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solrize , in Boot Partitions on Same SSD with 2 Distros

Pick a distro you like and single boot it. If you want to mess with alternate ones, run them in VMs.

LeFantome , in What's the best light desktop env to install in a Linux distro?

Your biggest problem is going to be the 4 GB of RAM. Saving a few hundred megs on the DE will help but not much. If you run a web browser ( and I cannot imagine using a computer without one ) that RAM is going to fill up fast.

Honestly, I would use a 32 bit distro on that hardware.

Q4OS with Trinity, Antix, Adelie, and DSL are all pretty decent options.

ryannathans ,

Zram

possiblylinux127 ,

What’s wrong with 4Gb? It works fine for light usage and you can enable swap to a SSD for when you want something a little memory hungry like a lot of tabs.

LeFantome ,

I used a system with 6 GB daily until not long ago. I had to constantly restart my web browsers to reclaim memory. RAM was a constant issue. A 32 bit distro made things a lot better.

Max_P , (edited ) in Boot Partitions on Same SSD with 2 Distros
@Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me avatar

There shouldn’t be any issues with that. Most distros handle “install side by side” situations out of the box.

Data partition probably doesn’t matter. Nobara might use snapshots for updates so you can rollback, not sure, but it also shouldn’t horribly break things for /home.

The thing btrfs does well is root and home can be the same partition, but different subvolumes. Technically you can even have multiple distros on a single btrfs partition by means of subvolumes, so there’s no unusable wasted space.

I would do btrfs, Mint won’t care about the filesystem having more features than it needs, and there’s so many advantages to btrfs.

E: I might leave homes separated and explicitly share some folders you want to keep in sync. Mint’s configurations could impact Nobara’s configurations and vice-versa. Especially if versions of things differ, maybe Nobara will upgrade some configs and make them unusable with older packages from Mint. You can just symlink your downloads and documents and whatever to a common shared data partition or subvolume dedicated to that use case.

Tixanou , in Which distro do you find the most visually appealing?

Garuda Linux looks very nice

nikaaa , in Boot Partitions on Same SSD with 2 Distros

You get only one boot partition (EFI partition) which contains the kernel and the initramfs for both operating systems. Then, you would create two partitions to hold the rest of each individual operating system.

Shared partitions can be ext4, but if they should be read-/writable by windows, I would recommend ntfs or exFAT.

Combateye OP ,

I have not used exFAT before, so I did some research and it appears that exFAT does not support permissions or ownership. This sounds like it might be a good option for preventing one OS from messing around with the shared files and causing problems in the other OS.

Is there anything I should know before trying exFAT or any potential issues with running certain types of files/programs in Windows (since it defaults to NTFS)?

nikaaa ,

If the disk is internal and only used by linux, you should 100% use ext4.

NTFS is what windows uses. exFAT is like really, really old file system that is only used because of its wide compatibility nowadays. USB-sticks use them, because they have to be compatible with any device where you couls potentially stick them in.

Synther OP , in what’s your thoughts on Linux and Windows…

For reference, when I saw this for the first time on Twitter. I thought it was a normal image, so I posted here be or your thoughts / opinions on Linux vs windows. Looking back, I noticed that it’s such a stupid infographic.

Synther OP ,

I didn’t fully see it as I thought it was standard Linux shit posting, turns out I’ve probably gotta open my eyes next time 😳

Max_P , in what does this mean for Flatpak?
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Flatseal: well that’s normal, it can’t control Flatpak’s access controls if it is itself sandboxed. Even if it was sandboxes, it could just grant itself everything.

For Xournal: it’s probably because it doesn’t support portals or whatever, so it can’t use the open file dialog to get permissions. So it needs to be able to get to your files somehow to open them.

In both cases, it just means its permissions model is more like regular applications you’d get from your package manager. If you install Xournal with apt/dnf/pacman it also won’t be sandboxed.

