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solidsnake2085 , in Astonishing
@solidsnake2085@lemmy.world avatar

Are memes just straight screenshots of Twitter now?

Grayox ,
@Grayox@lemmy.ml avatar

I mean I’ll be the first to admit agenda posting, but at least I be posting memes…

Sotuanduso ,

Agenda posting? What is this, PCM?

mp3 , in It'll hopefully be a keyboard and mouse for me
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

Arthritis has entered the game

ganove ,

Please no.

Kahlenar ,

Probably have games that watch your eye movements and track biological changes your body feels when you want to pick something. Maybe

atri ,

When my reaction time goes I switch to civ.

olicvb ,
@olicvb@lemmy.ca avatar

by the time i retire i’m hoping we perfect brain interfaces (which looking at what we currently have isn’t too far-fetched)

mp3 ,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

Or that medecine advances enough to solve these diseases and make our late days a bit more comfortable.

KirbyProton ,

And it sucks. Already got RSI and sadly isn’t anything that helps beyond resting…

GnomeKat , in Twitter, Reddit, Unity, Blizzard... who else?
@GnomeKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Companies can no longer continue to grow through innovating their products or services. Companies are no longer competing in that domain because they have already conquered it completely.

Companies can no longer grow through marketing and branding. Branding is everything and everywhere now, even normal people have personal brands, they have already conquered that domain and most people have grown to disdain marketing and branding so its less effective than ever.

Companies can no longer grow through data collection and advertising. All data is collected, ads are everywhere and they are always listening to everything we say and do. They have already conquered that domain.

Now all that’s left is competition through exploitation. It’s the only way companies can continue to grow. That is the stage of capitalism we are entering.

darkfyre ,

Also, for a long time back until this year, money used to be close to free. Now interest is way up and suddenly companies are forced with the prospect of needing more revenue.

dunestorm ,
@dunestorm@lemmy.world avatar

Continued unlimited growth turns out to be not sustainable…

Potatos_are_not_friends , in Based on a true story

What greater freedom is there than the ability to buy a small army’s worth of guns and ammo, to use as a backdrop to explain how you need to defend your rights from a imaginary monster, while actual monsters use those guns to kill children… nearly every single day, with school shootings nearing every other week. (About 30 of them this year!

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Have you considered stopping the monsters before they’re monsters by fixing poverty and jingoism, instead of just deciding you’re going to babble mindlessly about taking away the human right to self defense?

Like that would even be possible in a nation with more guns than people?

rtxn ,

Thirty to fifty wild hogs are cursing your name right now.

Facebones ,

I don’t normally get too engrossed in meme culture, but hotdamn was I all in on that one.

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

Freedom also means that we blame poor people on being poor. And if they have cancer, that’s their fault for being poor.

Never_Sm1le ,
@Never_Sm1le@lemdro.id avatar

Lol fixing those two things in the US are even harder than controlling guns

DragonTypeWyvern , (edited )

I don’t tend to consider “it’s hard” to be a reason to take a lesser and more dangerous path.

Never_Sm1le ,
@Never_Sm1le@lemdro.id avatar

I can see US passing laws restrict guns before passing any kind of law to alleviate poverty though.

cynetri ,
@cynetri@midwest.social avatar

Technically yes, because half of all privately owned guns in the US are owned by 3% of people according to this CNN article. So while there are more guns than people in the US, legislation to regulate them would mostly affect a minority of the population.

That being said, you’re right that a lot of the problem with gun violence has to do with external factors such as poverty and extreme nationalism. An overwhelming majority of mass shooters are male and less overwhelmingly white which hints at a problem more to do with the environments they are raised or live in. If the problem was stricly gun access, we should expect more mass shootings to have been committed by women. In addition, half of all mass shootings in the US have occured since 2000, a third of which since 2010.

The rise of mass shootings seem to coincide with the rise of more general nationalist violence moreso than increased gun access, however more guns are being manufactured now than ever. I think the problem that needs addressed more is the public perception and marketing around guns and gun culture, because the past couple decades have seen people own guns more for the “tough guy” fake masculinity reasons rather than actual practicality. For further evidence to back myself up, pickup truck sales have risen in a similar way. Pickup trucks are marketed in almost the same way minus the whole potentially killing people part, not that they haven’t also been used in mass violence though.

A lot of gun regulation tends to target poor people too, intentionally or not. Tax stamps, fees and mandatory wait times assume someone has the money and ability to take time off to acquire a gun, and wealthy people (the ones who already own most guns) have both. Making it harder for poor people, who are disproportionately black, to arm themselves in a time where racist violence is hitting record highs and stories about police brutality hit front pages every week at least, is unfair.

