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Dagwood222 ,

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I started reading Neal Stephenson’s book ‘Anathem.’ Threw it down after twenty pages, because it was just ridiculous. A few months later someone told me to stick with it, the plot really starts coming together around page 200.

Yes, I read it, and yes, it takes 200 pages to start making sense.

PsychedSy ,

Am I misremembering or does it have a lot of made up terms?

Dagwood222 ,

I always describe Stephenson this way; some college professors will just answer your question; some will tell you what page of the book to read; some will answer the question in Latin, making a pun. Stephenson loves his little enigmas.

zanzibar ,

This image is fucking with me because the way it’s drawn reminds me a lot of Family Guy, and Family Guy is one of those rare cases where this concept is inverted and the show starts going to shit after season 3.

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

The first few seasons were so good.

ThisGuysNeverSerious ,

Just wait until you get to season 107, it will really pick up!

ultrasquid ,

Me recommending Amphibia (it has like 3 good episodes)

Mr_Fish ,

Clone wars be like

chk232 ,

I really don’t get the hate for friends. It’s just a tv show with funny bits here and there.

MammyWhammy ,

It’s exactly what a sitcom is supposed to be. Light watching that’s generally funny. Also if you miss an episode or two here and there it’s easy enough to pick up what’s going on.

ThisGuysNeverSerious ,

I love shows like that, after a long day of mentally draining work. I don’t want to think, I just want to drink a beer and zone out. Even though I’m still thinking about work lol

MonsiuerPatEBrown ,

American TV seasons are really a commericalized Stockholm syndrome, innit ?

Zoboomafoo ,
@Zoboomafoo@yiffit.net avatar

At least American episodes come out more than once a decade

SneakyWeasel ,

Honestly my biggest blunder of this was telling my boyfriend we watch Miraculous Ladybug and that it gets really good in season 5. I honestly lucked out that we both found it a riot from start to end, it’s now one of our favorite shows.

DavidGA , (edited )
@DavidGA@lemmy.world avatar

Star Trek TNG.

It’s literally Season 3, too.

Annoyingly, there are one or two really good episodes in Seasons 1 and 2. But the majority are total crap.

Ubermeisters ,

I guess I really just love the show then haha

nevial ,
@nevial@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I literally just started with season 3 (for the first time) and I loved most of season 1 and 2

DavidGA ,
@DavidGA@lemmy.world avatar

You won’t believe how much better it gets!

Kahlenar ,

TNG, DS9, and VOY really.

I feel like this comic should be letting in people who convinced others to stick with DS9.

Blackmist ,

Yeah, but the thing with the old shows is you can just skip ahead. It was all made for an age where everything was self contained. The most you’d get was a two-part episode.

Now it’s all made for the Netflix binge generation, where every new episodes assumes you’ve seen all the previous ones. I mean, there’s nothing inherently wrong with that, and it gave us great shows like The Wire and Breaking Bad, but it does mean they need to get their shit together immediately, and not have several seasons of shit before they find the story they actually wanted to tell.

flop_leash_973 , (edited )

Shit, if a show doesn’t interest me after 30 minutes I’m done with it. If the story only gets interesting after the forced exposition dump part of the script, then the script needed more work before they filmed it. In my opinion anyway.

BananaPeal ,
@BananaPeal@sh.itjust.works avatar

This is season 1 of Parks and Recreation. It didn’t really start to get it’s footing until season 2. I’m glad I stuck with it, so many great characters!

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, S1 was trying to be the office too much. The camera shots and everyone’s delivery was just off a bit.

chiliedogg ,

And I don’t think it really landed until season 3 with the cast change.

I like that after Mark leaves, he’s never even mentioned in passing again.

MrVilliam ,

Even then, you could skip half or more of season 1. I can’t remember which to skip, but there’s advice online somewhere I’m sure.

Sigh_Bafanada ,

Yeah, on rewatch I generally start at season 2. Same with The Office (US). Both shows are phenomenal, but they take a while to find their footing.

