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autotldr Bot , in Linux's New DRM Panic "Blue Screen of Death" In Action

This is the best summary I could come up with:


After being talked about for years of DRM panic handling and coming with a “Blue Screen of Death” solution for DRM/KMS drivers, Linux 6.10 is introducing a new DRM panic handler infrastructure for being able to display a message when a panic occurs.

With Linux 6.10 the initial DRM Panic code has landed as well as wiring up the DRM/KMS driver support for the SimpleDRM, MGAG200, IMX, and AST drivers.

For those curious what DRM Panic can look like in action, Red Hat engineer Javier Martinez Canillas shared a photo of the DRM Panic “Blue Screen of Death” in action.

A BeaglePlay single board computer was used and Javier posted to Mastodon of an example implementation:

It could be extended in the future with some operating systems having looked at QR codes for kernel error messages and other efforts for presenting more technical information while still being user-friendly.

On Linux 6.10+ with platforms having the DRM Panic driver support, this “Blue Screen of Death” functionality can be tested via a route such as echo c > /proc/sysrq-trigger.


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just_another_person , in New PostmarketOS Release: v24.06: The One With Over 250 Devices

Guess I better dig out that old Nexus 7 I have somewhere.

murph ,

I’m trying to install it on my Nexus 7, and having a tough time. I’d like to know how you make out.

just_another_person ,

Well F it then. Not worth my time 😂

Thanks for saving me the effort.

murph ,

Not the reaction I was hoping for , I was hoping you might have better luck than me.

just_another_person ,

What issues are you having?

murph ,

Been following the wiki, but when I try to flash for root partition, I get “data too large” . I’ve tried to wipe everything with TWRP, but it still shows the same error. Not sure how to proceed next.

muhyb ,

You probably need a repartition. Can’t link right now but check for “Nexus 7 flox repartition”, assuming yours is 2013 Wi-Fi edition (code name flo).

murph ,

Interesting, thanks. I followed a few links, and it looks like that might do it. It’ll have to wait until I have a bit of time to sit down though.

muhyb ,

Glad you found it easily. It’s not hard to do but you need to follow the guide exactly and be cautious. Unless it changed, the script was taking care of almost everything as I remember.

Good luck!

boredsquirrel , in Ubuntu App Center adds a UI for installing third-party deb files

I mean of course it is strange to not have that feature.

But guys please dont install apps from random .deb files! It is extremely insecure, may never be updated and is just bad

DmMacniel ,

What if the deb is from a GitHub repository that matches the MD5 hash?

boredsquirrel ,

If the hash and the binary come from the same download location, how does this improve anything?

Also always nice is when there is a PGP signature but the key cannot be found anywhere.

fossphi ,

It’s not just about the verification/reproducibility, these random ass .deb files sometimes don’t have proper dependency information and/or repository support. So it may work for now and might stop working on the future when some library upgrades on your system. Or even worse, they may fucking block system library upgrades leaving you insecure at worst and out of support at best.

boredsquirrel , in KDE login theme cannot be loaded. Please help I'm a Linux noob and just want my login screen to be pretty.

You are on Plasma 6 and seemingly all SDDM themes are currently broken.

Use the default theme and try to find ones that work.

kenkenken , in Linux's New DRM Panic "Blue Screen of Death" In Action
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It is not informative yet, but I like that it’s blue. It’s a quite recognizable color. Windows made it recognizable by having a lot of BSODs. People are asking why it couldn’t be just black, but with non-black BSOD one can recognize it instantly without reading the text.

ylai OP ,

Just for reference, a few years back, (ex-Microsoft) David Plummer had this historical dive into the (MIPS) origin of the blue color, and how Windows is not blue anymore: youtu.be/KgqJJECQQH0?t=780

kenkenken ,
@kenkenken@sh.itjust.works avatar

Oh, thanks! I don’t know much about the current state of Windows.

princessnorah ,
@princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Hey @Thorned_Rose the last chapter of this video is called redscreen, are you David Plummer? lol

mactan , in Ubuntu App Center adds a UI for installing third-party deb files

it’s so annoying that these repositories are so ancient that debs are necessary at all . but it comes in handy for things like lutris, which Ubuntu and mint shipped a broken version for at least a year

Vitaly , in Kubuntu 24.04 - Sound output jumps really high after about 5-10 minutes
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Try reinstalling pipewire or pulseaudio

Kronusdark OP ,
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I just installed last week, could that really be messed up already?

Vitaly ,
@Vitaly@feddit.uk avatar

You can always try, it fixed my issue when I couldn’t hear anything on my laptop yesterday(I run pop os)

Kronusdark OP ,
@Kronusdark@lemmy.world avatar

just did pipewire, we shall see.

Kronusdark OP ,
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its been 2 hours and no issues… looks like it might have solved it. 🤞

Kronusdark OP ,
@Kronusdark@lemmy.world avatar

So long-term it did not resolve my issue. I also tried updating pipewire using PPA repositories. still have the issue.

verstra , in Linux's New DRM Panic "Blue Screen of Death" In Action

What’s DRM in this context? Surely linux kernel doesn’t do digital rights management?

bishoponarope ,

Direct Rendering Manager

jinwk00 ,

Direct Rendering Manager. Part of Linux kernel to communicate with GPUs.

DmMacniel ,

Actually there is DRM in the kernel thanks to the HDMI blobs.

