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deegeese , in tell the US to stop supplying bombs to China!!!

WTF is this even?

DAMunzy ,

Tankie humor.

culprit OP ,
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35000+ dead civilians is a joke to you?

SaltyIceteaMaker , (edited )

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  • culprit OP ,
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    international rules based order crumbling like a stale cookie, now that’s a joke

    botorfj ,
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    bro cooked 🔥

    PotatoesFall ,

    that’s not what your meme is about. Your meme is utilizing Palestinian deaths to make some tankie point about China great because West bad. Which is deeply disrespectful to the 35,000.

    culprit OP ,
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    Calling out how the West wants to call one thing a genocide that is clearly not, while also saying something is definitely not a genocide when it clearly is, that’s called pointing out hypocrisy.

    The world can see it. That’s why there is so much green on the 2nd map.

    PotatoesFall ,

    Okay fair point, there’s definitely hypocrisy (although from my information there is definitely some ethnic cleansing going on in xinjiang). Got a different vibe from the meme initially though

    davel ,
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    There is not ethnic cleansing going on, as I expounded on upthread.

    PotatoesFall ,

    okay well Western media isn’t talking about it. I exclusively hear about this on lemmy from folks simping for China.

    Fuck all empires, fuck the US, fuck China, fuck Russia. All have shitty to broken democracies and way too much centralized power.

    What’s the point of constantly defending China? If it was just a one time thing that’s fine, but it happens nonstop around these parts.

    No need to simp for China to be a communist

    davel ,
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    Of course Western media aren’t talking about it: it’s their job not to. They’re the ones pushing the “Uyghur genocide” narrative in the first place. Western media are the media of the capitalist class of the imperial core. The cold war(s)[1][2] and red scare(s)[1][2][3][4] never ended.

    .
    Your understanding of China is received wisdom from the imperial core’s governments, think tanks, and corporate media, so your criticisms of it are not reality-based. It’s fine to criticize anything & anyone—China included—but https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Library:Oppose_Book_Worship#I._No_Investigation,_No_Right_to_Speak.

    Also, all this “simping” framing is tiresome. Historical materialists don’t subscribe to . We’re not known for simping, liberals are.

    DAMunzy ,

    What is happening to the Uyghurs is considered a genocide because China is moving in Han Chinese into the region, suppressing the religion, political indoctrination, forced sterilization, forced contraception, and forced abortion. No, they are not being bombed but they are being wiped out a different way.

    culprit OP ,
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    Are you Adrian Zenz or just a ‘state dept leftist’?

    DAMunzy ,

    Not a fan of him because he’s anti-communist but a critic of him still said China is running “internment camps in Xinjiang as part of the “preventive measures against extremism””.

    Further info from Wikipedia:

    Zenz’s research is primarily based on publicly available documents and social media publications by Chinese authorities and local governments that originate directly from the Chinese state, and his research remains “scientifically tenable”, even if it is “instrumentalised by the US government for its harsh anti-China policy”.

    Tenable means capable of being defended or maintained.

    He doesn’t sound like someone I would want to be around but that doesn’t mean he is wrong.

    davel , (edited )
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    That is what we are told by our government & think tanks & corporate media. It’s a load of doo-doo.

    The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing terrorist cells in Xinjiang, and once those efforts failed, it concocted and promoted a genocide narrative. Antony Blinken is still pushing this slop, just last month.

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    The blueprint of regime change operations

    We see here for example the evolution of public opinion in regards to China. In 2019, the ‘Uyghur genocide’ was broken by the media (Buzzfeed, of all outlets). In this story, we saw the machine I described up until now move in real time. Suddenly, newspapers, TV, websites were all flooded with stories about the ‘genocide’, all day, every day. People whom we’d never heard of before were brought in as experts — Adrian Zenz, to name just one; a man who does not even speak a word of Chinese.

    Organizations were suddenly becoming very active and important. The World Uyghur Congress, a very serious-sounding NGO, is actually an NED Front operating out of Germany […]. From their official website, they declare themselves to be the sole legitimate representative of all Uyghurs — presumably not having asked Uyghurs in Xinjiang what they thought about that.

    The WUC also has ties to the Grey Wolves, a fascist paramilitary group in Turkey, through the father of their founder, Isa Yusuf Alptekin.

    Documents came out from NGOs to further legitimize the media reporting. This is how a report from the very professional-sounding China Human Rights Defenders (CHRD) came to exist. They claimed ‘up to 1.3 million’ Uyghurs were imprisoned in camps. What they didn’t say was how they got this number: they interviewed a total of 10 people from rural Xinjiang and asked them to estimate how many people might have been taken away. They then extrapolated the guesstimates they got and arrived at the 1.3 million figure.

    Sanctions were enacted against China — Xinjiang cotton for example had trouble finding buyers after Western companies were pressured into boycotting it. Instead of helping fight against the purported genocide, this act actually made life more difficult for the people of Xinjiang who depend on this trade for their livelihood (as we all do depend on our skills to make a livelihood).

    Any attempt China made to defend itself was met with more suspicion. They invited a UN delegation which was blocked by the US. The delegation eventually made it there, but three years later. The Arab League also visited Xinjiang and actually commended China on their policies — aimed at reducing terrorism through education and social integration, not through bombing like we tend to do in the West.

    As part of China’s affirmative action policies, the Uyghurs and other ethic minorities were excepted from the One-Child policy, and in Xinjiang they have grown in numbers relative to Hans as a result, and this happened similarly with other ethnic minorities in China.

    MissJinx , in 3000 hours of EU4 later I can recreate a map from 1444.... Then this... sin
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    saltesc , in 3000 hours of EU4 later I can recreate a map from 1444.... Then this... sin

    Maybe they think it’s in Middle-East. I’ve seen people think Portugal—Spain too—is in South America.

    linkhidalgogato ,

    Well Anatolia is basically Arabia and Greeks and Turks are basically the same people despite what both would say therefore Greece is probably kinda in the middle east.

    CarbonIceDragon , in 3000 hours of EU4 later I can recreate a map from 1444.... Then this... sin
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    1442? surprised its not 1444

    OttoVonNoob OP ,

    Damn… my bad… Eu5 news got me all sorts of messed up xD…

    Sam_Bass , in hippies unite... HEYOOO!

    I just want one

    jaybone , in hippies unite... HEYOOO!

    Buggies gonna tank.

    Tankies gonna bug.

    zarathustrad , in Just a few specs of rust

    You like the El Camino?

    Then you will love the Duo Camino.

    rando895 , in it's why I'm here

    In terms of ROI this is genius

    goferking0 , in favoring meme, please
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    Sam_Bass , in hippies unite... HEYOOO!

    Could use a sweet ride like that out here in my newly minted swamplands

    TheCheddarCheese , in The fuk? Please help me complete this insane captcha
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    There is an automatic captcha solver that works off of the audio prompt, not sure what it’s called though

    Midnight1938 , in favoring meme, please

    Vacancy

    This post has certainly been a huge success

    catfooddispenser , in favoring meme, please
    Classy , in favoring meme, please
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