AlgeriaWorblebot ,

I wonder what gun ownership would look like in 20 or 30 years if right now were enacted (and not thereafter repealed) a countrywide prohibition on advertising of guns & ammo, and on showing any firearms before the watershed and at any time in G- and PG-rated media.

Putting aside the reality that this could never happen because of frozen peaches and strawmen on slippery slopes, I strongly suspect it would do a lot to curb the fetishisation of firearms.

Mr_Blott ,

Often see that statistic about half of all guns being owned by 3% of people

It’s only used to gloss over the fact that nearly half of all households in the US own a firearm

That’s fuckin insane

Facebones ,

I literally had somebody argue that we can’t have gun laws because some people have 20+ hubs cause they’re “collectors” (emphasis mine of course)

I’m sure the fact that they’ve stockpiled ammo for all of them is completely unrelated.

Lord_McAlister , in Twitter, Reddit, Unity, Blizzard... who else?

Netflix.

radioactiveradio ,

The streaming industry has been slowly burning down for a while now. I see more and more people pirating than buying another subscription for another fucking streaming platform that has like one good show to watch.

obinice , in sToP pOsTiNg pOliTicAl mEmEs!!!
@obinice@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t mind political memes, we’re adults and politics plays an important part of our lives, satire on politics is a welcome part of life, BUT… why must they all be foreign memes from the Americas?

We should have a mix of political memes from all around the globe! Gods knows, Sunak or Braverman are deserving of memery… :-P

I’m not smort enough to make memes :-(

BolexForSoup ,
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

Because y’all aren’t making other memes lol

Well except the Germans. I see a lot of German memes on Kbin lol

flicker ,

Honestly the Germans have been killing it with content creation.

ekky43 ,

Considering that the Germans still upload the memes using fax, it’s impressive that they are the biggest and loudest meme creators here in Europe.

BolexForSoup ,
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

I don’t understand a lick of German, but I probably look at 50% of the stuff they put up. It’s interesting seeing memes from other cultures.

BarrelAgedBoredom ,

I have half a mind to learn German just so I can more easily understand the memes lol

DrPop ,

I just wish I could read. Do the comments translate?

BolexForSoup ,
@BolexForSoup@kbin.social avatar

Honestly, I just enjoy looking at the images and looking for patterns. It’s not like I sit there doing it for hours. If I see one that looks like it could be funny, I’ll look at it for 20 or 30 seconds and see what I can divine lol

All of this is to say I don’t translate anything and often have literally no idea what is being said

MajorHavoc ,

why must they all be foreign memes from the Americas?

We have the best memes. We are a meme force to be reckoned with.

Also, we’re desperate for some mirth to lighten the burden of how horrible some of our politicians are.

GrimSheeper ,

Y’know I’m a patriot and all, but I wish we didn’t spend so much of our national budget on the Meme Force. Let’s stop shipping our memes overseas and start meming in our local communities

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

We could fund universal healthcare and free university for every American if we cut out Meme Force budget by just 10%, but then China’s Meme Force would be larger than the US and we can’t have that

mriormro ,
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PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

I’ll never understand people who say this stuff. Like, make your own? Ask other Europeans to make them? What are we supposed to do, NOT post, because the minority of users don’t feel like their relevant?

MisterScruffy ,

Americans must be better posters than EUers. Step up your game Europe

RaivoKulli ,

Can’t be bothered to

10_0 , in sToP pOsTiNg pOliTicAl mEmEs!!!

Place for memes: Exists
Political memes: Is this !politicalmemes?

Infamousblt ,
@Infamousblt@hexbear.net avatar

What does being political mean to you?

Sotuanduso , (edited )

Exactly. We complainers aren’t saying they can’t post about politics, just requesting they post their political memes in the designated political meme space.

EDIT: A message to people from Hexbear

Thank you for your input, but I stopped responding to arguments here at least 24 hours ago because I can’t juggle that many conversations at once. I would ask that you respect that and not continue to argue with me about what is and isn’t political, because I’m just going to ignore it anyways. Thank you.

Infamousblt ,
@Infamousblt@hexbear.net avatar

What does being political mean to you?

Sotuanduso ,

In this context, it’s matters related to government, politicians, or the general culture of a country, in which there are two or more major camps of conflicting opinions, where a good deal of people in one or more of those camps view the other camp as evil because of their view.

If the post is in a community where only one of the camps is significantly present, but the post is attacking the other camp, it is still political.

Why do you ask? Are you hoping to expose some inconsistency in my definition? Maybe use it to call something I like political with the expectation that I’ll disagree with you? Or were you expecting my definition to be biased, calling something political that shouldn’t be, so that you could expose me as a moustache-twirling villain?

