Most of the big names in the flerf community are grifters, for sure. But many of the people who follow them are genuine believers. I have a relative who’s a die-hard flerfer.
Sheeps and Neeps was a small time flerfer who literally died because his conspiracy theory beliefs about cancer treatment, and there was that guy who went up in a rocket and came down in pieces. So some of them really do believe it. In my relative’s case, he went through a lot of trauma, flerfers give him a sense of belonging and something to hold onto.
Beginning on 1 April, they carried out England-wide blockades of ten critical oil facilities, intending to cut off the supply of petrol to South East England.[33][34][35]
On 26 August, the group blocked seven petrol stations in Central London and vandalised fuel pumps. Forty-three people around London were arrested on suspicion of criminal damage.
On 20 June, the protestors spray painted private jets at a private airfield at Stansted Airport. The group had been targeting a jet belonging to singer Taylor Swift, but could not locate it.[140]
Yes, a lot of their protests are “awareness” stuff (basically none of which do actual damage. Unlike oil, actually!). No, it’s not just that. The UK isn’t an active warzone so bombing stuff is slightly more difficult to justify.
They did say what works and what doesn’t. Attack private jets and block oil refineries, don’t spray paint Stonehenge or paintings. It’s not hard to figure out what’s going to be popular and what isn’t.
Yeah, people don’t care that it washes off easily, they don’t hear about that part, the point is that those actions aren’t popular, painting/blocking private jets is, so just do more of that instead?
Nobody hears about them shutting down oil factories, attention getting stuff is why those are talked about.
They never do any actual harm either, like Stonehenge was cornstarch, it’ll all be gone the next time it rains. They paint the glass in front of paintings, not the paintings themselves.
My better idea is to not do dumb shit that actively turns people (voters) against the cause. Egg some politicians, paint some private jets, people love that shit.
Besides just saying “AwArEnEsS”, what does JSO actually achieve?
Every single person on the planet is aware of climate change, what we actually need to do is convince people to take action. JSO actively convinces people to vote against action on climate change.
The point I’m trying to make is that despite the good stuff they may do, it’s overshadowed by the dumb shit that’s turning people against the cause.
Those actions didn’t achieve much, and I’d say anything they did achieve has been undone by their other antics.
Do you know anyone who has been convinced by JSO to take more action against climate change? It’s only people who are already onboard cheering them on.
I know a few people who have become more anti green because of JSO, and general consensus among anyone I know is that JSO is doing more harm than good.
Every single person on the planet is aware of climate change
I’m still trying to get my husband’s uncle to get off his easy out of “well I guess it’s happening, but humans didn’t cause it.” He, along with a lot of other people, are in an echo chamber. Obviously plopping pigment on monuments isn’t going to do shit to convince them, but I don’t know what will.
The reason they stopped directly targeting oil infrastructure in the UK is because the oil/gas giants bought injunctions (private laws) banning protest near them, leading to people going to prison for holding signs on a grass verge outside an oil refinery.
The chad is just an ecoterrorists. Both are valid forms of saving the environment. The chad will become more common as more realize we are out of time and as more die due to climate change.
I dont think Ive ever even pretended to think they are, for me children, especially babies and toddlers, give me a pretty bad case of the uncanny valley effect and look eerie and cause discomfort, as well as anxiety since Im even less sure than usual what they’re going to do and dont want someone’s kid getting hurt because of something I failed to notice. I dont hold it against them or hate children for it, its not their fault after all, but I do try to avoid being around them where practical.
You are literally spreading propaganda against climate protest.
Why? Do you want to discouraged protest? Do you want to distract from the environmental vandalism of oil companies? Do you want to empower governments to pass anti protest measures?
What is your goal here? If you are trying to recruit for an eco terrorist cell surely you’d do better psyching people up rather than ridiculing some of the most risk-comfortable protesters.
edit: You know I’m actually not done. They haven’t destroyed any paintings, they threw soup on glass. Unlike the fossil fuel industry which has destroyed like entire fucking species, in unknowable numbers.
Also you want to whinge about a blocked road but want people to destroy pipelines? what do you think happens when petrol stations can’t get fuel? Sure seems like that’ll stop even more people getting to work on time.
Could you uncritically absorb oil company astroturfing and pro status quo media bullshit a little less eagerly?
relevant usa civil rights quote applies:
First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can’t agree with your methods of direct action;” who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a “more convenient season.”
Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."
Your armchair iamvertsmart take is counterproductive.
One of the reasons I DO think babies are cute is that I can walk away when they start making noise, smelling bad, or being generally unpleasant. They’re cute because they’re not my problem!
I’d 100% ruin a kid’s life and my own if I had to take care of one full time. They’re not for me I’ve always known that. I’m much better suited for being the cool aunt
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