5714 ,

How do they handle the naming confusion?

potatopotato ,

Fuck HDMI. The committee makes doing custom hardware near impossible unless you’re a mega corp

Xephonian ,

It was made by Hollywood for Hollywood.

possiblylinux127 ,

DRM came before DRM

grue ,

Doesn’t matter; I still get triggered by it every time anyway.

fhein ,

It ought to be mandatory to write this out whenever talking about Linux. I’ve seen more than one person bash Linux in a public forum “because it has digital rights management built into the kernel” after they’ve misinterpreted some news headline.

spittingimage , in If I Use Windows, I Delete My Channel
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Why not the other way round? Delete your channel and if you can go a month without using Windows, recreate it.

avidamoeba , in Linux's New DRM Panic "Blue Screen of Death" In Action
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s beautiful. I assume they’ll dump the kernel oops log if there’s any.

julianh , in Linux's New DRM Panic "Blue Screen of Death" In Action

Of all the things to take from windows, this is one of the better ones. Especially if it gets more info in the future. For less tech-literate users, a screen like this is a lot better than a hard to read dump to a terminal.

possiblylinux127 ,

They should still include more debugging into.

Sekoia ,

I’d suggest some kind of “press this key to view debug information” text (or make it documented but not visible, to avoid people just pressing whatever button is written on the screen)

possiblylinux127 ,

Why? People aren’t idiots. If they don’t know what it means they can look it up or ask for help.

kitnaht ,

People aren’t idiots. If they don’t know what it means they can look it up or ask for help.

Flip that. People are idiots. If they don’t know what something means, they won’t look it up. Not Desktop Linux users today but, definitely normies if Linux ever comes on a system they buy in the future.

bastion ,

Because for the bulk of users, unless they are power users, all they need to know is that things didn’t work.

Things actually useful to have on the BSOD:

  • distro-specific instructions for submitting a bug report
  • option to reboot
  • option to show debug info
  • option to show a qr code that submits a bug report
  • and, if configured by the distro or system admin, debug info
possiblylinux127 ,

How are you going to use your computer when the kernel panics. That’s kind of the problem, it panicked. It would be nice if it rebooted after a minute or two

bastion ,

Any information given would obviously be for use with another device.

QR code, for example. These are instructions or information about the crash, not links (except the QR code, which would obviously be read by another device).

MondayToFriday ,

How would a kernel that has already crashed handle keypresses?

Sekoia ,

I’m not an OS dev, I have no idea how stuff this low-level works.

avidamoeba , in Ubuntu App Center adds a UI for installing third-party deb files
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

I can’t believe people construed the lack of this feature in a brand new software as bad Canonical want to kill deb! It’s a brand new software. Features need work. Either go and write them or wait for someone else to do it.

turbowafflz ,

That would definitely be valid for a smaller community supported distro like mint, but canonical is a big company that already has kind of a bad reputation for things like that so I think it was reasonable for people to complain

avidamoeba , (edited )
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

A big company eh? They’re about 20 times smaller than Red Hat. They very much depend on Debian and the larger FOSS community to get their OS built.

I’ve been on this train since 2004 and I’ve been paying attention. Not all but a lot of the flak they’ve been getting over the years has been based on misinformation and ignorance. But trying to get things objective and correct doesn’t make for a good flame war.

pop ,

I can’t believe people construed the lack of this feature in a brand new software as bad Canonical want to kill deb!

Most loud mouth open source enthusiasts are often toxic entitled choosing beggars. If any of their desires are not met, the project is dying or dead even though the statistics say otherwise.

Fork it and fix things you want to make it better?

No way bro. I want someone else to work on the feature I requested one year ago.

Aatube OP , (edited )

They removed installing another package that did this by default in the same version where they introduced the App Center. Ubuntu Software never handled installing third-party debs, gdebi did. And in the version where they introduced the App Center, they stopped bundling gdebi by default.

Also, the old behavior was that you double click on a deb file and App Center just hangs. This was shipped in the LTS.

avidamoeba ,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

This has been false for a while. The Ubuntu Software Center has been handling deb installs for a while on my machines. I just checked on my oldest machine - 20.04 - and the Ubuntu Software app launches on double clicking a deb file. I do not have gdebi installed. I don’t recall when it replaced gdebi, whether it was in 16.04, 18.04 or 20.04 but it’s definitely the case in 20.04. So check your info before getting worked up.

Archaeopteryx , in Alternative to Playonlinux
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I am using Lutris for Windows games (sometimes Windows applications, too) almost exclusively on my rig. It works perfectly fine.

kbal , in Linux's New DRM Panic "Blue Screen of Death" In Action
@kbal@fedia.io avatar

The kernel art department really failed us here. Instead of a blue screen of death we could've had, I don't know, literally any other colour. I'd have gone with the Puce Screen of Panic.

possiblylinux127 ,

How about black on white with a clear stack trace visible

drwho ,
@drwho@beehaw.org avatar

That would be far too helpful.

QuazarOmega ,

Puce Screen of Panic

That’s class

mindbleach ,

Guru Meditation red.

Alternately: yellow-and-black ASCII approximating Evangelion’s ALART.

possiblylinux127 , in Linux's New DRM Panic "Blue Screen of Death" In Action

They should make it black instead.

e8d79 ,

I would prefer purple.

possiblylinux127 ,

Maybe purple with yellow text

ryannathans ,

I would have gone with red… red = error

possiblylinux127 ,

That would make it just as hard to read. Black on white offers the most contrast

ryannathans ,

Gold on purple offers more iirc

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