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Janis , in Switch to Linux phone?

pinephone. but i just use it for fiddling around as too much stuff does not work.

reinar , in Format drive if wrong decryption key is prompted?
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good way to accidentally lose the data.

in case of any forensics your drive will be copied first and master will be not touched, any decryption attempts will be executed on copies - so kill switch is effectively useless.

yamapikariya , in Purism found a way to make its Linux phone even more expensive: meet the $2,199 Liberty Phone - Liliputing
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Lmao. At this point buy any android phone and just put a custom ROM on it.

JuxtaposedJaguar ,

For $1,800 I will personally install a custom ROM on your phone.

angrynomad ,

I think the appeal was supposed to be all drivers are open source. where as even with custom roms, you still have proprietary firmware blobs that must be updated by the manufacturer to prevent any exploits

fraenki , in Switch to Linux phone?
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Phones that run mainline Linux are seldom. The only ones that come to my mind are PinePhone Pro (outdated hardware, 400 bucks) and Librem 5 (also outdated hardware, incredibly expensive 1300$ !). If you are serious get the PinePhone Pro. But expect pitfalls because you can't just run Android apps.

Nextcloud is still the best option for self hosted cloud services.

delial , in Switch to Linux phone?
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Because phone manufacturers don’t open source their firmware, you probably won’t be able to get Linux on an off-the-shelf phone. (Please someone correct me if I’m wrong).

Your best bet, if you want to go down thus route, is to get the PinePhone Pro. It’s relatively affordable.

Before you try anything, think hard about your relationship with your phone and what you expect from it. Does work require you have an app installed? What kind of apps do you use regularly? You won’t have things like: CVS for meds, AA for flying, Steam for 2fa, Signal, Telegram, google maps, etc. Some you might be able to use their webapps, but the browser might be a bit sluggish because it’s the full desktop version. Firefox isnt fully mobile friendly. Battery life won’t be what you’re used to. Linux on the phone is just like your regular Linux, so you’ll have the stuff your used to from there, and you’ll having calling, sms, mms, and voicemail.

I have the PinePhone and the Librem 5, but I still use my android.

boonhet ,

There are a couple of phones that can run Linux. Oneplus 6 for an example. But most can’t indeed. PostmarketOS has a list of devices that their distro works on.

freedomenjoyer , in is there a Linux alternative to windows 10/11 that is similar?
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Linux mint is amazing for you, I personally would say its better than zorin

Cmar , in Purism found a way to make its Linux phone even more expensive: meet the $2,199 Liberty Phone - Liliputing

What’s not to like about a device sporting a 5 year old CPU paired with a 720p display and 4GB of RAM costing 2.2k usd?

Nuuskis , in Purism found a way to make its Linux phone even more expensive: meet the $2,199 Liberty Phone - Liliputing

This is a tragedy.

Justin ,
@Justin@apollo.town avatar

This is greed and insanity.

rodneyck , in Switch to Linux phone?
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You have to find a phone that is compatible with open source Linux Phone OS. Most of the OS websites give a listing of what phone make/model works. FYI, almost all the Google Pixel phones work.

Here are a few I am keeping an eye on when my Pixel 4a/5G stops getting updates from Google…this year. /

LineageOS/ GrapheneOS/ CalyxOS/ e.foundation/

Youtube videos and other websites are good sources on how to install, etc.

Roxxor ,

You're talking about Android (Linux) phones, and not GNU/Linux as stated in the question.

dan ,

LineageOS/ GrapheneOS/ CalyxOS/ e.foundation

Aren’t all of those Android derivatives?

I think Ubuntu Touch, or postmarketOS would be more in line with what OP is asking.

rodneyck ,
@rodneyck@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, they are Android derivities, but Android is basically Linux…runs off a linux kernel. If you want a pure linux system, I think there is a KDE platform for phones and Ubuntu (I think) but you can’t run regular Android Apps, do banking, etc. You are more open source, but limited in certain areas.