Infamousblt ,
@Infamousblt@hexbear.net avatar

You’re pretty upset that I asked a question aren’t you? I wonder why that is.

Government and politicians I think are pretty self explanatory and I would agree those are inherently political, no argument there.

What do you think is part of a general culture of a country, or not? How would you define culture that has conflicting opinions? Is it solely up to your discretion, or would you agree that if anyone has any disagreement about a meme that would make it automatically political?

Is this one political because it references the FBI, a governmental organization? startrek.website/post/1847371 I would argue that it is political.

Is this one political because it references culture related to advertising in capitalism? I would think everyone should agree that any reference to or commentary of an economic system is inherently political because of course economic systems are controversial. I don’t see how anyone could argue that references to a combination of two major brands isn’t a commentary on marketing: programming.dev/post/3200916

I mean this one references politics so it’s clearly political right? lemm.ee/post/8502748

I’m just curious about what you and others think is political versus not. You can’t have a discussion about if something should or should not be allowed if you can’t clearly define the boundaries of that thing. I find the discussion around what is and isn’t politics to be an interesting one, that’s all.

Waker ,

I think can answer the memes questions for you.

  1. Non political
  2. Non political
  3. I guess it could be considered political in a way, but it doesn’t target a specific party or opinion so I’d let it through.
Infamousblt , (edited )
@Infamousblt@hexbear.net avatar

But I think they’re political. Is my opinion on what is and is not political invalid for some objective reason?

Waker ,

You’re entitled to your opinion. It doesn’t make it less wrong though, the content of the memes is clearly not political.

Infamousblt ,
@Infamousblt@hexbear.net avatar

Can you provide an objective reason why my thoughts on this are wrong?

Nelots ,

Acknowledging the fact that politics exist is not inherently political. Please explain how that third meme is even remotely political?

Regardless, the lack of a clear and simple political-or-not binary is not an excuse to avoid moderation. The political nature of some things will be argued and some things will slip through the cracks. It happens with all spectrums. But on the other hand, some things are so clearly political that it’s nigh impossible to argue they’re not. I’m sure you can see the massive difference in a meme about Microsoft shoes and a meme about Trump or Biden bad. Those clear extremely political memes are the ones people want banned to their own communities.

And to be clear, I actually like political memes. I just find your rebuttal to be in bad taste.

Infamousblt ,
@Infamousblt@hexbear.net avatar

So basically you want to go with “whatever the mods think in their gut is political, is political” and expect that you’ll have a well moderated community with that as your rule?

I mean, you do you, but that doesn’t sound like a recipe for success to me.

If you have to ask why the 3rd meme is political I encourage you to go read the thread beneath it. Look at how much discussion and conflict it caused. It’s clearly political and basically that entire thread’s discussion is proof positive.

Waker ,

They are wrong because those memes aren’t politic. They are not mentioning any party or political affiliation in any way.

Do companies influence politics? Absolutely. But that’s not the point of the meme.

Infamousblt ,
@Infamousblt@hexbear.net avatar

Got it. So only memes that directly mention a political party or political party position is political.

Since there are many communist parties across the globe, that means that any post referencing capitalism is political since making any statement on capitalism is political since it’s related directly to the party stance of political parties around the world, both pro and against.

So the Microsoft Nike crossover meme is political by your definition. Glad we agree!

Waker ,

You almost got it buddy. Keep trying though, you’re very close!

UlyssesT ,

“You’re almost in the direction of my feelings about what is political and what isn’t based upon how I feel about it!” smuglord

Alaskaball ,
@Alaskaball@hexbear.net avatar

Lmao. The FBI: famously non-political government organization that murders activists as easily as one can breath air.

And Microsoft: famously non-political company that bribes lobbies the u.s government constantly to gain monopoly over their market, works hand-in-hand with federal agencies to monitor system users, and regularly influences city, state, and national politics in the pursuit of subsidies of the American worker in order to further boost their already gross profit margins.

Waker ,

I’m not disagreeing that some companies can have a political impact on the world.

Those memes in particular, aren’t focused on the political aspects. You have to be missing a brain in order to miss the point there.

Alaskaball ,
@Alaskaball@hexbear.net avatar

You can’t have one without the other and you’d have to have a brain smoother than melting butter in order to miss the point there

Waker ,

There’s no point arguing with you since you can’t understand the basic concept of what the point of a meme is nor can you read what I previously wrote.

Alaskaball ,
@Alaskaball@hexbear.net avatar

There’s no point arguing with you since you’re detached from material reality, nor can you read what I previously wrote.

