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mozz , in US police use force on 300,000 people a year, with numbers rising since George Floyd: ‘relentless violence’
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Imma unpopular opinion

  1. How many uses of force are justified? Just the fact that they used force to arrest somebody doesn’t mean an atrocity. It could have been 300,000 armed rapists trying to carjack a mother of 3 to get away, or it could have been 300,000 peaceful Palestinian protestors. The relevant number to track is how many unjustified uses of force there were.
  2. Is it possible they’re tracking things better now? When the police document that force was used is HIGHLY dependent on their policies about what has to be documented, which I would suspect is highly correlated with time going by since 2020.
  3. “Use of force” and “injuring” are super broad. If they tackle somebody on the grass to arrest them, that’s a use of force. If they taze somebody causing cardiac arrest, that’s an “injury.”

They do dive a little bit into the details, but I think a lot of the details either undercut the headline narrative or are misleadingly presented. E.g.:

despite widespread protests against police brutality following the murder of George Floyd in 2020, overall use of force has remained steady since then – and in many jurisdictions, has increased.

Half of the agencies reported increases in overall force in the two-year period following Floyd’s murder, the report said.

So, basically, it hasn’t changed. And it went up in half and down in half. I mean it is fine if you want to present that result as an indictment of the claims of reform, but the way they wrote the “everything’s getting worse” headline out of that data is weird.

The most common use of force was stun guns, which are considered “less-lethal” but can also have deadly consequences; the organization tracked more than 20,000 stun gun deployments.

In 2022, the group also cataloged more than 8,000 incidents of chemicals being sprayed; more than 4,700 cases of people hit by weapons like batons and beanbags; and more than 2,100 cases of contacts with K9 dogs.

Sounds like, if those are the numbers out of 300,000, then by far the most common use of force (the remaining 264,200) was tackling / wrestling with a suspect. And then they decided to lead with the descriptions of more lurid uses of force that make up 1%-7% of the times that things happened. No?

Then at the very end the whole tone changes:

of the 757 agencies that disclosed types of force used over time, there were 973 neck restraint uses in 2019. By 2021, there were 112 of those cases, a nearly 90% drop.

Jurisdictions with DoJ reform agreements reported a 22% reduction in overall reported use of force, Mapping Police Violence found. And 13 out of 18 agencies that adopted state or federal reforms reported reductions in use of force.

Policies that reduce overall police encounters can be most effective at reducing injuries and killings by police, such as alternative responder programs dispatching mental health professionals to people in crisis, Sinyangwe said. He said he hoped his database would help officials, including a potential Kamala Harris administration, identify agencies in need of urgent intervention. And he hoped to see an expansion of initiatives shown to work.

See this sounds great. It’s like, some reforms are working and some are not (or just aren’t even being attempted in some places), let’s strategize how we can fix the existing and continuing problems. Let’s get a clear eye on what is happening and try to make things better.

If they had led with this, I would have no griping, but the whole headline and 2/3ds of the article is just feeding into the “OH MA GAWD THE POLICE ARE KILLING EVERYONE WON’T SOMEBODY STOP THEM”.

Bring on the downvotes 😃

prole ,

Bring on the downvotes 😃

If you insist…

barkingspiders ,

I think this is what the kids call “critical reading abilities”

Thanks for providing a strong counterpoint to the click bait narrative, here’s a prize 🏆

MediaBiasFactChecker Bot , in US Navy shipbuilder Austal USA agrees to pay $24 million to settle accounting fraud probe

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CptEnder , in Turns out Martin Shkreli copied his $2M Wu-Tang album—and sent it to “50 different chicks”

God be has an incredibly punchable face

JigglySackles , in Drivers Hate The Tech In Their Cars

And only automakers are surprised by this. This last time I bought a car, i avoided all the new ones and just got a reliable one from 2013. Fuuuuck all the tattletale noises, fuck all the touch screen interface bullshit, and fuck their ridiculous asking prices.

MediaBiasFactChecker Bot , in Montana doctor overprescribed meds and overbilled health care to pad his income, prosecutors say

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gencha , in Turns out Martin Shkreli copied his $2M Wu-Tang album—and sent it to “50 different chicks”

Sounds a lot more expensive than regular prostitutes

HubertManne , in Tennessee Republican leaders threaten to withhold funds as Memphis preps to put gun control measures on the ballot

and they have to publish something about how hunter biden did stuff with things.

xmunk , in Nebraska Reverts to 19th-Century Voting Restrictions, Clouding Rights for Thousands

I’ve had it up to here with these fucking activist judges who think they can unilaterally rewrite laws.

Labtec6 ,

True, but in this case, it was an AG’s opinion (that doesn’t hold legal weight) and another Republican who just use that as a legal argument to not do something that both parties agreed to. Even the previous Republican AG for Nebraska says this issue is stupid and LB 20 should go ahead.

21Cabbage ,

To me what’s most frustrating/disturbing isn’t that they think they can rewrite laws, people think they can cure diseases with rocks, but that in a lot of ways they effectively can.

Zombiepirate , in Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton raids Latino Democrats' homes, including those of LULAC members
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Paxton might be the biggest scumbag in Texas.

And that’s quite the achievement, since everything is bigger in Texas.

Fuckin’ one-star State.

Heikki ,

As someone who lives in TX, I can assure you there wouldn’t be any stars on the flag if the rating system allowed it.

Zombiepirate ,
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I live here too. I’m counting the days until I can move.

verdantbanana , in New Louisiana law that undoes mug shot restrictions can affect livelihoods, advocates say
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been an issue all over the US and is not being addressed

my local town does a magazine with just mugshots, and it is sold at gas stations

until the US removes the far right, police loving government officials and leaders this practice is likely to continue

wjrii , in Police in Washington city banned from personalizing equipment in settlement over shooting Black man

Good. Police are not the goddamned military. They have no excuse to be creating an “us vs them” mindset.

Symbols are rarely the MOST important thing in a specific incident, but from a broader perspective, they matter, and particularly for police, because they’re the living embodiment of government power and need to send exactly zero political messages (beyond whatever is unavoidable by their mere presence).

acosmichippo ,
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maybe we need to mandate a minimum 15 pieces of flair. let’s see who the whackos really are. looking at you, Brian.

HikingVet , in Report Exposes 'Systemic Abuse' at For-Profit Migrant Detention Centers in Louisiana

A “For Profit Migrant Detention Centre” is something out of a future dystopia that is on the brink of collapse and should not exist in this reality. So of course it pops up in the American South.

modifier ,

Yeah wow. Those 5 words say so so much about our nation, and none of it good.

callouscomic , in Residents in Boston suburb raised $20K after town officials shut down boy’s ice cream stand

Why did they shut it down? Perhaps due to laws and regulations? Perhaps due to laws and regulations put in place by the very people these residents elect?

Viking_Hippie , in Mexico puts relations with US and Canadian embassies 'on pause' for slamming judicial overhaul plan

having judges elected to office, something analysts, judges and international observers fear would stack courts with politically biased judges with little experience.

Well, judging by the US where the vast majority if not all judges are either elected or appointed by elected officials, it’s clearly a justified worry, what with all the incompetent and/or corrupt judges littering benches at all levels…

MediaBiasFactChecker Bot , in Israel kills another Palestinian journalist in Gaza

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