CookieJarObserver , in Purism found a way to make its Linux phone even more expensive: meet the $2,199 Liberty Phone - Liliputing
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Wtf is that phone, 2,2k is in no way justified.

ErKaf , in Purism found a way to make its Linux phone even more expensive: meet the $2,199 Liberty Phone - Liliputing

This is just ridiculous. $2200 for a phone with only 4GB Ram.

Zxmon , in is there a Linux alternative to windows 10/11 that is similar?

just go with something like fedora. It’ll be easy enough and you can do almost anything through graphical user interfaces.

russjr08 ,
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+1 to Fedora, and if you want a UI that is very close to Windows I’d recommend the KDE Spin of Fedora as well.

orthagonal , in Is it just me, or does NixOS almost feel like a different operating system from Linux?

Linux is a kernel. At the beginning, software, especially userland software mimicked Unix conventions. There is very little requiring that anything work the way it does, except for inertia and convention. As cloud native conventions gain steam, a lot of them are working their way backwards into things like Nix. Having spent some time working with things like K8s and Packet and cloud-init quite a bit, I welcome declarative instantiating and configuration at the OS level, at least for those use cases. Stuff like Ansible, Chef, Puppet, Salt etc have been the middleware between the legacy OS layer stuff and a declarative CM system, but they all have an absolute pile of complex scripts and tests to make sure that when you say “I want this package installed”, it knows how to do it correctly and safely on the target system. Using a leaner declarative model at the package level makes it a lot simpler to declare the desired state.

I am pretty bearish that it will ever see overwhelming adoption for desktop users, but I see it having a ton of relevance when you want to orchestrate a whole butt load of server instances

TheButtonJustSpins , in is there a Linux alternative to windows 10/11 that is similar?

I highly recommend trying Manjaro. I haven’t moved past Windows 7, so I can’t compare directly to Win 10/11, but it’s the only Linux distro I’ve found that was Close Enough™ to Windows to make it possible for me to switch.

Like any Linux, things aren’t going to Just Work™ as often as in Windows, but this is the closest I’ve gotten.

Mininux ,
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I recommend NOT using Manjaro, they have many issues, most described here: manjarno.snorlax.sh

for someone who wants an arch-based distro without tinkering too much there are other alternatives like endeavourOs, and I think Garuda too.

For someone who wants something that looks like windows, no need for Manjaro, just something with a desktop environment that looks like windows. I’d recommend Linux Mint, very simple to use (and for low end computers there is the XFCE edition), or distributions with KDE (fedora KDE, Kubuntu…) or maybe ZorinOS.

edit: also nobara Linux (based on fedora)may be good for games, they have a version that kinda feels like windows

teawrecks ,

I’ve been using Manjaro for a couple of years now on my desktop (with an Nvidia GPU). Their package situation is not great. Updating the Linux kernel and Nvidia drivers is a process separate from pamac that you have to just know to do, or one day X will break and now you have to figure out how to fix it.

On top of that, because they delay the release of non-aur repo packages for stability testing, but don’t delay aur, some aur packages will just break occasionally. I now manually install discord from their tar ball because of this.

Because of these little unnecessary quirks that you just have to know how to work around, I can’t recommend it for new Linux users, and honestly don’t recommend it to seasoned users either. I’m trying out endeavor OS on my laptop now and I think that is what I would recommend; but possibly only for more seasoned users because it’s arch. Might be more stable if you install the linux-lts package and remove linux.

knobbysideup ,

Like any Linux, things aren’t going to Just Work™ as often as in Windows, but this is the closest I’ve gotten.

Lol, that’s not a Linux thing, it’s a majaro thing.

Kimo , in is there a Linux alternative to windows 10/11 that is similar?

I would recommend that you check out Linux Mint. It is based on Ubuntu, but is in my experience easier to use out of the box.

They have a MATE version on their website.

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