you wouldn’t want to explode those nukes underwater close to the Japanese or Korean shores, the explosion would create giant waves like never seen before, and could submerge half of japan in less than an hour.
When another pandemic comes- and it will come- that is far more contagious and far deadlier, what are these municipalities going to do when hospitals start filling up and residents start dropping dead?
They will blame some scapegoat for not doing enough or they will blame some scapegoat for doing it on purpose, they will never look at themselves and see the issue is them - same playbook we just watched happen.
And I guess we will just sit back and watch it happen, again. What is there to do? Try to teach these people science? Explain to them nicely herd immunity? They will never ever listen because that’s just who they are, conspiracy dumb dumb conservatives who think they know better because they looked into it i.e. some grifter on TV told them so.
Now the obvious solution might be to have the grifters in right wing media actually tell the truth about the matter, but this entire episode was already made political and we will be stuck with the fallout for probably generations.
I’m actually surprised they were paying what they pay. My nephew got hired to move carts around for $19 an hour. Sure, it’s part-time, but that’s a crazy starting wage for a big box store in Indiana.
Edit: Before you think I’m pro-Walmart, fuck Walmart. I hope every store closes down and the Waltons go bankrupt.
Edit 2: Also, minimum wage should be $21 an hour everywhere, so it’s only a crazy starting wage because Indiana is a fucked up red state.
Something was almost certainly fucked up with that kid before hand.
Well sure, but the chip still contributed to his death.
Like, if someone has a skull as thin as an eggshell and you—unknowing—slap that guy and he dies, you still killed him even if someone with a normal skull would’ve been fine.
Edit: The Snickers comparison is a much better one, thank you. I rescind my point.
The product in question in principle is safe and was used as intended. That the kid died from it, has nothing to do with the product itself. Snicker’s wouldn’t be pulled, if someone with unknown peanut allergy died from eating one.
The One Chip isn’t dangerous due to allergens per se, but compounds which can have a strong effect on people’s internal biology the same way a pharmaceutical would especially in the concentrations they’re using to get the super spicy outcome. Regardless of whether the kid had a preexisting condition if the chip’s affect on his body caused changes which contributed to his death then there could be others out there who would have similar complications and as the product continues to gain popularity there is increasing liklihood of such things happening.
These things aren’t tested for safety in any way. Hell, a 14 year old was able to get ahold of the product with presumably no issues.
Paqui is being safe by recalling the product, and hopefully we can get to the bottom of this before anyone else is hurt.
Yeah I suppose that statement was a little broader than it needed to be. Since you can’t seem to pick up on context clues, I’ll spell it out for you: the FDA is not going to put every single food product to market through rigorous testing like you would for a pharmaceutical (nor should they). They are going to weigh in on the overall safety of the ingredients used and that the product is generally safe.
They aren’t going to evaluate whether there are potential harms or comorbodities for every single slice of the population, which could lead to complications for products like the One Chip which have high concentrations of potentially harmful compounds.
With something like hot sauce you can point to the serving size as a safety factor, but the chip is meant to be eaten all at once.
Again, Paqui is being safe by recalling the product until more information is available.
I think they should follow suit with some of the other extremely spicey foods. A retailer that I used to go to made you sign a waver and required that you prove that you were at least a certain age to buy it. Part of getting the waiver to sign was being told what it can do.
I didn’t buy the hot sauce myself, but the staff explained that it could legitimately burn your skin if you left it on for too long. I wish I remember what the sauce was called.
I was shocked at the time that you had to sign a waver to buy hot sauce. It was a weird concept to me. Incidents like this must be why. It makes sense, now that I think about it.
This. There’s no known mechanism by which oral capsaicin can kill someone, and millions of these chips have been sold and eaten without incident. They’ve been on the market for 7 years. You’ll notice even the article is careful to say that the chip “was implicated in” his death, or that “his mother believes the chip caused his death”, but no one will actually say the chip killed him. This is because they don’t know what happened at all. It makes sense to pull it from the shelf and I’m glad they did that while they figure out what happened, but unbeknownst to me everyone on Lemmy is a post hoc pathologist because we’re all talking like we know for sure the chip killed the kid. Sometimes life is too complicated for common sense, you know?
Devils advocate: at least in the US they need to get rid of the thing that says sleeping in your car in the parking lot of the bar is a DUI.
That's literally a person doing the responsoble thing but the pigs can't help but salivate over the easy DUI they can add to their "not-a-quota".
It encourages people to drive drunk when they might have slept it off in the car because there's a chance you get away with it, whereas sleeping in the car at the bar is a guaranteed DUI.
I guess the drunk driver has done a lot of driving in a country where they drive on the other side of the road, which would explain why they got confused when drunk.
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