UlyssesT ,

since you can’t understand the basic concept of what the point of a meme is

You think the basic concept of a meme is an increasingly stale chuckle you get while being in an ever-smaller bubble world because the world outside of that is scary and uncomfortable to you. grillman

Waker ,

What? This is a community for memes. Political debate isn’t memes. Simple as that.

UlyssesT ,

Keep your head in the sand as deep and long as you like, but that doesn’t change the fact that almost everything imaginable has some intersectional political context, including whining about things being too political.

You may not notice it when you’re comfortable and used to it, but it’s there.

Simple as that.

The only thing simple about it is your willful ignorance and the ever-smaller bubble world you’re trying to hold together because the world outside of it is scary and political.

Waker ,

I get what you mean, even thought I don’t entirely agree.

If you go to extremes, everything can be political. That’s not the reality more often than not. Also, I don’t mind politics, and I enjoy different opinions. However, I don’t think memes where the point is clearly to annoy or trigger any political party or political movement belong here though.

In sum, I respect and appreciate any and all political opinions, on political centric communities. I just want to look at stupid memes and unwind, I don’t want to see the the usual left/right/capitalist/socialist/communist arguments.

UlyssesT ,

If you go to extremes

Who decides what is “extreme?” You?

That’s the problem. It’s a vague arbitrary line that seems defined by “what you find uncomfortable that you don’t want to think about.”

Waker ,

Extremes are based on common sense. If you don’t have common sense then I’m afraid I can’t help you understand what is political and what isn’t.

I’m done wasting my time with this crap.

UlyssesT , (edited )

Extremes are based on common sense.

Again, what you call your common sense as an arbitrary and selfish metric that others clearly do not agree with, including here in this thread.

If you don’t have common sense then I’m afraid I can’t help you understand what is political and what isn’t.

That’s an impressive amount of textual masturbation there.

I’m done wasting my time with this crap.

Alas, you must go, the nonpolitical logical humans of Rationalia require your presence. Be on your way, oh nonpolitical arbiter of what is and isn’t common sense. smuglord farquaad-point

corgiwithalaptop ,
@corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net avatar

Extremes are based on common sense. If you don’t have common sense then I’m afraid I can’t help you understand what is political and what isn’t.

FUCKIN LMAO and who defines what common sense is? Is there a list of criteria for something to be considered common sense that is generally accepted? I must have missed that checklist.

Guess I’m a dumbfuck.

ShimmeringKoi ,
@ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar

When you get to the size of a monopoly like that, you operate on such a massive scale that your very existence as a company, and the actions required to grow and sustain it, is orders of magnitude more politcal than say, the small-scale relationship between a restaurant owner and their employees, which is also inherently politcal.

Waker ,

Again, I’m not saying you guys are wrong. What I’m saying is that the point of the meme is NOT political in nature.

Adkml ,

No you have to be missing a brain to think monopolies don’t have anything to do with politics.

Stealing a line from something I saw earlier. If you don’t like the memes just ignore them like you do the homeless people you walk by, non-politically.

Waker ,

I never said they don’t have anything to do with politics you dumbfuck. Re-read my post.

Adkml ,

Ok I re read the part where you said

  1. Not political

And interpreted that to mean you didn’t think it was political.

If that wasn’t the intent you should work on communicating more clearly, or not being mad when people correctly read what you posted.

Waker ,

Oh god. How thick can you be? I meant the MEME isn’t political. Never said anything about Microsoft or other big companies.

You did not read correctly, indeed. The question was if the meme was political, not Microsoft.

carl_marks_1312 ,
@carl_marks_1312@hexbear.net avatar

Oh god. How thick can you be? You did not read correctly, indeed. The question was if the meme was political. And it clearly is, since it references political entities and distributes the ideology of whoever is OP of the meme to a bunch of unsuspecting lurkers that falsely assume it’s non-political. Also the fact that you disagree about what is and what isn’t political makes it political

Waker ,

You guys are making it political.

Remove the hexbear instance and you’ll see that most of the comments agree on what is and isn’t politics, even thought their feelings towards X and Y political party differ. It’s seems it’s just you guys creating a shit storm of nonsense and everybody else kinda getting along despite their differences.

GarbageShoot ,

There is a massive degree of consensus between Democrats and Republicans with vicious disagreement on a minority of issues

Waker ,

I wouldn’t know, I’m not from the US ¯_(ツ)_/¯ But for what little I know of US politics, I believe you are correct.

carl_marks_1312 ,
@carl_marks_1312@hexbear.net avatar

You’re describing an echochamber…

Waker ,

Nah, I’m describing a meme focused community.

