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BaalInvoker ,

Agreed. There is no point recommend Arch for beginners. You need to have some knowledge before using Arch!

Don’t get me wrong… Arch is a great system and it’s my distro of choice, however I’m on Linux for more then 10 years! For a completely beginner, easier distros, such Fedora and PopOS, should be the way to go.

visikde ,

Looks like open suze is going to experience more corporate bullshyt
The parent is suggesting the non corporate part is going to need to be renamed

I lost interest in open suze after I was dead ended on version 15

floofloof ,

Tumbleweed is a very good distro. I hope it survives the upcoming wave of BS. It probably will.

BCsven ,

Supposedly Leap will move to whatever SUSE goes to. ALP or something? I lost track of names and options

TheGrandNagus ,

SUSE also has multiple controversial pacts with Microsoft, and has for a long time. Such as the Novell-Microsoft agreement.

There was a time when it looked possible that MS was going to sue lots of Linux projects, and SUSE immediately jumped into a cosy relationship with MS so that if it did happen, they’d be shielded. This was interpreted as a fuck you to other FOSS projects by much of the community. (Was a long time ago though)

fr0g ,

SUSE isn't owned by Novell anymore though. So this isn't particularly relevant.

TheGrandNagus ,

They aren’t, no. But SUSE has continued working with MS, and many of the people that were there are still there.

Perhaps their close relationship is an irrational thing to point at in the current year. Perhaps it isn’t. I don’t really know tbh.

But it’s certainly something some people are still a bit iffy about. And I’m sure some people will still be similarly iffy about RedHat in 10 years too for their recent licencing controversy.

GolfNovemberUniform ,
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Well I personally think that Fedora is a bad recommendation too. It’s not just about Arch.

Estebiu ,
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Just switched to fedora after 4 years of archi. LUKS broke, the h264/h265 aren’t there, and it has redhat’s repo of flatpak selectioned by default rather than flathub. But hey, at least printers work OOTB!

ulkesh ,
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…and the installer is garbage.

GolfNovemberUniform ,
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And slow repo sync but it’s not that important

Trashboat ,
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Both getting fixed with Fedora 41 luckily, DNF5 by default and a new installer they’ve been working on

GolfNovemberUniform ,
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Good but other issues will remain and Fedora was never meant to be a noob-friendly distro in the first place.

TheGrandNagus , (edited )

I’d disagree with that, mostly.

The media codecs is bloody annoying, yes. Sure it’s only a command or two, but it really should just be a tickbox in the installer like it is on, say, Ubuntu. So big agreement there.

As for the Flatpak repo, Fedora switched to Flathub as the default a while ago. IIRC it only doesn’t if you choose to have no non-foss software during the installation (in which case of course you’d expect to not get full Flathub access!)

I think Fedora is an overall pretty great distro for beginners aside from their media codecs bone-headedness and their god-awful installer (which is getting replaced).

Deckweiss ,

This is why people should stop recommending others which distros to recommend or not.

Auf YouTube findest du die angesagtesten Videos und Tracks. Außerdem kannst du eigene Inhalte hochladen und mit Freunden oder gleich der ganzen Welt teilen.

cygnus ,
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I’m not watching some rando groyper’s clickbait. What is the reason?

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