There have been multiple accounts created with the sole purpose of posting advertisement posts or replies containing unsolicited advertising.

Accounts which solely post advertisements, or persistently post them may be terminated.

linux_gaming

This magazine is from a federated server and may be incomplete. Browse more on the original instance.

spudwart , in What makes Debian so different from its derivatives that gaming on it is almost an heroic task to achieve?

I run debian as my main and really don’t encounter any issues in gaming.

qyron OP ,

Under the Steam client? I’ve read Steam solved a good deal of issues with gaming on Linux but Steam is not really my thing.

Or do you run your games natively, like I described?

spudwart ,

I do a variety, as I have a few games on GOG.

qyron OP ,

Care to share your tricks?

spudwart ,

Wine, ProtonGE, Lutris, and a bit of luck.

If none of those work,

https://s3-us-west-1.amazonaws.com/soupmemes/Spongebob-Patrick%20We-1543627263985.jpg

qyron OP ,

Nice. I’ll take that in consideration as well.

JokeDeity ,

Seems like a 180 from your initial comment.

raef ,

A lot of my games on Steam fail to run if I switch from proprietary Nvidia drivers to open, so I wouldn’t count on that

qyron OP ,

Steam also carries a good deal of top shelf games; I run old and/or lesser known games.

All the games I mention ran under Mint but, because I enjoy making my life complicated, I moved from it to Debian. So…

raef ,

Just a warning that Stream doesn’t always play nice with open drivers. It’s the only thing that keeps me on proprietary

qyron OP ,

I’ll keep that in mind but Steam doesn’t cut it for me.

spudwart ,

I do a variety, as I have a few games on GOG.

paddycasy ,

Same here. Radeon open source drivers. VR is working, too (HTC). Most oft the time what I need to find out is the correct Proton Version (Took me a bit oft time to geht Cyberpunk running). Other than that no problems at all.

Quazatron , in Steam Flatpak or running steam from Bazzite distrobox container. Which one is better for gaming ?
@Quazatron@lemmy.world avatar

Flatpak Steam works for me. Can’t say I find any difference from native.

warmaster ,

I ran that until I needed to install games on a different disk. Impossible for me on Arch.

garrett ,

You can do this with the Flatpak version of Steam, but you have to give it access to the disks.

Flatseal is the easiest way to do this.

  1. Open Flatseal
  2. select Steam
  3. scroll down to the “Filesystem” section
  4. click on the + icon on the “Other files” area
  5. either put in the full path, or use something like “/run/media” to give it access to all user-mounted storage devices (this value may vary depending on how the disk is mounted)

Restart Steam (if it was running). You should be able to access additional devices.

warmaster ,

I did that and so much more, and yet no dice. I just installed steam normally.

sugar_in_your_tea , in Steam Flatpak or running steam from Bazzite distrobox container. Which one is better for gaming ?

IDK, try it and find out? I run it native and haven’t had any issues, and my main concern running it in a FlatPak would be access to system devices like controllers and whatnot. If I ever run into issues, I’ll probably give the FlatPak a shot, but I don’t have a good reason to at the moment.

sugar_in_your_tea , in What makes Debian so different from its derivatives that gaming on it is almost an heroic task to achieve?

As others said, it looks like the issue is the startup script expects bash shell, but Debian defaults to dash as its default shell. If you’re running these scripts directly, run them like this instead:


<span style="color:#323232;">bash path/to/script
</span>
qyron OP ,

Using that command, the error returned was different.

Running Stardew Valley

/StardewValley: line 7: sw_vers: command not found

NoFpsCap: This feature is not available

SetGameMode( ‘titleScreenGameMode (0)’ )

load preferences (); begin - languageCode=

No usable version of libssl was found

./StardewValley: line 27: 1142 Aborted ./“StardewValley” $@

sugar_in_your_tea ,

sw_vers: command not found

I think this is a macOS-specific command. Did you download the macOS version by mistake?

qyron OP ,

Removed the previously installed, downloaded fresh from GOG, reinstalled.

Same output.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Huh, have you seen this thread? It looks like precisely your issue.

qyron OP ,

Thank you!

OneCardboardBox ,

I think your problem is the libssl version.

Seems like Stardew Valley is built against an old version that isn’t shipped with most distros anymore. In fact, based on the forum posts, I’d be surprised if you could actually get it to work on Ubuntu anymore.

There’s a comment by ssh-mitm in this thread that might help you with getting the right libssl version without breaking your system. …stardewvalley.net/…/no-supported-version-of-libs…

qyron OP ,

I’m going to pin that for later but the “Don’t break Debian” mantra instantly came to mind, even more when I have a laptop with Mint running the game with no issues.

At some point, the game designer will have to update the game, or it will be lost for newer systems.

aruser , in What makes Debian so different from its derivatives that gaming on it is almost an heroic task to achieve?

From your report, what command are you using to launch Stardew Valley? It appears to be a bad shell interpretation. Are you using sh or bash? What’s the first line of the “start.sh” script? What’s your “echo $SHELL”?

I’ve been using debian testing for years for my gaming PC, for laptops and debian stable for servers. I’m very happy with it!

seaQueue ,
@seaQueue@lemmy.world avatar

IIRC debian defaults to using dash for /bin/sh, the problem could be as simple as pointing these scripts at /bin/bash instead.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Yup, looks like a bash vs dash issue, which is why I always set my shebang to be explicit about the shell I’m using.

qyron OP ,

I was using sh but when using bash start.sh it gave a completely diferent pront, regardless not running. Copied the entire prompt on another reply.