If there are no politics, there are no echo chambers to be had.

carl_marks_1312 ,
@carl_marks_1312@hexbear.net avatar

Of course you think that there are no politics, because you have a very limited understanding of politics

Waker ,

I’m not gonna argue with you anymore. You do you.

Adkml ,

That must explain why all those meme focused communities, especially the “dank” and “edgy” ones radicalized a generation of white boys to worship Andrew tate and why we’ve got 10 year olds saying kill all gays and fuck women to popular “meme” streamers.

Cus of how non political those places are.

Waker ,

I agree with you there. I hate that little old scrutum too.

But, if those memes would start to get too edgy, yes I would still want a specific community for them

Adkml ,

Wow what a surprise the person complaining about memes being too political also thinks that the memes that radicalized fascists should still be kept around.

You’re literally the white moderate holding back progress MLK Jr described.

Waker ,

What drugs are you high on?

I didn’t say those memes should be kept around. I said they should have their own community in the sense that I don’t want them here.

Truth be told, we would have no way to ban those people from creating a community or even an entire instance if they wanted to.

Also, I’m not from the US. No fucking clue what you mean by white moderate. Also, why specifically white? Wtf

Sotuanduso ,

Not upset, just suspicious because I’ve seen you asking that question a lot.

Obviously what I consider political is up to my discretion, but I’m pretty sure the general definition does not include contentious memes, and mine doesn’t either because I gave a clause about one side considering the other side evil because of it.

In general, if a person asks themselves “is what I’m posting political?” they can answer correctly 95% of the time, and the 5% of edge cases won’t upset 95% of the complainers.

Adkml ,

That’s an awful lot of words to implicitly say “it’s not political if I agree with it”

“If a person asks themselves is this political they can answer correctly 95% of the time.”

Yea turns out it’s easier to answer a question correctly if you’re deciding I’d the answer is right or not.

Sotuanduso ,

That’s an awful lot of words to implicitly say “it’s not political if I agree with it”

Where are you getting that?

Adkml ,

Where you said your test is asking yourself if you thought it was political and saying you were right 95% of the time.

Sotuanduso ,

What I meant was that anyone can ask themselves if it’s political, and 95% of the time they’ll get it right by the standards of 95% of the people who don’t like politics.

Adkml ,

Ohh so it’s at the discretion of people who “don’t like politics” if it’s political or not.

Dont worry I’ve seen those “non political” people talk a lot so I know what you mean.

Like how there’s two races. White and “political”

So as long as what you post doesn’t offend straight white people it isn’t political, but if it does then it is.

What a refreshing and original take.

Sotuanduso ,

You’re kinda misconstruing what I’m saying a lot.

Everyone has their own threshold for what’s political. Some people say everything is political. Some people say it’s only political if it relates to conflict between politicians.

I’m saying in 95% of cases, 95% of people can agree on what is and isn’t political.

When people complain about political memes, they’re usually complaining about blatantly political posts, like ones making fun of the republican party, not memes that happen to feature Black people.

GarbageShoot ,

I’m saying in 95% of cases, 95% of people can agree on what is and isn’t political.

This is clearly not what you just said before

95% of the time they’ll get it right by the standards of 95% of the people who don’t like politics.

Unless you are suggesting that something like ~96.95% of the population "doesn’t like politics

Adkml ,

So we can’t post memes about … checks notes the general culture of our country?

So no memes about anything with literally any specifics.

You realize if you got your wish memses would just be “how many of yall like breathing”

Maybe you could point us to an example of an acceptable meme with no politics involved.

Sotuanduso ,

Earlier in this thread, I said:

We complainers aren’t saying they can’t post about politics, just requesting they post their political memes in the designated political meme space.

I also clarified that it has to be contentious, in a way where people condemn each other for thinking differently.

Here are some non-political memes posted in this community in the past hour:
lemmy.ml/post/5184036
lemmy.ml/post/5185652
lemmy.ml/post/5185650
lemmy.ml/post/5186256
lemmy.ml/post/5186204

That’s 5 of the 6 memes posted in that timespan.

ThereRisesARedStar ,

1 and 3 are pretty directly political lol

Adkml ,

Here let me give you the codex.

When this person says “political” they mean “things I dont agree with”

Sotuanduso ,

I don’t think “I don’t like my job” is politically divisive. You don’t really get people up in arms about it unless you’re complaining about capitalism or work in general. Even boomers have their “I’d rather be fishing” meme about it.

