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Mandy ,

Man i wish, to this day, no matter the distro its like russian roulette with a revovler loaded with 5 bullets

And when it even starts im lucky it even runs reasonably well

Solus was the only one that worked a little better

And than enadeavouros AFTER several hours of stupid searching and installing some random crap i never found again

michaelmrose ,

If you really want to have a go of it you should either buy well supported hardware next time you buy or even better buy hardware that actually comes with Linux by an OEM that has already done the research and selection and then don’t run a kernel older than your hardware. Stick with boring well supported stuff neither bleeding edge nor ancient.

It’s great that you can at this point pick hardware out of a hat and have a lot of it supported by Linux but it doesn’t mean you should buy hardware this way if you want to have a good experience.

_Sprite ,
@_Sprite@lemmy.world avatar

I can get some old ass terminal based JRPG and Sims 3 which can barely run on windows working using bottles but I can’t get the linux version of Hearts of Iron IV to recognize dlc wtf is this

NutWrench ,
@NutWrench@lemmy.world avatar

I haven’t had any problems running my Steam library under Linux Mint. Older games, like Deus Ex and Giants: Citizen Kabuto I can run directly in Wine.

If I could get Vortex Mod Manager working properly under Linux, I wouldn’t need Windows at all.

Bonje ,
@Bonje@lemmy.world avatar

You can!

Add Steamtinkerlaunch to your steam proton list with protonup‐qt Then, select it under the force compatibility menu. From there, just click the run vortex mod manager button.

You can also run steamtinkerlaunch standalone, which is what I did for cyberpunk2077, but I feel like I did more manual file moving than I had to.

Edit: can’t spell today

LMagicalus ,
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Nexus is running Linux tests for their new mod manager RIGHT NOW. I believe its still limited to Stardew Valley for now while in alpha, but they’re making strides here! nexus-mods.github.io/…/GettingStarted/

Aceticon ,

I’ve switched for over a month now and did had problems with 2 games out of the 6 I tried so far (all of which were both games installed via Lutris and I found solutions to fix them both).

Funnily enough one of the games I got via Steam which did not work before in Windows now works in Linux. Further, I was running Windows 7 (yeah, I know it was a bad idea security wise), so there are AAA games whose minimum Windows version is 10 which I now can play in Linux that I couldn’t before in the Windows I was using.

All in all it has been great and I have no intention whatsoever to go back to Windows.

Even if there are games that won’t work in Linux, there are so many good games out there that can entertain me for hundreds of hours that I won’t miss the handful I cannot get to run in Linux.

hperrin ,

I have a couple games that were Windows 98 and Windows XP games that don’t work on Windows 10/11, but work just fine on Linux. It’s funny that Linux is sometimes better at running Windows games than Windows is.

Aceticon ,

Wine and Proton manage to be better at both forward and backward compatibility with Windows than actual Windows.

coffee_with_cream ,

Bazzite is awesome 😎

bigboig ,

Mfing world of goo 2 offers an appimage file instead of a flatpack, so I have to monkey around with the console or lutris to get it to work on steamdeck. I just want to play my puzzle game, not puzzle how to play my game. Ah well

Curiousfur ,

I’m just waiting for better VR support (formerly WMR, now Quest 3), and my system (Thinkpad T15G) is Intel/Nvidia, occasionally with an Nvidia eGPU, and I’ve heard good support for that just isn’t ready yet. Linux would be great if I had a budget to build something entirely optimized for Linux, but right now it’s just not right for my system and budget.

I plan on trying it out again soon, but I just don’t have time for a new learning curve right now, even if I’m fairly tech savvy.

djsoren19 ,

What e-sports have kernel level anti-cheat? Isn’t it just the crap published by Riot? I know both CS and Dota 2 work on Linux, I’m pretty sure you can get Overwatch 2 running. You can’t exactly play Smash on a Windows PC either, but I think the other major fighting games like Tekken and Street Fighter work. Are there any other serious contenders for a major esport I’m just forgetting?

mlg ,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

It’s just the usual “AAA” suspects

Valorant Battlefield 2042 Rainbow Six League

Even CS technically if you play competitive on faceit, which is still pretty dumb.

