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Omega_Haxors ,

Matpat gone? Good fucking riddance. Fascist piece of shit.

KingThrillgore ,

We are living in a future Hypnospace Outlaw sequel right now

but that’s just a theory

Facebones ,

Cries in AOL chat rooms

spudwart ,

The past few months to a year or so we’ve seen a total restructure of the internet. Reddit, Twitter, Facebook and YouTube have been actively scaring away their user bases.

It’s resulting in a split and divided internet. Like the days of old. Fediverse ActivityPub integration is the only thing that can undo that and revive these all-in-one style communications platforms.

I’m curious to see if it will be better or worse.

ZWho63 OP ,

I beg to differ. If there’s one thing, even though I only got properly into the Internet around 2020, I have heard about how old social media was FAR better for the internet in general than stuff like Youtube and Twitter from people like Kurzgesagt; it allowed for more IRL-like social interaction through the segregation of communities into different ‘cliques’, kind of what Reddit and Lemmy are trying to capture. As a consequence, there was far less open and widespread drama, random hate and misinformation, unlike today.

doctorcrimson ,

Also a format change for Joel Haver: no more weeklies.

PeriodicallyPedantic ,

Nobody mentioning Jenna Marbles?!?!

Computerchairgeneral ,

Seeing MatPat being called the old internet is...something all right. Almost as disorienting as seeing all the "Who?" reactions to the news. I guess it isn't that surprising given how huge Youtube is. I'm sure there are plenty of giant channels I've never heard of. That being said I'm curious to see if any more "old-school" youtubers decide to retire over the next year.

conorab ,

Will be sad to see him go. I always loved the content as it was engaging, but ultimately of no consequence. When I watch anything to do with news or politics theres the risk of believing what the channel says only for it to be wrong and having your whole world view questioned. Game Theory was just… fun.

GrayBackgroundMusic ,

This is how I find out matpat is retiring?!

conorab ,

Likewise! Figured the post was wrong and they were referring to when he sold Game Theorists, but nope! youtu.be/8R1_TqU68yo?feature=shared

EightLeggedFreak ,

Right?!

MrFunnyMoustache ,

No idea who Matpat is, but I will miss Tom Scott’s stuff… also The Canipa Effect announced he is quitting YouTube after 10 years of producing content.

semperverus ,
@semperverus@lemmy.world avatar

Who is this Tom Scott guy? I know MattPat as a legend but Tom is a literal-who to me.

MrFunnyMoustache ,

British guy who has gotten famous on YouTube… Pretty all over the place, he made videos about linguistics, computer science, trains, hovercrafts, historical bouncing bridge, and sent garlic bread to space, played a 5000 year old board game, earthquake testing machines, a float-through McDonald’s, Shakespeare, giant centrifuge, and more.

Adi2121 ,

The general reaction to this post being “Who’s Matpat?” is super interesting to me. And the comments saying that Tom Scott and Matpat aren’t old are also interesting since they follow the trend in Lemmy of the average age being a lot older than any other social network. I’m Gen Z and primarily consume content via a very Zoomer-heavy platform, YouTube, and the only other social network I have is Lemmy, which I’d say is very millennial-dominated. Which is why I stayed on Lemmy when I first got on here in June, since I liked the difference in opinion on the same topics on Lemmy and YouTube. Nothing related to the post, just something I’ve noticed for a while but never shared.

Caboose12000 ,

as a fellow zoomer I can verify that Lemmy is unique in that you and me as zoomers seem to be a minority here

TimeSquirrel ,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

This place is a lot like what the older Internet from the 80s and 90s was like, just a bunch of disjointed seperate individually run forums and communities run by passionate individuals in a world of digital anarchy where you can find something new every day. One minute you're downloading guitar tabs handwritten by some random metal fan, to reading about some guy named Steve's tribute website to his pet dog the next.

I think that's what draws us in and keeps us here for the older folks.

SimplyATable ,

Same here, it’s a lot more chill of a place at least

Ephera ,

I feel like people not knowing this Matpat person may also just be a case of the channel being called “The Game Theorists”.

I have seen videos of that channel suggested, but never clicked on any, because it looked like typical content mill stuff to me. If you don’t watch any videos, you’ll only ever read “The Game Theorists”…

chuckleslord ,

YouTube is zoomer heavy. I know that’s true, but I like to believe that I, a millennial, am still welcome there.

