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Stop using gitlab.com for projects - Credit card info required for new registrations

If your IP (and possible your browser) looks “suspicious” or has been used by other users before, you need to add additional information for registration on gitlab.com, which includes your mobile phone number and possibly credit card information. Since it is not possible to contribute or even report issues on open source projects without doing so, I do not think any open source project should use this service until they change that.

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uis ,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

docs.gitlab.com/ee/…/identity_verification.html

What the fuuuuu

nyan ,

Tried to register with gitlab three times some months back to file a bug against qemu. It rejected my registration silently every time (as in, it appeared to take it but never sent a confirmation email, not even one that got mistaken for spam). I gave up on filing the bug.

Pantherina ,

Discourse, Git* and more really need federated search.

It is already hard getting Contributors for projects, even more if you are on some random selfhosted server that nobody finds and everyone needs to create a new account for.

platypus_plumba ,

Good idea

bruhduh ,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

Gitea but integrated in fediverse

Speiser0 ,

forgefed.org

Pantherina ,

Cool!

Daz ,
@Daz@lemmy.ml avatar

I hate that projects name themselves “fed” as that word is permanently associated with, well, feds.

“Welcome to the Fediverse, we got pigs of all kinds”

ad_on_is ,
@ad_on_is@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe it’s just me, but I never liked GitLab in the first place. The UI is just awful to me. Searching through issues, before posting a new one, is just a pita.

tehbilly ,

I last used it seriously like 7 or 8 years ago and it was fine. I put it on par with GitHub at the time. The ability to self host for free without too much trouble also really affected my position on it.

I haven’t really enjoyed the few times I’ve had to use it in the last couple of years, though.

jimbolauski ,

The best part of the Gitlab UI is when it gets upgraded and you have to relearn how to find everything.

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

What, did they source their developers from blender?

FedFer ,

Blender actually improved its UI though

ad_on_is ,
@ad_on_is@lemmy.world avatar

You mean GIMP, right?!

Imho, Blender really deserves to be treated with more respect. They’re one of the few ones offering a great product for free. Sure, it might seem a bit overwhelming, but so are most of these 3D programs. It’s just a matter of getting used to… but GIMP, booy oh boy

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

About 10 years ago I decided I was going to pick up blender and learn it. No big deal, I used to be really good in radiant so I should be able to catch up. this shouldn’t be that strange. I’ll just pick up a YouTube video how to get started. Just click here click there go to this menu and select that.

Huh, the menu’s not even there. I go start digging around oh they moved at this point revision. Okay fine. Now everything I look up needs to have that exact point revision. It started out fine I was able to find tutorials starting in the exact version that I needed, but then I started needing more specific tutorials working with non-manifold objects crap like that. Well lo and behold somebody hasn’t covered every point revision in blender for every problem I encountered. Trying to find a video on how to do a certain action or even what the action is called now is potluck.

I couldn’t even buy a book or download a tutorial series from a previous version because even point releases at that time were night and day apart.

On The other hand I won’t try to tell you that gimp isn’t a hot mess but it’s got maybe a hundred options 25 of which are the ones I really need to use on a regular basis, and although their locations change and the shapes of the icons the names of them in the menus they’re in don’t move around that much. Blender on the other hand, there’s just s*** all over the place.

I appreciate that it might have gotten better at this point I don’t have the time anymore.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT ,

Pita = Pain in the ass

BlanK0 ,

This is wild 💀

mvirts ,

No worries, gitlab is a trash Ruby on rails app anyway 😹

JK I do love gitlab, sad to see the corporate takeover. What features dont you get with the foss version? Can’t figure it out amongst the marketing cruft. Seems like it would be relatively easy to build another hosted gitlab provider.

So why does gulab need to kyc anyway? And if it’s a legal requirement, won’t GitHub do the same?

LeFantome ,

Is KYC a thing outside finance?

ChallengeApathy ,

It will be if digital ID rolls out with CBDCs.

Eiim ,

This isn’t KYC, it’s “prove you’re a human”.

mvirts ,

I guess gitlab is just the first to realize that captchas don’t cut it anymore

liliumstar ,

Like others, I had an account before this was implemented. I have a couple projects on there, also mirrored to self hosted gitea. Have had people refuse/unable to contribute to the gitlab project due to the kyc requirement, so I’m thinking I will migrate to codeberg soon.

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

Do what should I use?

OsrsNeedsF2P ,

If you want people to contribute to your project, Github is by far the best. If you’re off Github, it reduces your visibility by a lot.

evranch ,

Even just for reporting issues, anyone who is capable of identifying a bug is likely to have a GitHub account. Not so for Gitlab or others.

