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Why do people still recommend Thinkpads for Linux when there are Linux-oriented manufacturers now?

I’ve noticed in the Linux community whenever someone asks for a recommendation on a laptop that runs Linux the answer is always “Get a Thinkpad” yet Lenovo doesn’t seem to be a big Linux contributor or ally. There’s also at least six Linux/FOSS-oriented computer manufacturers now:

So what gives? Why the love for a primarily Windows-oriented laptop when there are better alternatives?

Chapo_is_Red ,

I’d guess build quality is a big factor for most of those recommenders. I like Lenovo, even though other computers have better specs, because Lenovo’s are tough and reasonably priced.

ayam ,

Availability for me, none of those brands are available in my country.

Castelllan ,

For me it is mostly the price. I don’t need much and a Seconds Hand ThinkPad ist enough for my needs and much less expensive than buying a New Laptop.

MangoPenguin , (edited )
@MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Price, used thinkpads are cheap. I know I can get parts basically anywhere too.

sLLiK ,

Secret sauce: it’s much easier to get an employer on board with buying you a Thinkpad as part of a bulk order than it is to get them to spring for any of these more obscure models as a one-off.

imikoy ,

Since the regular points have already been covered by other people, I’ll add one thing that I like:

Two batteries. The external one is drained first, and it can be replaced while the laptop is running, because there’s an internal battery. I have 24Wh internal, a 16Wh external (it’s old, originallly it was 24Wh) and 72Wh external, in a 12 inch laptop (achievable because 72Wh battery sticks out and acts like a stand), giving me more battery life than anything else without an external power bank.

And I got mine for dirt cheap.

TheAnonymouseJoker ,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Ease of availability of third party repair/replace parts, and due to economies of scale, them being cheaper as well. Also I know that Lenovo will officially provide me the parts easily even 6-7 years down the line, no matter if I am a business or home/personal owner of a ThinkPad. The only complaints I am seeing are the newest fingerprint readers on selected models like Yoga being less compatible, other than that everything is as standard on Linux as it gets.

HughHoney ,

#1 reason, easier to convince businesses to purchase them in bulk; also getting a time tested model makes IT feel more comfortable that they can manage the devices appropriately.

OskarAxolotl ,

Why are you shouting?

HughHoney ,

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provomeister ,
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Seems like someone is new with Markdown notation haha :-)

You probably tried to write “number 1 […]” but the hash (#) converted your whole text to a Heading level 1.

[www.markdownguide.org/basic-syntax/]

HughHoney ,

I’m very aware of markdown I use every day for work. The thing is I assumed they where referring to the way the text appeared to them. But out of the 3 different clients I use for Lemmy on mobile, the mobile site via chrome and the desktop site via chrome none of them render comments in markdown for me. So how are you all seeing markdown rendered in comments on lemmy? Everyone just assumes what they see is what everyone sees.

provomeister ,
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Fair enough, I was only joking haha. I’m using both Sync and Eternity (known as Infinity for Lemmy) and both clients render Markdown. Can’t say for others clients. Seems like not every client see the same thing…

HughHoney ,

Good to know, looks like a few clients do render the markdown in comments.

Markdown in comments

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No markdown in comments

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youngyoshieboy ,

My third world country only have Thinkpad around so. It is what it is.

robinslave ,

same

wheels ,

I also live in Europe

lud ,

https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/d7230833-043d-46b6-a001-7af425111288.webp

danhab99 ,
@danhab99@programming.dev avatar

This

I’ve run Linux on a bunch of different kinds of laptops and the only time that ever actually looks “good” is on a ThinkPad.

kaito ,

“Test of time” is not a valid argument anymore as there are newer ThinkPad models. To think there’s only one ThinkPad model is an illusion.

Also Lenovo laptops are so sharp you could m*rder someone with it

PhictionalOne ,

For people starting with Linux I am more comfortable to recommend them second hand/used laptops. And Thinkpads are prime examples for repairability and upgradability so you find a loot more Thinkpads that go for cheaper.

Besides that. My next Laptop is either gonna be a framework or something from Tuxedo.

PS: I know that newer Thinkpads lack in repairability. I have a X1 Carbon with soldered-on RAM… Suffice to say I wouldn’t buy that again…

TheButtonJustSpins ,

Ew, wtf. Every machine should have replaceable RAM and SSDs.

pingveno ,

The X1 Carbon as far as I know has a replaceable SSD. My understanding with the RAM is that it enables lower energy usage.

PhictionalOne ,

Yes replaceable M.2, but the 8 GB soldered-on RAM is not enough these days

limelight79 ,

I bought a Lenovo last year to install Linux on. I’ve never heard of most of those, but I have been keeping an eye on System 76 for years and researched their offerings.

I don’t recall everything that made me go with the Lenovo, but after my last (Dell) laptop started developing issues that appeared to be related to it flexing, I wanted something with a stronger case, and System 76’s laptops appear to have plastic cases. I help run a trade show-type thing, and I sometimes walk around with the laptop, and I will occasionally balance it with one hand, while entering info with the other. I think the case started flexing, and the touchpad (I’m guessing) started giving spurious inputs, causing all kinds of headaches last year. So I wanted something with a solid case like my old aluminum body Macbook Pro had.

I recognize this is limited requirement, most people aren’t going to have this issue.

xXthrowawayXx ,

Because those laptops suck.

Thinkpads are good and cheap. If someone has a bunch of money to spend on a computer they buy a Mac.

robinslave ,

I didn’t know about Starlabs but apparently THEY HAVE SHIPMENTS TO MEXICO YES!!! regarding your question these are these major reasons:

  • for the most purists, the vendor should have a certificate from FSF saying that “it respects your freedom” a thing that almost no company have (at least that’s what I saw in modern vendors)
  • in my case and other regions, it’s way more probably you can get a Thinkpad easily and more cheap than one from those mentioned
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