However, I’d certainly argue that even on first viewing, the first seasons can be skipped. You might miss a bit of backstory, but you’d be able to understand most things perfectly fine.

hh93 ,

felt the same with What we do in the Shadows

I think a lot of those kind of shows just need to get to know the characters better and see what works and what doesn’t in the first season and then improve on that when viewers also have a better understanding of that

ThisGuysNeverSerious ,

Your mom is a great character.

Shurf116 ,

Yep, went the same route myself. I’m looking at you, Critical Role campaign 1 👀

But for others I always recommend start with the 3rd now.

hellishharlot ,

I’m your worst nightmare. I refuse to get to s2 or s3 until I finish the dredge that is s1 because I’m of the belief that CR is only good because the people who watch it went through s1 first

Shurf116 ,

Ooooh I respect that. You have a lot of patience xD I’m trying to finish 1 rn btw. Only watched a couple of episodes of 2 and 3 to check out and decided to leave it for later as well as you. To get a more full picture I guess…

SneakyWeasel ,

Me with Bojack. I straight up tell most folks to skip the first 5 episodes and start with 1-6. The jump in quality the show does when it gets to “The Telescope” is staggering, it doesn’t feel like the same show.

Sharkwellington ,

The first few episodes of Bojack were super rough. I think I had a friend that loved the first few episodes and fell off as the show went on.

Chilly ,

Guess I need to give it another shot lol

reev ,

I mention Bojack to pretty much everyone I care about. I am just worried there’s someone out there that could love the show as much as me and just doesn’t get the chance to.

big_slap ,

let me start on episode 6 and get back to you.

Gort ,
@Gort@lemmy.world avatar

Well, yeah, I get that, even if I don’t find those episodes bad myself, but I do think episode two, Bojack Hates the Troops, is a really good satirical episode that shouldn’t be missed.

SneakyWeasel ,

Ok, yeah, my partner loves the Mc Neal Seal puns, and even when we were watching it he was like “season one is supposed to be the bad one? Jesus the show is good then”

Dee ,
@Dee@lemmings.world avatar

This is Picard for me. I thought season one was alright, season two was hot garbage, but season three is what star trek fans had been waiting for all these years. Perfect conclusion, but boy was it rough getting there lol

DontRedditMyLemmy ,

I agree with your take on the first two, but s3 was so gratuitous I could barely stand it. A reunion episode would have been fine, but they didn’t do the story justice.

SpaceCowboy ,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

Yeah they completely lost me with the ending of S1 and I gave up on the show.

But RLM said S3 was actually good, so I watched it. Completely skipped S2. Nothing of value was lost. I guess Raffi and Seven are in a relationship? I think that’s the only thing that happened in S2 that carried over.

I think I’d have liked S3 more if I was a big TNG fan. But as it was, it was basically the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy, just that it brought back a beloved character rather than killing off a beloved character in the middle part of the story. Which of course made it so much better. But still, it’s basically the same kind of thing. It was fine. A good ending for the TNG crew.

I hope the Legacy thing can happen, I want to see how things are going on DS9 because that’s my Star Trek.

Dee ,
@Dee@lemmings.world avatar

Totally agree, and yeah DS9 is my favorite trek as well (I’m actually watching it as I type this on my phone lol) so would love a revisit to the promenade.

But Picard season three was what I think TNG needed for a good wrap-up. It didn’t blow me away but the final scene of the last episode was perfect for me.

Zoboomafoo ,
@Zoboomafoo@yiffit.net avatar

RLM didn’t like Strange New Worlds, I couldn’t take their Picard S3 recommendation

HawlSera ,

That’s how Andor fans talk to me

DontRedditMyLemmy ,

But, there’s only one season? And its all fire!

HawlSera ,

It’s literally, one of hte most boring things I’ve ever seen in my life… but the fans keep gaslighting me, trying to tell me I “Just don’t get it” or am “Too simple to enjoy something without pew pew”

I like plenty of things without pew pew, Andor just isn’t one of them.

The prison arc is decent, but it didn’t save the show for me and was not worth the god awful heist arc.

ryathal ,

Andor is good, but a lot of people treat it as amazing because everything else in Disney Star Wars has been garbage. Cassian is by far the most boring part of his own show.

If watching some Andor scenes is the cost of a Luthen vs the ISB plot I’m willing to keep watching.