The point of sandboxing is you can run applications you don’t trust too much, or significantly reduce the blast radius if say, your browser gets breached: then it has another barrier to overcome to reach anything other than the browser’s own data. The lack of sandboxing doesn’t inherently imply the app is evil or will hack you. It just means it doesn’t have the extra protection around it. So like, probably don’t open sketchy PDFs in it, but I wouldn’t stop using the app solely because it lacks sandboxing.

rotopenguin ,
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I think the problem with xournal is that it cannot ask a file portal to give it access to two related files at once. “I want to let the user pick foo.pdf.xournal, and also give me access to foo.pdf”. So the next best thing is to give it the “access any damned file” permission, and let Xournal grab whatever it wants. You get the same problem with video players - you could take away their permission to open-any-file, but then they won’t be able to pick up a related subtitle file.

Telorand , in what does this mean for Flatpak?

No, you don’t need to be worried. For example, Flatseal is a program to manage other flatpaks. This means that, by design, it needs to be able to grant flatpaks certain permissions that may expose them to system services they need to operate correctly.

One user mentioned that these new warnings aren’t particularly helpful, because they don’t give a good explanation of what or why, and they just foster anxiety in users who just want to install an otherwise reputable flatpak.

I don’t know anything about xournal++, but I would imagine it’s also reputably safe, and somebody else can verify for sure.

tmpod ,
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Yeah Xournal++ is probably the best hand-written note taking and PDF annotation program available on Linux, it’s pretty well known. The system settings permission is to honor some global settings you might have enabled, and the file system access is so you can save and open stuff from anywhere, I assume.

andreax ,

Sorry for the off topic, what’s the best device to use xournal++ in your opinion? MS Surface? I guess you have used some hand-written note taking apps before since you wrote this, so you’re more experienced than me for sure!

tmpod ,
@tmpod@lemmy.pt avatar

Never owned a Surface, so can’t comment on that, but I’m very happy with my One by Wacom (not to mix with Wacom One :p). It’s fairly cheap as far as these types of tablets go, it’s very responsive (I have 144Hz displays and it’s so nice to use), has a nice sueface roughness, it’s plug-and-play on Linux and has 0 maintenance (no batteries to swap).

What I like with my setup is that, contrary to traditional writing on paper, I can sit properly, looking forward, avoiding some bad neck and back pain I usually get otherwise.

andreax ,

Oh thank you for all the information you shared! I didn’t know this company. So this is a tablet without a display. I never used one, it’s difficult to start using it?

I’ve been given a quite old tablet pc (almost 10yo), it has its own display and hardware, just like the MS Surface, but from acer. It’s very uncomfortable to use since it has only 32GB of storage space and it has a 32bit cpu; furthermore, it has no pen and the physical keyboard you can plug to it doesn’t work anymore. A lot of flaws, right?

Despite this, Windows was decently optimized for this tablet, so it was in some way usable. Recently, I decided to give Linux a try in this tablet pc. I tried Zorin OS that has a slightly modified version of GNOME, and the touch experience (in gnome) was really bad, windows 10 GUI was a lot more optimized for that hardware. So my other question is: what distro do you use on your computer?

Having the tablet separeted from the computer is maybe a better choice. I don’t know, maybe you could share your thoughts on this, I would really appreciate. Thanks!

tmpod , (edited )
@tmpod@lemmy.pt avatar

(sorry, clicked Enter by accident and ended up posting this half-way 😅)

So this is a tablet without a display. I never used one, it’s difficult to start using it?

Yeah, it isn’t a tablet in the usual sense of the word (i.e. it isn’t a smart tablet), it’s more like a tracking surface. The idea is that you use the little pen on it and the whole surface is mapped to your screen. There are differently sized devices, for different precision needs, much like A5 Vs A2 vs A3 etc. I have the medium one and I’m quite satisfied by it, but I had a professor that made class notes with the smaller model and it worked wonders too. Had mine not been offered to me, I’d would be more inclined to buying the small one.

They may be a bit weird to use at first, but I find that with you get the gist of it fairly quickly. I’ve had some colleagues try mine and while some got it faster and some had to spend a bit more time with it, they all got decent at it in a relatively short amount of time. I’m so used to it now that I make no conscious effort beyond what I’d do for traditional writing. I loose on a non-backlit surface and some of the physical pleasure of writing with true pen and paper (though the pen tip and tablet surface have a nice texture), but I gain incredibly productive superpowers in the form of undo, copy-paste, scaling and rotating, theming (love the white on near-black gray handwritten notes) and more (xournal++, for example, lets you embed images and even voice notes!). The pen even has nice pressure sensitivity, so you don’t loose much expressiveness with your strokes.