“echo $shell” returns *bash : echo : command not found

just_another_person , in What makes Debian so different from its derivatives that gaming on it is almost an heroic task to achieve?

Try Fedora 38 and enjoy that different type of pain.

Use an Ubuntu derivative geared towards gaming maybe. Ubuntu stock is made generic to perform as best for core features on as many hardware configurations as possible. There’s also a TON of tools and scripts out there that can tune a default install for you to make it perform better for gaming.

qyron OP ,

I ran Mint for about six years but Debian is my first love. It’s a harsh and cruel mistress but it has a mystique I never found on other distros.

agent_flounder ,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

Or use Nobara and probably quite a bit less pain; meanwhile, stability for me has been …not as good as mint … But I havent tried to track it down either so maybe it’s just something simple.

seaQueue , in What makes Debian so different from its derivatives that gaming on it is almost an heroic task to achieve?
@seaQueue@lemmy.world avatar

There are three issues IMO.

Another poster mentioned more conservative defaults, which certainly doesn’t help compatibility.

There’re also issues with any non-free software that might be a dependency of the game you want to run.

And finally Debian has a focus on stability, so it takes much more time for software updates to filter their way through the debian ecosystem before they’re released.

Roll all of that together and you’ve got a system that’s anywhere up to a year or two behind the released versions of things your games need to run, and isn’t necessarily motivated to improve the situation.

Flatpak Steam and similar systems should be mostly fine, until you need a fix that’s just recently been rolled into the Linux kernel or your DE or your GPU software stack. If you want the most compatible gaming system you really want to chase current releases of everything in the kernel/library/DE/GPU driver stack and that’s just not feasible on Debian unless you’re building a ton of your own packages on top of Sid. I did that for a while and eventually just switched to Arch instead.

qyron OP ,

I’ll be moving to the testing branch soon, so I’ll get more frequent updates but the errors I’m getting don’t seem to be related with outdated or missing dependencies.

ono , in What makes Debian so different from its derivatives that gaming on it is almost an heroic task to achieve?

The answer is: More conservative defaults.

My gaming system runs Debian Stable. (AMD GPU, Sony game controller, steam-devices and pipewire installed.)
Steam games work fine.
Flatpaks (e.g. emulators) work fine.
GOG games mostly work fine. The few problems I have encountered were fixed by either installing missing libraries or renaming out-of-date ones that shipped with the game.

You haven’t described your system or stated what errors you’re struggling with, and nobody can help you without that information, but chances are they can be fixed if you take the time to understand them.

Edit: BTW, You might want to check out Lutris, if it covers games that you play. There’s nothing magic about it, but some people find it useful as a time/effort saver.

qyron OP ,

Updated my post.

vividspecter , in What makes Debian so different from its derivatives that gaming on it is almost an heroic task to achieve?

You don’t say what version of Debian you’re using but avoid stable on a gaming system. Debian tends to be more minimal OOTB too, and you may need to enable some non-free repos. Hardware matters too, with certain distributions having better Nvidia support in particular.

qyron OP ,

Vanilla 12, with all repositories enabled, soon to move to the testing branch for a somewhat rolling distro.

More information is available on my post.

vividspecter ,

Nouveau is certainly not perfect so that could be the issue. There is work going on it still but I wouldn’t expect miracles.

qyron OP ,

I can install the proprietary drivers myself. It will be a blast from the past, as when I started in Linux. Fun times. That concern is easy to address.

entropicdrift , in Steam Flatpak or running steam from Bazzite distrobox container. Which one is better for gaming ?
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Flatpak is as good as native. I switched from native to flatpak with no perf differences

Willdrick , in What makes Debian so different from its derivatives that gaming on it is almost an heroic task to achieve?

I have Debian on a secondary laptop and it’s rock solid. I’m really tempted to go debian on my main rig but keep the gaming stuff as flatpaks for more frequent updates

qyron OP ,

Debian was my daily driver for years. For fun I mostly ran games from the repos and out of boredom learned how to run Neverwinter Nights.

It was when gaming onnlinux gained more traction I moved to a derivative but Debian is Debian and I really want to go back.

raptir , in What makes Debian so different from its derivatives that gaming on it is almost an heroic task to achieve?

What GPU do you have? Honestly any of them could have a better driver setup out of the box on Ubuntu.

raptir ,

And just to say - it’s not that you couldn’t fix it, but installing the proprietary drivers for an Nvidia card or updating mesa for AMD or Intel would help.

qyron OP ,

An ancient one. See my post for more details, please.

aairey , in Steam Flatpak or running steam from Bazzite distrobox container. Which one is better for gaming ?

No issues running it in Flatpak so far for light gaming.

frizop , in Steam Flatpak or running steam from Bazzite distrobox container. Which one is better for gaming ?

I think the answer is don’t unless you must. Native seems to work 100x better for me

ProtonBadger , (edited )

Well that's a massive difference you're experiencing. For me Native and Steam work the same.

solariplex , in Steam Flatpak or running steam from Bazzite distrobox container. Which one is better for gaming ?

To my knowledge there’s less overhead to running graphical applications through flatpak.

Source: a small test I did months ago

AProfessional ,

There is zero graphics overhead.

  • All
  • Subscribed
  • Moderated
  • Favorites
  • [email protected]
  • random
  • lifeLocal
  • goranko
  • All magazines