Alaskaball ,
@Alaskaball@hexbear.net avatar

With the division of labour, in which all these contradictions are implicit, and which in its turn is based on the natural division of labour in the family and the separation of society into individual families opposed to one another, is given simultaneously the distribution, and indeed the unequal distribution, both quantitative and qualitative, of labour and its products, hence property: the nucleus, the first form, of which lies in the family, where wife and children are the slaves of the husband. This latent slavery in the family, though still very crude, is the first property, but even at this early stage it corresponds perfectly to the definition of modern economists who call it the power of disposing of the labour-power of others. Division of labour and private property are, moreover, identical expressions: in the one the same thing is affirmed with reference to activity as is affirmed in the other with reference to the product of the activity.

Further, the division of labour implies the contradiction between the interest of the separate individual or the individual family and the communal interest of all individuals who have intercourse with one another. And indeed, this communal interest does not exist merely in the imagination, as the “general interest,” but first of all in reality, as the mutual interdependence of the individuals among whom the labour is divided. And finally, the division of labour offers us the first example of how, as long as man remains in natural society, that is, as long as a cleavage exists between the particular and the common interest, as long, therefore, as activity is not voluntarily, but naturally, divided, man’s own deed becomes an alien power opposed to him, which enslaves him instead of being controlled by him. For as soon as the distribution of labour comes into being, each man has a particular, exclusive sphere of activity, which is forced upon him and from which he cannot escape. He is a hunter, a fisherman, a herdsman, or a critical critic, and must remain so if he does not want to lose his means of livelihood; while in communist society, where nobody has one exclusive sphere of activity but each can become accomplished in any branch he wishes, society regulates the general production and thus makes it possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticise after dinner, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, herdsman or critic. This fixation of social activity, this consolidation of what we ourselves produce into an objective power above us, growing out of our control, thwarting our expectations, bringing to naught our calculations, is one of the chief factors in historical development up till now.

  • Marx. The German Ideology.

Tl:DR work under capitalism fucking sucks because it’s exploiting us and not fighting for your liberation is politically divisive

Sotuanduso ,

Well by that logic, merely saying “I have a job” is a political statement.

Also I’m not reading all that, thank you.

nat_turner_overdrive ,
@nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net avatar

Well by that logic, merely saying “I have a job” is a political statement.

spoilernicholson-yes

Alaskaball ,
@Alaskaball@hexbear.net avatar

Exactly you dweeb

UlyssesT ,

Also I’m not reading all that, thank you.

Because claiming to be “nonpolitical” continues to mean wishing to be willfully ignorant and comfortably within the realm of political norms you’re so used to that you just don’t notice them. congratulations

culpritus ,
@culpritus@hexbear.net avatar

Ask yourself a simple question. What happens to someone that doesn’t have a job in our society?

Sotuanduso ,

My notifications are full of Hexbear.

Waker ,

I know how you feel ¯_(ツ)_/¯

FunkyStuff ,

yes-comm lot more where that came from.

Waker ,

It’s alright. I appreciate you guys in a way. Honestly I don’t want my feed to be on an echo chamber, that’s not good for anyone.

I just don’t think this is the right community to do it.

BurgerPunk ,
@BurgerPunk@hexbear.net avatar

People have a lot to say about my position on something. Should i examine some of my underlying assumptions and unexamined opinions regarding this issue?

No, its the hexbears who are wrong

Sotuanduso ,

There comes a point where I can’t juggle conversations with 20 different people on the same topic and I have to step back instead of trying.

sharedburdens ,

I’ve had this exact conversation with an irl friend about how life is political, and you don’t get to pretend that your worldview is somehow so above it all and apolitical so that you can tell other people to stop posting memes in the meme channel.

corgiwithalaptop ,
@corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net avatar

Yeah so shut the fuck up

Mindfury ,
@Mindfury@hexbear.net avatar

smh these lemm.ee tankies aren’t participating in good faitherinos

GarbageShoot ,

Well by that logic, merely saying “I have a job” is a political statement.

Yes

Adkml ,

You’d be so close if your attention span was longer than a goldfish.

Also you can’t talk shit about sonething and then admit you didn’t read it.

Also also were not libs so nobody is impressed by you refusing to interact with things that don’t already confirm your beliefs.

ProxyTheAwesome ,

I don’t think “I don’t like my job” is politically divisive.

This is absolutely a political statement. Your work and conditions are political and can be changed only through seizing control and unionization, both political actions.

Adkml ,

“I don’t like my job” is so political people bled and died to the american government for your right to not have to do it 80 hours a week as a 12 year old.

ProxyTheAwesome ,

First one is about technology and alienation under a capitalist mode of production, discussing work and leisure. That’s political.

Third one is about dating and advertisements online, which is related to sexual politics and commodification of sex work online. Political.

Cummunism ,
@Cummunism@hexbear.net avatar

general culture of a country

youre gonna have to get more specific there. what part of American “culture” grinds your gears and you want to see less of?