There’s plenty that actually work though, even with anticheat: areweanticheatyet.com

Anti cheat preventing gaming on Linux is honestly an outlier at this stage. It just means the devs don’t want to deal with working with an additional OS which several other devs and valve itself has shown is not a major issue anymore. Both EAC and BattleEye have had linux userspace clients for years, and both support WINE now.

Also because they probably can’t convince linux users to install a kernel level anti cheat as if that isn’t rootkit spyware lol. Akmod and dkms devs would probably laugh if Riot tried such a thing.

Buddahriffic ,

Personally, I see incompatibility with kernel-level anti-cheat as a feature rather than a limitation.

People can still cheat without involving any software on their PC because the game needs to display something to the user (which can be analyzed by another device, either intercepting the stream before sending it along to the monitor or even by using a camera to grab the pixels from the monitor, if there’s encryption used on the signal to prevent mitm). And it needs to accept input from the user, which another device connected to the device analysing the display can adjust to improve aim, prevent friendly fire, or just auto shoot when you’re pointed at a target. You could even write a full bot using that.

On the other hand, kernel level anti-cheat can be an attack vector to get into your machine in a way that existing malware detection will have a hard time detecting. Kernel modification is the level rootkits work at and an arbitrary code execution flaw could mean your hardware is forever compromised, or at least anything with flashable firmware storage (especially if that firmware also implements the flash capabilities, since it could then add its own code to any new firmware you try to flash).

I just don’t play many multiplayer games these days to avoid the cheating. And if I do get back into multiplayer games, I’ll either do it on a console where I don’t care as much about the kernel getting exploited or I’ll play a game where the servers are managed in a way that cheaters will get banned because an admin can see what they are doing.

fafferlicious ,

I dunno. I’ll probably get hate for this, but it’s not ready. It’s better. But Linux isn’t a good replacement for Windows yet. I love Linux. Love the customization, the *NIX filesystem makes sense, and it’s beautiful. Also no ads in my start menu!

I want to use Linux regularly, and I tried last week. It failed. Kind of miserably.

I need to pick a distro. Mint and Pop_OS were consensus recommendations.

Try mint: Installing dual boot alongside windows was beautiful. But no internet connection, says cable is unplugged (it’s not). Realize I downloaded an earlier version (20). Get the most recent version, and problem resolved. It’s kind of odd to me that even a pretty recent version wouldn’t support my adapter, but whatever. I tried to update and install Nvidia drivers: update fails because dependencies were not installed. Okay… Why not prompt me to install them? Why make me apt-get all the dependencies by hand? I don’t expect handholding, but some things should be. If I NEED something as a pre-req for what I’m trying to do, queue it up!

Fuck it. Let me try Pop_OS, instead - that has some gaming chops, right? Dual boot was more challenging to stand up, but it all worked. Nice. Fire up game: get ~20 fps drop compared to windows (108 from 130) with the same settings. I don’t want to troubleshoot the performance hit. It should just work. I want a tool not a project.

Never mind if you want HDR support. That seems to vary by distro. Variable refresh rate also seemed to be spotty from what I read in gaming distro recommendations. ALSO, do you need UEFI support? RIP. Enjoy toggling that on and off when you have to jump back and forth between Windows and Linux. Nvidia driver support I chalk up to those arseholes only now starting to open source some things.

And I don’t care that you were able to run everything fine. You had a flawless experience: great. Love that for you. I didn’t. I’m not a computer novice - I know to Google shit and how to implement it. I remember trying to fuck around with Ubuntu back in 2002.

I’m gonna continue trying to stand up Linux for everyday use because I love Linux and I want to use it, but it’s pretty clear that even as someone that wants to use Linux. I’ve been trying to switch to Linux every few years for decades. It’s still far short of being ready for average users.