A lot of flaws, right?

Yeah, for this purpose, I’d say that device is not very well suited. The small version of One by Wacom is $40, which I consider fairly cheap for its quality and the value it can provide. In case that’s too expensive, you may try the second hand market, I suppose.
Your Acer tablet may still be useful for other purposes, like a Plex/Jellyfin client or similar. For good note taking, even if the device functions decently well with Windows, I’m unsure if the touch sensors are good enough (even if they were originally, they may have degraded performance now, not sure) for a proper experience. Before I tried this pen tablet, I was quite skeptical of digital note taking, but now I love it, and it’s mostly due to its incredible responsiveness.

So my other question is: what distro do you use on your computer?

I use Manjaro (based on ArchLinux) with KDE Plasma (now on version 6.1), though I use no touch interface, it’s just a regular laptop onto which I connect this pen tablet via USB. For good touch support, you should look for the mobile variants of GNOME and KDE, namely Phosh and Plasma Mobile, as those are more optimized for that sort of devices. You should still be able to connect Wacom tablets and similar (there are drivers in the kernel itself).

Overall though, I agree with your last sentence, I think having the note taking tablet separated from the laptop may be better because you can just keep using your daily driver computer and, when needed, plug a fairly cheap but quality tablet and get a good handwriting experience and improved posture (very crucial to me)!

Happy to discuss this further!

andreax ,

Thank you so much for this detailed explanation! It’s very clear and you’re so good expressing yourself! And don’t worry for your post accidentally being posted half-way, it happened to me too, in fact there’s a deleted comment in this thread, for your same reason 😂

Anyway, I definitely must try this tablet. I am skeptical as you were, but I must give it a shot since you’ve had such a nice and productive experience. I might find out a store where I can try it or, alternatively, I might ask a friend of mine, who likes to draw, because she maybe has a tablet like this (that you connect to the computer).

Thank you again for your suggestions!

In order to avoid to spam too much here, may I contact you privately?

tmpod ,
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Make sure to check the return policy for Wacom or whichever reseller you end up going with. Some allow you to return electronic devices (if in good state, of course) up to 30 days or so after the purchase. If that isn’t possible, you can always try to resell it in the second-hand market and make most of your money back, there are plenty of websites for that (from global ones like ebay to regional platforms; I tend to prefer the latter). But if your friend has one of these (or similar) give it a try!

And yeah, feel free to reach out to me via Matrix or e-mail! You can also try other platforms listed in my website, but I don’t check those as often.

jjhanger , in Which distro do you find the most visually appealing?

Debian with the Awesome WM. I’m biased because that’s what I use.

scytale , in What's the best light desktop env to install in a Linux distro?

Technically not a DE, but I like plain openbox.

CarlCook ,

Wasn‘t there a crunchbang project putting this nicely together with debian? I remember it fondly, but that is centuries ago…

MyNameIsRichard ,
@MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml avatar

Bunsen Labs and Crunchbang ++ carry that flag now.

OopsAllTwix ,

There’s also Mabox, Archcraft, and Arco.

azvasKvklenko , in What's the best light desktop env to install in a Linux distro?

LXQt, XFCE Or a window manager, they’re all lightweight.

phanto , in What's the best light desktop env to install in a Linux distro?

I have a thumb drive with Mint Mate installed on it and it runs fine on a 4gb i5 - 3rd gen.

captain_aggravated , in Which distro do you find the most visually appealing?
@captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’ve seen Gnome spiffed up to a level of polish I’d expect from an Apple commercial. I hate using it, but some folks get it looking nice.

jaypatelani , in What's the best light desktop env to install in a Linux distro?
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Moksha Desktop environment Bodhi Linux

jaypatelani ,
@jaypatelani@lemmy.ml avatar

Or Fedora Budgie Edition

stoy , in What's the best light desktop env to install in a Linux distro?

If you are still using X, get Fluxbox, very lightweight, requires some config, but that is fairly easy.

Pacmanlives ,

+1 for Fluxbox!

It’s such an underrated WM

stoy , (edited )

Yeah, unfortunately it seems like it will not get a Wayland version though…

Pacmanlives ,

Yeah……… I wish someone would port it or come out with something similar. Been using Blackbox/Fluxbox since the 2000’s

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