Then you’ve got seamless integration with Vscode as a bonus, it’s more like why would you not use GitHub unless you have a specific problem with them.

ALostInquirer ,

Then you’ve got seamless integration with Vscode as a bonus, it’s more like why would you not use GitHub unless you have a specific problem with them.

Does GitHub still only permit one account? I remember looking into it awhile back and not wanting to get things mixed up between personal/professional arrangements and the one account policy put me off.

alexdeathway ,
@alexdeathway@programming.dev avatar

congratulations then, it supports multiple accounts, haven’t used it yet though.

bizdelnick ,

I was asked to report bugs by people without github account several times, so you are wrong.

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Even just for reporting issues, anyone who is capable of identifying a bug is likely to have a GitHub account. Not so for Gitlab or others.

If you really want to, you can add a “log in with Github” button to your Gitlab server: docs.gitlab.com/ee/integration/github.html

Landless2029 ,

Truth

bizdelnick ,

You can host your project anywhere you want, setup mirroring to github and drop a link in its description. So you’ll have github visibility and won’t depend on github. Addiitional repo backup is a bonus.

fruitycoder ,

100% mirroring is the way to go.

wewbull ,

codeberg.org

pastermil ,

What’s your experience like with this? I’m seriously considering Gitlab & Github alternative.

marty_relaxes ,

Codeberg the community is very nice with strong focus on the right to privacy and free software, which I feel reflects itself especially in a lot of copylefted projects on the service.

Codeberg the collaboration platform is in my epxerience by the simple fact of critical mass quite a bit less ‘collaborative’ for many projects. There’s a couple projects with tight communities, and a lot of single dev projects with maybe a drive-by PR.

Codeberg the software runs on Gitea (/Forgejo) which is wonderful software - slim, simple enough to get everything done without being in the way.

There’s efforts to open up the gitea/forgejo forges to federation, which would be a very neat way to fix the collaboration issue and is - in my view - the way forward for open, decentralized collaborative software creation. It’s still quite a ways off (especially from bring mature enough to be used day-to-day) but when it gets there platforms like codeberg will be the first to adopt it and to also benefit massively from it.

wewbull ,

I don’t use codeberg much, but I have my own instance of Forgejo so I’m using the same software. My experience is that it’s really nice. The feeling is one of having what you need and no bloat.

thejevans ,

I would LOVE to switch to codeberg for work, but my work requires that all data be hosted in the US, so I recently pitched GitLab as an alternative to GitHub, even though it’s not perfect.

zygo_histo_morpheus ,

For work gitlab is fine, I’m sure your company can get the accounts verified for example. At least it’s not microsoft

ReakDuck ,

Wait. Wtf does it need to be US specifically? So the goverment has full access to the data or what?

Andrenikous ,

Probably so other governments don’t have full access.

ReakDuck ,

Well, EU or some countries like Switzerland dont allow themselves access to the service.

peasntanks ,

Export controls or legal compliance, most likely. Export controls because the code may be a protected technology, or compliance because the company doesn’t have gdpr or some other legal framework.

wewbull ,

In which case, get your code off the net and use Forgejo to get your own instance, same as codeberg. If hosting location is a real issue, bring it home.

thejevans ,

That’s eventually the plan, but I expect that process to take on the order of a year, unfortunately.

uis ,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

git clone and say that code is on your computer

uis ,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Or sourcehut

caseyweederman ,

I have no idea what everyone is on about.
Host your own git repo. It’s trivial and built into git and you make every decision about it from the ground up.
For example you don’t need to worry about registrations or what country it’s hosted in because the country it’s hosted in is your hard drive (or your company’s server rack).
Then use whatever front-end you want and point it at that private repo.
It’s only mildly more fiddly to set up and grant access, but it sure doesn’t ask you for a credit card and it sure doesn’t get scraped to train LLMs (unless you make it internet-facing and don’t protect it).
If you want to stay close to the core experience but still have a decent interface, check out (heh) gitweb and git daemon. Though I wouldn’t mind if gitweb had some of the fancier features, like the “download as zip”/“git clone path/to/branch copy-to-clipboard” buttons.

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

It is not trivial to host a git forge with modern features that allows easy collaboration between anonymous users all over the world.

caseyweederman ,

Git forge?
Just git. Git command line.
It’s about as trivial as setting up an Apache server.
The anonymous users part is maybe two lines in a config file.
The features are almost entirely part of the front-end, which is entirely up to each individual end-user.
Do you have a web server? You’re already 95% of the way there. A workplace was mentioned in other replies, which likely means this infrastructure is already in place.

