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0x4E4F ,
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ChaoticNeutralCzech ,

all Linux distros

This is not a Linux problem; Windows 10 would fare way worse. Maybe similar on a Pi 5, I’ve seen a review and it handles Full HD on either OS.

magic_lobster_party ,

I use ash btw

Manifish_Destiny ,

Let me know if you find a fix. I’m trying to stream 3 of my cameras to the Synology surveillance GUI, and it’s a fucking slideshow. I get a few frames a minute.
Gonna try the same thing on an orange pi

Lumisal OP ,

Sure thing. Let me know if you get better results using oranges rather than raspberries.

Evil_Shrubbery ,

Is this a 4K HDR+ DV meme?

Lumisal OP ,

I’ve got low standards. At this point I’d be happy with 720p

Evil_Shrubbery ,

Yeah, gimmie some nice bitrate and Im happy. I would vastly prefer more fps over more pixels.

cmnybo ,

You just need a program that actually supports the hardware video decoder. I’ve played 30-40mbps bluray rips on a Raspberry Pi 1B without any issues in kodi. The video played smoothly with no frame drops. The user interface was very sluggish though.

The GPU and video acceleration on the Pi is weird, so software has to be built specifically for it.

Lumisal OP ,

Actually, Kodi did work well, yes.

It’s just that I really dislike Kodi for the purposes I wanted to use the Pi for 😅

Even the YouTube made for it worked (although the interface is… Well, it’s an interface).

It’s still a plan D, in case can’t get anything else to work

fossphi ,

I blame the modern web for this

Lumisal OP ,

Things haven’t been the same since web 1.0 came out

leisesprecher ,

But they should. Or at least comparable.

Think about the difference between Reddit and Lemmy. They both offer similar functionality, but Reddit will set your phone on fire if it gets the chance.

The same is true for YouTube. Browsing YouTube is scrolling through an image gallery, only video playback should be a problem. Yet, it will consume more resources than a well equipped laptop had when YouTube was launched. That’s insane.

We’re moving in a direction where computers get faster and faster, but for the last 10 years or so, the actual utility of the system as a whole stagnated. Besides games, what can a modern computer do, that a 2014 model couldn’t?

Lumisal OP ,

You think it’s bad now? Wait until ChatGPT is the one coding things.

Modern hardware allows for bloat, and so bloat is made. Add in a huge helping of tracking everything you do, and you get a shit pi.

Now repeat but also mess up the code some more.

Behold: the true Web 3.0

onlinepersona ,
stoy ,

Last year, I got myself a new Camera, a Lumix S5, and after uploading some photos to DeviantArt (I have had the same account for almost 20 years) and browsing my gallery I realized that I had had enough.

It was so slow and annoying to work with.

So I sat down and started work on a simple webpage that I could host on a normal webhost.

And I built a nice index page in HTML/CSS, and then used photo albums generated by digiKam for the photo albums.

It loads fast, it is easy to navigate, fairly easy to update, and the photo albums can be navigated with arrow keys or swipe gestures.

I am considering writing a blog UI for me to be able to make a simple blogging page, I’ll still write it in static HTML/CSS, so I’ll have to write every blog entry in HTML as it stands now, but I’ll keep looking for easier alternatives

TootSweet , (edited )

Relevant blog post.

Remember when if your aunt wanted you to build her a computer that she’d only use for “web browsing”, that meant you could opt for the cheap components?

The_Picard_Maneuver ,
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I recently dipped my toe into Linux with a raspberry pi and couldn’t figure out why Firefox was so laggy. I thought maybe I did something wrong.

Lumisal OP ,

Well it’s refreshing to see I’m not the only one

thejml ,

There’s hardware video encoding/decoding support. I used a Pi3b+ to transcode video for a while and would easily get 2x or better on full 1080p video. The 4 is better and I’ve heard even better on the 5, but I’ve not had a compelling reason to spend that much to find out.

Lumisal OP ,

Yes.

Everything you say is correct.

I have a 4B, with 4 gigs.

Everything is logical.

Yet I’ve still been unable to achieve that despite trying multiple distros. Only Android of all things has successfully played YouTube (via smart tube) and video without any issues. I’ve also yet to see video evidence of smooth playback aside from one person on YouTube (Computers Explained I think), and it was only on Raspberry Pi OS. Which in fairness I kinda do too, but it takes like 12 seconds average to load a webpage on their version of Firefox (no added extensions) and either 5 or 30 on Chromium for some reason.

I’ve been trying to set the Pi as a htpc (that’s not a lobotomized Kodi box) that can also do minor streaming and a few other things, for 5 days and counting. I made a nice click friendly desktop with Manjaro KDE for Pi, and the OS itself is snappy and fast. But any major video graphical elements and it becomes a geriatric Commodore 64.

I know (read:guess) it must be that something going wrong with hardware acceleration, but just can’t figure it out. Maybe my Pi is cursed.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble ,

Even on the Pi 5 the basic desktop environment in RPI OS with hardware acceleration working feels sluggish. I’m not sure if it’s some weird power savings thing, but the pi just drops frames whenever it feels like it.

krigo666 ,

The RPi 5 SoC does not have VP9 hardware decoding which is necessary for YouTube videos. Anything above 1080p30 inside a window will suck.

Weird part is that RPi4 SoC has it.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble ,

Wait wtf really? That’s dumb.

But I’m just talking about puttering around in the basic desktop environment, not even with a web browse. Just dragging around the file browser it will randomly lag for absolutely no reason.

Lumisal OP ,

Yeah, I noticed that too - another reason I worked so hard trying to get that KDE Manjaro going - it was the only one which wasn’t sluggish.

captain_aggravated ,
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using a Pi 4 4GB model as a desktop, I had the best luck with Ubuntu MATE.

TootSweet ,

My experience is similar. I don’t play YouTube videos on my 4B with 8GB of RAM very often. When I do, I make sure it’s well less than a quarter of my 1920x1080 screen. (I use a tiling window manager, so I usually just make my browser window the top-left quadrant of my screen and don’t theater-mode or anything.) And I often reduce the quality to 480p or whatever.

If I’m going to watch something longer than a few minutes and want to be doing other things on my Raspberry Pi while the video is running, I’ll just pull it up on my phone propped next to my monitor.

RmDebArc_5 , (edited )
@RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works avatar

Some tips:

  1. Rasberry pi OS is the lightest OS on pi
  2. Use Falkon as a browser, it’s much lighter
  3. Use mpv (or celluloid for simplicity) to watch YouTube videos and something like ytfzf (tui) or plasmatube (gui) for browsing YouTube

Also gnome is a desktop environment not a distro

Lumisal OP ,

My bad. Only slept 3 hours trying to get things to work last night. And 6 before that.

I had already resigned to just getting an Intel n100 mini PC for my purposes, but I might take another crack at it with your recommendations in the future, after I get some rest and stop dreaming of pies in the sky.

Except Raspberry OS. It’s still a bit sluggish for me. Manjaro KDE has been the fastest so far.

RmDebArc_5 ,
@RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works avatar

Also if you use Firefox make sure to use h264ify for hardware acceleration on YouTube

Mongostein ,

I would still eat that

Lumisal OP ,

I’m considering it too, unfortunately

Mongostein ,

I’m going to the store to buy a pie now

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