MBM ,

Honestly I just consider “old internet” to be before I was even born

BudgetBandit ,

The „old internet“ imho is before the few social media sites swallowed all the small forums we had

PsychedSy ,

I’ve got accounts older than my niece and she’ll be 16 in a month.

XeroxCool ,

I remember YouTube being millennial dominated. I wonder if it’s just a phase before realizing you’re throwing comments into the void and by being a central social site that still allows anonymity, it just invokes trolls - like xitter.

Wait till you find out YouTube isn’t that old and came about because some horny dudes couldn’t find the video of Janet Jackson’s boob. I mean, 18 is ancient for the internet and other tech, but I’d say it goes beyond just being a website with its social prevalence.

Maven ,
@Maven@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

To be fair, I didn’t know his handle was MatPat, because I only knew about him as “the Game Theory guy I stopped watching almost ten years ago”. If you told me Game Theory was quitting the internet , I would know who you meant.

TimeSquirrel ,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

The public internet has been around about three times longer than what you're calling "old".

Geocities, Angelfire, and dialup modems are the "old" internet.

DaleGribble88 ,
@DaleGribble88@programming.dev avatar

BBS’s would like a word

dadarobot ,
@dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I think bbs is considered pre-internet. Or maybe alternate and separate to the internet since you would dial directly to them. To my understanding internet didnt really have public access until the late 80’s/early 90s.

Im 38 so i wasnt really there, just my understanding

billwashere ,

No kidding. Wardialing with my C64 and a 300 baud modem was the shit in the mid 80s.

billwashere ,

I used ftp, Archie, and gopher in college. I even had a paper book called “The Internet Yellow Pages” before search engines were a thing.

Globulart ,

I miss IRC

jawa21 ,

IRC is still very much around.

Globulart ,

Not in the way it used to be though. I guess what I really miss is finding matches for counterstrike and stuff using IRC, it felt properly community based instead of designed to extract maximum money.

altima_neo ,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

The old Internet died when Reddit became “the front page of the Internet”

altima_neo ,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

Meanwhile the Angry Video Game Nerd won’t retire when he really should.

TheDarksteel94 ,

Why is that? Haven’t watched him in a while.

ZWho63 OP ,

From what I’ve heard on the grapevine (I also don’t watch his stuff), his channel really declined in quality past 2019, and it just hasn’t been the same.

ltxrtquq ,

If the 4 hour long hbomberguy video is to be believed, the Angry Video Game Nerd channel (?) got bought by a company that turned it into something of a content mill. And there’s some plagiarism involved.

altima_neo ,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

He signed up with one of those media management companies to help him promote and produce content. He mostly did it because he wanted to spend more time with his family, because he’s not really a gamer and has been running out of games he played as a kid, and because he’s kind of inept, to be honest. He made a behind the scenes video that showed just how ramshackle his workflow is.

Anyway, once he got that company involved, they injected themselves into his videos as well as write and edit,nand everyone was wondering who “these fat slobs” were? They just appeared with no introduction. The quality of his content took a nosedive around this time. They also started adding all sorts of new content, like rental reviews and podcasts that all died out very quickly due to lack of interest (and because they were mostly centered around the slobs rather than James). You could also tell James wasn’t very interested in any of it.

Anyway there’s more to it, but that’s the big stuff.

snowe ,
@snowe@programming.dev avatar

Never even heard of matpat and I’ve been using YouTube since 2006

TheDarksteel94 ,

What, you’ve never heard of the “game theory guy”?

fjordbasa ,

Not OP but I’ve never heard of that channel either, surprised that YouTube has never recommended it to me despite watching mostly tech and gaming videos

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

Question: are you over the age of 12? In which case, you’re outside of the demographic for MatPat videos

fjordbasa ,

Physically? Yes. Maturity-wise? The jury’s out…

rwhitisissle ,

I always knew him as the guy that copied reddit and tvtropes forum posts and put them into youtube videos while providing no credit to the original people that came up with them.

Rusty ,

John von Neumann?

rwhitisissle ,

You’ve missed out on literally nothing.

BudgetBandit ,

Well it was good in the beginning. I stopped watching when he started uploading FNAF. Back then YouTube was fun as a young gamer: A+Start, Scykoh, the CrazyRussianHacker, animated Minecraft Music Videos to name a few.

Omega_Haxors ,

He was never good, you were just younger and more susceptible to his manipulation.

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