NephewAlphaBravo ,

skibidi toilet memes are american culture and thus political

i don’t make the rules

culpritus ,
@culpritus@hexbear.net avatar

The concept of having ‘free speech zones’ where political speech is allowed is … very inherently political though.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone

Civil liberties advocates argue that free speech zones are used as a form of censorship and public relations management to conceal the existence of popular opposition from the mass public and elected officials.[24] There is much controversy surrounding the creation of these areas – the mere existence of such zones is offensive to some people, who maintain that the First Amendment to the United States Constitution makes the entire country an unrestricted free speech zone.[24] The Department of Homeland Security “has even gone so far as to tell local police departments to regard critics of the War on Terrorism as potential terrorists themselves.”

Piers ,

You’re on the memes community for a political instance. If you were complaining about politics in the lemm.ee or lemmy.world meme communities I’d be entirely with you.

ProxyTheAwesome ,

Political memes are memes. sorry you dont like it sweetie

UlyssesT ,

just requesting they post their political memes in the designated political meme space

How is everyone supposed to know what parts of reality and conceivable concepts are political to you and which parts of it are just the political status quo norms that you’re so comfortable with that you don’t notice it the way a fish doesn’t notice water?

Tankiedesantski ,

Exactly! Just like how nobody was saying Rosa Parks couldn’t ride the bus. She would have gotten to her destination anyway had she just ridden at the back like we requested!

FunkyStuff ,

political memes are not comparable to segregation wtf, i dont mean to friendly fire but this take is not the dunk you think it is

Tankiedesantski ,

You’re right. Wanting people who make you uncomfortable to go to their own area so that you don’t have to see them or think about their political grievances has no parallels with segregation.

FunkyStuff ,

Look, yes obviously as socialists we are not welcome in most public places if we speak out, but of all places to make that claim Lemmy.ml is not the one. The mods here are comrades. This is, next to hexbear and grad, probably one of the online spaces most receptive to us. The lemmitor you were replying to has no institutional power against us at all. I hate to tone police but posting on Lemmy is not comparable to being Rosa Parks and trying to make a tortured analogy isn’t helping anyone.

Tankiedesantski ,

The atomic unit of propaganda is emphasis. If you force people to stop posting “political” memes in the main memes space then you are implicitly taking the stance is that “non-political” memes are normal and “political” memes are the other. Everyone intuitively understands that being othered is not desirable because the advocates for separation are not the ones volunteering to create their own apolitical memes space, they’re trying to get political memes ejected from the mainstream space.

Of course this isn’t literal segregation, but the arguments for separation basically all boil down to “go to this separate but equal space and stay there” so if they don’t want to be compared to people who historically made the same argument, they should try coming up with a different argument.

Sotuanduso ,

I prefer the term lemming, thank you.

: )

HornyOnMain ,
@HornyOnMain@hexbear.net avatar

jesse-wtf incredibly bad comparison

infuziSporg ,
@infuziSporg@hexbear.net avatar

“Please keep your demonstration within the designated Free Speech Area”

Shinhoshi ,
@Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml avatar

A message to people from Hexbear

Not from Hexbear, do I get to respond?

Sotuanduso ,

Nice.

ikilledtheradiostar ,

Political memes are a subset of memes therefore political memes can be posted in a meme channel.

nerd

UlyssesT ,
WhyEssEff ,
@WhyEssEff@hexbear.net avatar
betheydocrime ,

The funny thing is, deciding which memes are political and which memes are not political is itself a political decision

You just can’t escape it

Godric ,

I think I can figure out where “DAE X political party bad?!?!?!?” should be

UlyssesT , in A seemingly simple wish

Almost everything conceivable has a political angle of some sort.

What people that complain about politics generally mean is “politics that they notice that make them uncomfortable.”

Ilovethebomb ,

No, they mean you fuckers thinking outright political posts are memes.

10_0 ,

Underrated comment

comrade_pibb ,
@comrade_pibb@hexbear.net avatar

“marginalized folks? Grrrrrrrr!”

UlyssesT ,

“Why can’t there be normal people in my treats that don’t have political issues visibly affecting their lives?” grill-broke

TheFriar , in Don't chicken out bro

Yeah, you hit that send button, block that person, and live a much happier life. They seem like a true fuckhead.

over_clox ,

Top left…

ummthatguy , in Enter the arena
@ummthatguy@lemmy.world avatar
pigup ,

Holy shit

GreenMario ,

I looked it up and apparently she was fired and blacklisted for that.

I hope she opened up a fuckin ninja dojo after that.

