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noughtnaut ,
@noughtnaut@lemmy.world avatar

Well there was also gobo Linux, which would let you play Tetris while the installation did its thing.

MenigPyle ,

Kinda like the C64 games that had load time games

rollingflower ,

This is so damn needed

hemko ,

I don’t know man, Debian’s TUI installer is just neat. It does the job.

TimeSquirrel ,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

Yeah, you only have to look at these once. Absolutely no point except eye-candy for a fleeting moment.
.I don't even care for graphical boots. Give me all the boot messages scrolling by.

I_like_cats ,

Yeah it’s alright. I’ve been using Tumbleweed on my Desktop PC for the last few months and I gotta say it’s mid. They do hard drive unlocking in Grub instead of in the initfs which means that only LUKS 1 and with that only the not-so-secure PDKDF is supported, instead of argon2id which is the modern KDF you want to use. This is a small and annoying oversight in the distros security which is why I will not be using it in the future

bjoern_tantau ,
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Luckily most installers support installing wherever you tell them to. So if you install from a live image you should be able to set it up the way you want. I’ll definitely try that as soon as a I do my next installation.

exu ,

Doesn’t GRUB support LUKS2 nowadays? I know that wasn’t the case a year ago or so, but I didn’t see a notice on the Archwiki last time I checked.

lemmyreader ,

Not sure how up to date this is, but it claims LUKS2 is only partially supported by GRUBdocs.voidlinux.org/installation/guides/fde.html

LUKS2 is only partially supported by GRUB; specifically, only the PBKDF2 key derivation function is implemented, which is not the default KDF used with LUKS2, that being Argon2i (GRUB Bug 59409). LUKS encrypted partitions using Argon2i (as well as the other KDF) can not be decrypted. For that reason, this guide only recommends LUKS1 be used.

mholiv ,

You can fix this by manually placing the /boot partition outside of luks when you do your install. I did it and now my opensuse system boots in a reasonable time. Annoying to do but 100% worth it.

Buelldozer ,
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Huh, I haven’t installed SUSE in at least 10 years and seeing the Gecko is giving me a bit of nostalgia. I may have to run an install and see what’s changed.

Petter1 ,

I still prefer archinstall‘s TUI install script (I just wish that it would offer to install yay as well)

maynarkh ,

OpenSUSE also had a TUI installer IIRC, it’s YaST-adjacent.

Petter1 ,

😊nice little fun fact

barkdoor ,
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    Petter1 ,

    Is it? 😮 it still works well for me, need to research in that case

    rollingflower ,

    github.com/Jguer/yay

    Doesnt look like that, many translations but also normal maintenance

    Cupcake1972 ,

    since when?

    737 ,

    Use paru not yay.

    lurch ,

    No, Ark Linux (not Arch) had Tetris in their installer, so we could play while we waited. It has been discontinued unfortunately.

    mojo_raisin ,

    Wow I’d never heard of anything like that before, that’s pretty dang cool.

    qaz ,

    I know some Minecraft mod packs used to have pong integrated in their loading screens.

    LunarLoony ,
    @LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Small history lesson for those interested: the reason we didn’t see much of this sort of thing is because Namco actually had it patented, up until late 2015. Originally, you could play Galaxian while you waited for Ridge Racer to load! (At the expense of everyone else being able to have little loading screen games…)

    prettybunnys ,

    If we’re being honest every release without this status bar being the tail unfolding OR the tongue extending to catch a fly is a waste.

    N0x0n ,

    Just because of the loading bar? You’re easy to please 😁.

    Aatube ,

    I mean, it is something surprisingly absent from most installers

    just_another_person ,

    You apparently haven’t tried Ubuntu in 20 years? Canonical has had a very clean Windows-ish experience forever, though even back in the day, Suse always had a pretty decent one as well.

    Aatube ,

    Ubuntu is still just one series of distros

    rollingflower ,

    It is also a lie as the installer doesnt know any percentages.

    But afaik Debian installer, Calamares, Fedora Anaconda and more all have loading bars

    ColdWater OP ,
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    Not just loading bar it’s everything about the aesthetic in the menu, logo on the top, installation steps on the side and loading bar on the middle just enough to fill the screen while not being too crowded or overwhelming

    qwesx ,
    @qwesx@kbin.social avatar

    And then there's the installation options that look and behave exactly like a regularly themed Qt application (which it probably is). Wonderful!
    Okay, I'm coming from Gentoo and Debian, cut me some slack, I'm easy to please regarding installers :-P

    zib ,

    No shame in that, I also get the warm fuzzies when I see a nice installer.

    MenacingPerson ,

    yeah, if I remember, they use something called libYUI which translates to a Qt application or TUI depending on requirements

    N0x0n ,

    Was just kidding 😁 Keep that feeling, it’s a great one ! I love to see other people enjoying such simple but powerful brain flooding dopamine ! That awwwwww moment is really enjoayble, for others and yourself !

    Hope you will have fun with openSUSE ! I’m also thinking to switch from Debian to OpenSUSE for my daily drive. Debian as server is fantastic, but got some quirks running it with backports and testing.

    Maybe a skill issue? Probably, but trying something different will give me the necessary boost to find out 😄

    TCB13 ,
    @TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

    No, no, this is the peak OS installation menu:

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/c09da0ea-76c0-437c-ae16-1c22c486050d.png

    😜

    banazir ,
    @banazir@lemmy.ml avatar

    Oh hey, I remember that screen. I have seen it many times. Many, many times. Oh God, so many times.

    shootwhatsmyname ,
    @shootwhatsmyname@lemm.ee avatar

    So, just to clarify, you’ve seen it many times?

    poinck ,

    It needed many reinstalls! So yes, many times, indeed.

    BeatTakeshi ,
    @BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world avatar

    Still more than you remember

    ColdWater OP ,
    @ColdWater@lemmy.ca avatar

    This one is second not OpenSUSE is still the best for me XD

    astraeus ,
    @astraeus@programming.dev avatar

    https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/content/images/2022/01/VirtualBox_archlinux-2022.01.01-x86_64_12_01_2022_18_50_39.png

    Cuntessera ,
    @Cuntessera@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Ironically, this one is better designed than their current one lmao.

    Guajojo ,

    Another old school, it’s very similar

    Resol ,
    @Resol@lemmy.world avatar

    I was genuinely about to say how the openSUSE installer looks incredibly similar to the Windows XP one

    TCB13 ,
    @TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

    There you go, peasants.

    Resol ,
    @Resol@lemmy.world avatar

    Everyone is nostalgic to XP so they decide to make part of a different operating system look very similar to it just for nostalgia sake

    TCB13 ,
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    Isn’t that ReactOS? :P

    Resol ,
    @Resol@lemmy.world avatar

    I completely forgot that even existed. This reply is now a downvote farm.

    barbara ,

    I also like that it installs the apps right after first boot in microos. That’s awesome. Unfortunately I like the image based system of fedora a tiny bit more.

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