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

So no PRs. No Issues. No CI/CD. That doesn’t work for 99% of actively developed open source projects with >10 devs

uis ,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

I know project that is developed by 10.00000001 devs

Eiim ,

The difficulty of sending patches or reporting issues to the Linux kernel is a feature for them, as it keeps less-experienced devs from wasting maintainer’s time with garbage requests. For most projects it’s a bug.

uis ,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Linus accepted patch from literal child. But to be fair it was documentation style patch from one of kernel dev’s kid.

uis ,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Start mailing list in i2p

ProdigalFrog , (edited )

Drew DeVault created sourcehut.org, which may be worth considering.

Also @thejevans

thejevans ,

Looks cool. Their hosted service is still in Alpha, so I doubt my work would go for it.

ProdigalFrog ,

Ahh, I didn’t notice that, bugger.

delirious_owl , (edited )
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

I stopped since they put a broken cloudflare config in front of it that puts me in an infinite loop so I can’t ever log in

casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer ,

I created a GitLab account long before they implemented this, but never used it. Went to post an issue related to self-hosted GitLab on their issue tracker, and it told me my account was banned. I wrote an email to support and they essentially said “an automated system identified your account as a bot and banned you during an account clean up some years ago to cut back on malicious users”. I informed them that this was not at all reasonable, as I’ve never even posted anything on any GitLab account, and that I would be advising my organization to never pay for any GitLab product or service unless legal writes up the contract terms, because I have no faith in them as a vendor.

Seriously, fuck GitLab. And if anyone from that org wants to discuss this with me, they can pipe their email to /dev/null

progandy ,

That is regrettably not too unusual. Many platforms deactivate / ban empty accounts that were inactive for a long time. I guess “aging” accounts before use is something not too uncommon for bots.

p03locke ,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Stop telling me what to do! You’re not my mom.

soggy_kitty ,

Don’t be so sure about that my son

yianiris ,
@yianiris@kafeneio.social avatar

Funny you mentioned it, till very recently they needed validation by android or i-phone app, assuming all linux/FOSS programmers had one.

Beyond that anonymity becomes impossible for phone registrations.

Gitlab is NOT free software, and neither is GitTea, but Forgejo IS

codeberg and git.disroot use Forgejo not gitea

https://codeberg.org/api/swagger

@vivi

Ohhh.. github is just git.microsoft

bizdelnick ,

Gitlab EE is not a free software but gitlab CE is. Gitea is a free software too. However if you want to stay free, you have to self-host your instances. Even if it is forgejo.

yianiris ,
@yianiris@kafeneio.social avatar

A for profit corporation will never produce anything truly free, it is all done in the name of profit

IBM's systemd Qt Oracle Google Facebook are all multinational corporations.

Nothing BUT free, they are all dictatorships for the people they employ.

@bizdelnick

bizdelnick , (edited )

I prefer to follow strict definitions when possible. OSI open source definition and FSF definition of free software in this case.

Also I’m not ready to throw away all software that companies you mentioned conributed to. Did you do this?

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Also I’m not ready to throw away all software that companies you mentioned conributed to. Did you do this?

If you want to avoid software from Google and Meta, you’ll need to avoid pretty important parts of the Linux kernel as well as pretty much anything that does hashing or compression (given Google’s involvement with WebP and Brotli, and Meta’s involvement with btrfs, zstd, xxhash64, cgroup2, etc)

bizdelnick ,

Not only kernel, but also many widely used libraries. Including compiler runtimes.

uis ,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Qt wasn’t. It was bought mnc. And now the only reason Qt hasn’t enshittify itself is deal with KDE that can relicense Qt under any license when Qt enshittifies itself.

corsicanguppy ,

till

'til

jetster735180 ,

They been doing this for years. Here is a GitLab forum post about it.

As a gitlab user myself, I prefer gitlab over anything else because of their CI/CD. The free compute units run instantly now, no more queues orwaiting. A couple years ago, my pipelines would timeout after 3 hours.

vivi OP ,

That post is only in regards to the CI feature. But today, even basic registration requires personal identification. You cannot even report bugs on open source projects without

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Screenshot: removed/XsfcfHf/gitlab.png

For LW users after scumbags used image hosters to spread childprn:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/bd0b8426-9ab8-42ac-ae74-3b7c344d10e1.png

uis ,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

I probably will move to other inctance eventually. Probably to lavander.

db2 , (edited )

Gitlab when they successfully created artificial dependency and can then demand money for even the most basic of services:

Sid Sijbrandij

Edit: that’s the owner of gitlab ffs

cypherpunks ,
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar

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