Bizarroland ,
@Bizarroland@kbin.social avatar

As a former employee of waffle House all I can say is that sometimes you got to work for 8 hours in order to afford the crack so that you can have the energy to work for 8 hours.

CADmonkey ,
gmtom ,

Needs the ultra instinct theme.

Fazoo , in How about that?
@Fazoo@lemmy.ml avatar

I saw this show on Broadway and would not classify it as family friendly or aimed at kids. 90s cartoons were more subtle in their cussing and sexual comments. Fantastic show I would recommend again and again.

That does not justify what they did though. She may rock the dress, but take your horny selves home. Classic GOP hypocrisy.

WeirdGoesPro ,
@WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Ok, teens then? It’s Beetlejuice, not Chip ‘n’ Dales.

MisterFeeny ,

Chip 'n' Dale are a pair of animated chipmunk rescue rangers that are absolutely for kids.
Chippendales are exotic male dancers that are not.

WeirdGoesPro ,
@WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

TIL, lol. Honestly, now I’m just thinking about chipmunk strippers.

Metans ,

Stripmunks

OprahsedCreature ,

image

Stripmonks image

Rhaedas , in And it's great
@Rhaedas@kbin.social avatar

Watching some reaction videos of people discovering Pink Floyd, one of them made an observation that clicked during "Time". That Pink Floyd likes to first set the mood with the opening, then drop a few profound lyrics, and follow with a long solo that sets a mood of introspection where your mind goes back to those lyrics letting them hit harder during the musical interlude...then they follow with deeper lyrics to hit again.

I'll admit that I'm one of those who enjoyed Pink Floyd when I was younger mainly because of the music. It's coming around again and the lyrics are now my focus because some of it hits far harder once you have experience in life.

The_Picard_Maneuver OP ,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

It always feels like I’m in a long trance when listening to their music. It just flows.

Matthew , in Please don’t nuke me

This is the case for every country. You just see it with the US a lot more since it of course has the biggest footprint on the English-language side of the internet.

Gabu ,

Not even close. Also doesn’t help that 'muricans have a very distorted view on how their country is perceived

Iron_Lynx ,

According to one source, the only media that for a long time made it into the states is media that the US government approves of. I could go into detail about it, but it shows up quite prominently in this video.

theragu40 ,

I think most of us on the internet hear about it constantly and it’s pretty hard not to understand how we are perceived.

Honytawk ,

Ok, can you tell us then how the other countries in the world perceive the US?

theragu40 ,

Pushy, ignorant, reactionary, racist, isolationist, nationalist. Stick our noses into the matters of other countries where we don’t belong. Assume everything is centered around us. War/military happy. Arrogant. Loud.

Not sure if I’m missing any, but these are the prevailing things I see when people are talking about the US and the people who live here.

What is hard is that there are of course people (many people, even) that match one or multiple of those descriptions. But the same as it is silly to generalize all of Europe (or even any one European country), it is silly to generalize all Americans.

zorlan ,
@zorlan@aussie.zone avatar

I think other countries are a lot more open to self deprecation as part of their humour / culture. Not saying there aren’t some examples of this in America, it just doesn’t seem to be as prevalent as in British comedy for example.

TWeaK , in Soon I'll die and then I won't have to worry about it anymore

Damn, this image really makes me feel sorry for Will Smith. He’s so pussy whipped, and it’s not even funny. His wife is in Scientology and basically uses the church and the threat of taking his kids away and hiding them within the church to get Will to toe into line, so much so that she cucked him with their son’s rapper friend (who she groomed after his mother died). This image is from her “red table” internet talk show where she had Will on and they both said they were ok with her sleeping around.

Still though, he gave me my wifi SSID, “KeepMyWiFisNameOutYourF-ingMouth”. It literally only just fits lol.

madcaesar ,

Feel sorry for people that actually deserve it. Don’t waste any emotional energy on this dipshit.

criitz ,

All people deserve empathy

RobertOwnageJunior ,

Nah, some don’t. Wouldn’t say Will Smith is one of them, though.

pinkdrunkenelephants ,

That attitude is destructive and harmful to humanity.

Bluehood380 ,

Wait what’s he do?

EmpathicVagrant , in Support your landlord!

It should have mold peeking out from the bits it missed.

FilthyShrooms ,
BenVimes , (edited )

I feel this in my soul. My university house had mould on the bathroom ceiling, and one of my roommates was allergic - they went into violent sneezing fits every time they showered.

Our landlords tried everything to avoid addressing it, up to claiming that, “people couldn’t be allergic to mould like that.”

They only “fixed” it after one of my other roommates threatened to talk to his father who was a lawyer. Their “fix” was to paste over the ceiling with vinyl plates.

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