Updates might be the culprit. Next to “play” in Lutris there’s a dropdown menu with “show logs” - try that and see why it fails.
Anyway, you should just try installing the game on your Linux partition. I don’t remember the details now, but using Wine with games on NTFS partitions used to be discouraged.
Are you really curious or do you just want to hate on steam for paragraphs? Because I love FOSS too but I find your tone and post in general to be annoying and obtuse.
I’m genuinely curious about why someone would use/support Linux and then use/support Steam, and how people manage to conflate the two. I’ve already posted other paragraphs in other places complaining about Steam over the course of years so I’m alr.
Liking FOSS and the ethos behind it doesn’t at all mean you are required to be a zealot who only accepts that. Further, your claim that gaming on Linux without proton is easy is just flat out wrong.
Because it’s easier to use/troubleshoot and fix problems. “Oh something broke on an update” revert to the last update. “I have an issue and it outputs an error code in the terminal” copy paste into Google/chatGPT and find the solution.
So, why use Linux and support Steam, or use Linux and use Steam?
Because Steam offers a good service. Almost as good as “hackers”.
The other problem is game developers that want DRM and blablabla.
Anyway honestly you sound a little bit way too pathethic. Maybe one day Steam just get’s out of Linux enviroment and goes with the “Steam OS” and you will lose every game you purchesed, but i doubt it because is a gaming platform, as many platforms as possible as much money comes in.
What is good about the service that is in any way similar to Linux, is my question. The two seem explicitly opposed in my eyes besides that Steam is using and therefore contributing to some Linux related projects.
It seems akin to supporting Microsoft for their implementation of WSL. MS also makes good some good products. They also have contributed. They are still anti-thetical to what I thought most Linux users want out of a company. Steam still seems anti-thetical to what I thought most Linux users wanted out of software.
@XenoStare@ZariZari yes, but some convenience is also good. In this case, being able to play windows games, as most of them are released for that platform, on linux without messing a lot with vanilla wine is a godsend. For now, it's about getting people, game studios, etc, to notice us, even if only through the lense of the steamdeck verified badge. It's only temporary I hope, but even if not, philosophi aside for a moment, it's good that we can have more enjoyment than before.
@XenoStare@ZariZari this doesn't make us evil, nor does it make valve good, they did it because they didn't want to pay for windows licenses for all the steam decks they produce, simple as that, we're collateral benefit. Not using entirely free software isn't evil. Every moment we accuse one another of not being supporting enough, idealistic enough, etc, gives the monopolies an advantage because we're squabeling pointlessly. This is what the pollitical left wing should understand as well.
I like Linux, so I use Linux. Before Steam came to Linux, I didn’t play many games, and now that they’re heavily investing in Linux, I’m playing a lot more games.
It’s really that simple.
Here’s my story:
Someone gave me an Ubuntu install disk at college, so I dual booted it on my rented computer; Windows died, so I switched to Ubuntu for the rest of the school year
I declared my major as CS, and the lab computers ran Fedora Linux, so I installed it on my new laptop; it worked better than Windows (Vista at the time) for class work, so I kept using it (I needed Windows for a class, so I ran it in a VM)
I switched to using ViM and fell in love with the terminal
I eventually tried Arch and decided Windows really wasn’t for me since I liked the control
Steam started supporting Linux, so I all of a sudden had a bunch more Linux games to choose from (I had mostly been playing Factorio, Dwarf Fortress, and Minecraft, and StarCraft in WINE); this was before Proton, yet it was still a big deal for me
I’m now on openSUSE, but my experience during college showed me that I really want control over my system. Proton is also a thing, so I’ve picked up a ton more games from Steam.
If games stopped working on Linux, I’d just stop playing games. It’s really that simple, I pick the OS first, and games are secondary.
I get you, OP. Sometimes it seems like people treat Steam as the pinnacle of Linux. It’s even more baffling when people say that they like Linux but wish they could run MS Office, Photoshop etc. Do you really like Linux or do you just hate Windows? Because for me almost the entire point of Linux is that it’s FOSS. If all I wanted was to run proprietary software, I would use an OS that the proprietary software officially supports and was designed to run on, saving myself a ton of trouble.
Yeah this is my main point, I feel the same way when people are trying to run other proprietary software. I understand just being very particular about workflow, big part of the reason I use any given Linux distro, but moving to Linux to then go through the hoops of running MS Office, which even in the best case scenario will be another app that is not easy to update, has always seemed silly to me.
I use it for my servers and for remotely programming for over a decade. Using it on a desktop setup for work or games? Fuck no!
It’s my criticism of the Linux community: They don’t understand what “being productive” really means. I need to do work during the day, and produce results. I don’t have time to deal with my docking station not working, monitors settings breaking, and tinker with them every day… not because I can’t, but because I SHOULDN’T NEED TO.
It was cool when I was a teenager… now I need to make money.
As frustrating as it sounds. On windows and mac, literally plug and play. Every time I get the exact same setup. On Linux… dear Lord… every day a different problem and a different tinker until I swore that I’m done, and went back to remote use of Linux. Linux terminal is perfect, and that’s probably all I’ll need. Linux desktop through VNC, if ever.
Random breakage and weird behavior is why I stopped using Windows at home. On so many machines, I’ve seen the Start menu just stop functioning… or what’s up with the system trying to update the video drivers to the version dated 1968 (the year of Intel’s founding)? Nagging me (again?!) to change my web browser to Edge… Is your browser compliant to web standards this time, Microsoft? I still don’t want to use it.
Users are taught to fear Linux “because you might have to use the command line!” when in Windows you need to use brain-melting Powershell commands like
You pay for Windows, but the privacy terms make it clear that it’s Microsoft’s computer, not yours, yet you have to fix it yourself when things spontaneously break. If I manage to break Linux (by my own actions), at least I feel like I’m learning a bit in the process of fixing it.
Yeah. Having used Linux for quite some time, I’ve watched it slowly go from being the better option for geeks and nerds to just being the better option.
One of the biggest, most useful Linux tips is:
use supported hardware
Don’t mess around forever trying to fix things that almost work. Get supported hardware instead. It’s worth it, and once it’s supported, usage is generally plug-and play - far more so than in Windows.
That aside, Linux won’t shove crap in your face, sell your data, mine your data, cause major problems for you, force you to do installations when you don’t want to (except Ubuntu’s Snap), nor will it degrade in install quality over one year to the point where you think you need a new computer.
Linux allows you to make a hardware investment, rather than driving you towards cycling out to the newest thing ASAP.
The old ThinkPads I have become media servers or home automation rigs. They sip power and chug along for years.
I swapped because I did not like the direction that Microsoft is taking Windows. It felt like just more tracking, more ads, and less control with each iteration. I always felt like Linux was better, but did not meet my need for gaming. The steam deck came out just a few months before I switched, giving me the confidence that I would still be able to play the games that I enjoy.
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