TeryVeneno ,

This comment is tough because in its wrongness, it reveals a greater problem with Linux gaming. I think you’re right that it’s probably not ready outside of SteamOS. But it’s not correct to say it’s not ready in general. They are several distros that have all the latest features for modern gaming, the issue is you weren’t recommended even one of them. Pop_OS is currently outdated since they are working on their new desktop and mint is on the Ubuntu LTS version meaning they are both significantly behind. The community needs to take that into account when recommending things. That’s the reason I only recommend Bazzite. Cause it’s the closest to a SteamOS experience.

DoucheBagMcSwag ,

I will check out Bazzite over the weekend. Someone told me about Pop OS but this seems less of a tinkering hassle

fafferlicious ,

I appreciate your comment! I’ll take a look at Bazzite. How does it do with everyday tasks? Any other distros you’d recommend?

If what I said was so wrong, I feel even more like there’s a fragmentation issue with Linux (or something). This is especially true if some of the most well known distros have issues with gaming. It only fuels my urge to make a table of features for each distro and then evaluate pros and cons of what distro has what. But distro choice shouldn’t matter outside of UI, pre-installed programs, and maybe package management.

I was just super bummed that I didn’t have one of the perfect experiences that I had seen so many people talking about lately.

TBi ,

I hope steam can fix big picture mode with nvidia. It’s sooo slow.

bitwolf ,

That’s nvidias burdon. But I’m sure RedHat/Canonical will coach them to an ideal outcome.

_____ ,

The sheer power of instantly switching desktops in Linux makes the windows user afraid.

But I have seen a lot of old windows heads look at Linux for gaming performance where Microsoft is failing them with bloatware such as copilot.

I don’t think the rootkit anti cheats would ever work to a level windows games developers want it to on Linux though.

Halosheep ,

Anticheat will have to just come from other methods that people will also hate.

Imagine, for example, if they required a form of government issued ID and the account was tied to you specifically. Despite privacy nightmare that it is (plus other issues, especially around globally accessed games), bans would have significantly larger impact if they’re tied to a real-world identity.

_____ ,

Yeah, AC overall is very anti OSS philosophies

cmnybo ,

It doesn’t matter to me if games that use rootkit anticheat don’t work on Linux. I would never install anything that requires a rootkit.

LANIK2000 ,

Personally haven’t encountered a game that wouldn’t run, so as far as I’m concerned it runs anything. I’m not going to shed any tears over Fortnite.

reev ,

It’s just too bad that Riot seems so inherently against supporting Linux. I still enjoy playing ARAMs for watching YouTube on the side and the occasional Val session. Obviously for Val I can just boot over but I do play league about daily.

Inb4 “just don’t play league, it’s bad anyway” yeah thanks, solid solution

ObsidianZed ,

Val was one of the reasons I still dual boot Win10 (plus VR gaming), but now that it released on PS5, I’d rather just relearn the game for controller.

IonAddis ,
@IonAddis@lemmy.world avatar

Weirdly enough, the only game I tried to play that didn’t run was this random Indy game. Didn’t even have fancy graphics, it was one step up from macromedia flash games

The AAA games I’ve played are fine on Linux. Baulders Gate, No Mans Sky, Fallout 76, Cyberpunk 2077, Crusader Kings III.

h3mlocke ,

I like linux but this is stoopid.

Mwa ,
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

I remember seeing someone in a comments section say why bother use linux for gaming bro got destroyed by the replies lol ‎ he also called linux users ekittens 💀

laurelraven ,

Except a lot of anti cheat now supports Linux. Destiny 2 doesn’t run on Linux only because Bungie refuses to allow it, their AC supports Linux just fine now

Mwa ,
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

there is also other games that dont run on linux

Roblox (sober works which is a workaround),Fortnite (Tim Sweeney hates linux from what i heard),and more

Laborer3652 ,

But the steam deck really disproves the notion that Linux can’t run these games. The companies that make them choose not to support Linux, and in that way its not really Linux’s fault that the games don’t work.

laurelraven ,

Exactly this, the community has proven it will put the effort to make it work, and a lot of things that don’t still are because the companies resist it intentionally

Mwa ,
@Mwa@thelemmy.club avatar

true but ngl linux has a low market share but its slowly growing tho

chakrila ,

see also: areweanticheatyet.com

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