HawlSera ,

Obi-Wan was unironically better than Andor though, I will give you that Book of Boba Fett was a complete middlefinger to the audience.

Andor however doesn’t even feel like it belongs in the same universe as Star Wars until the prison arc when they remember Storm Troopers exist and stop having “Imperial Soldiers in Imperial Uniforms”

I find Secret Wars to be a great show and a more successful version of what Andor was trying to accomplish. The fact that a show as boring as Andor is loved, but Secret Wars is written off as trash, is… honestly baffling to me.

I will grant that if Andor was cut out of Andor, and we focused more on Mon Mothma, it would be a lot better, and actually be this “Political Intrigue” show that people bill it to be.

Yes show, I get it “Empire Bad”, you don’t need to keep reiterating this point. Tell an actual story please.

DontRedditMyLemmy ,

Everyone is entitled to an opinion… except you now. J/k

I really liked the “origin story” character development without any superpowers. But I also liked Secret Invasion for the exact same reasons.

ElPussyKangaroo ,

One Piece fans lmao.

Uli ,

This week’s episode is actually really good. You just have to watch the other 1071 episodes first and I swear you’ll like it.

andrew ,
@andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun avatar

I think that’s just called Stockholm Syndrome.

captainlezbian ,

Just spend a month’s free time doing nothing but reading manga and you’ll be fine. Wait shit that was how long it took 8 years ago when I was last caught up

Laticauda ,

I can’t deny this lol. Sometimes you like it from the start, but the start is very corny since it was made in the 90s, so it doesn’t grab everyone right away, but it matures really well over time and becomes more timeless. But even then I have to admit it can be an acquired taste with its cartoony style and wacky characters/world.

devfuuu ,

It’s a typical shounen with all it’s troupes and cringy narrative. The start shouldn’t shock people. It actually manages to grab people quickly enough compared to other shounens at their beginning.

Over the years the story matures and develops accompanying their audience. The beginning was for teens and now it still has the same fans and followers that are in their thirties.

It’s hard for shows that are so long lived to maintain their engagement.

DrQuint ,

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    MrBusinessII ,

    You’re right and wrong, but the way you said it makes me think no one likes talking to you or much less holding a conversation with you. Which is why that’s all I’ll say.

    Shush ,

    I’m not really sure why it’s such a bad thing. The fact that they’re there and alive doesn’t necessarily detract from the story. They interact with so many other characters that get a lot of screen time compared to the main crew, and those characters eventually leave or die. And it’s fine. I’m not looking for the crew members to die and be replaced.

    Laticauda ,

    Tf are you doing trying to critique a show you’ve never watched or read based on random video game versions of them, neither of which are accurately placed in any part of the canon timeline and are just for fun. That’s the stupidest shit I’ve ever heard. That’s like judging a series based on nothing but the McDonald’s happy meal toys based on them. There’s so much wrong with what you said I’m not even gonna bother trying to address it seriously.

    DrQuint ,

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    Laticauda ,

    I think what you’re smelling is your own farts my dude. Nobody’s forcing you to watch it, in fact I’m glad you won’t.

    Shush ,

    It’s unfortunate that it is true. No going around it - the first 25 or so episodes are cartoonish and the old drawing style kept a lot of people away. I tried to convince people to stick with it but most of my friends left it around episode 2 or 3.

    It’s also evident that it is perceived as a dumb teens series since producers brought it to TV to a channel named 4Kids. And then they quickly realized by the second batch of episodes that kids definitely shouldn’t watch that.

    Phen ,

    That’s why I’m hoping the live action becomes a success. One piece has a lot of amazing things, but the anime adaptation is just shat out of someone’s ass every week. I can’t recommend that to anyone.

    If Netflix is successful in recreating the one piece experience - and so far it looks like they are - I’ll finally have something to show people why I like this story so much.

    eupraxia ,
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    My GF loves One Piece, she started me at just one episode quite a ways in - the one with Bink’s Sake - basically just to say “hey look, this story is actually going somewhere”. Then we started at like episode 60 or so and kept watching from there - it’s definitely a lot rougher, but I’m hooked enough now to watch it with her!

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