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-spam- , in Migrating away from Fedora, looking for advice.
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In a similar situation. I've been looking at open suse tumble weed and endeavourOS.

Installed pop on my wife's computer last week and I'm pretty impressed, I'm not the biggest gnome fan though so I don't think it would be for me.

Wheeljack , in Migrating away from Fedora, looking for advice.

I think if you want meaningful recommendations, you have to say:

  • why you want to get away from Fedora
  • what you liked about Fedora that kept you there until now
  • what you hope you'd get from a new distro
  • any nonstarters that would keep you away from a distro

Without knowing those things, it's just going to be people proselytizing their favorite distros rather than suggesting one that will fit what you're looking for.

Desani , in Mission Center: A rust clone of the Windows Task Manager

Got this setup and running on my Steam Deck. Really really cool. Love how clean it looks.

passepartout , in Migrating away from Fedora, looking for advice.

Seems like we’re looking for the same thing, it’s a a shame.

I used Debian before, and I’m likely going back. Since Debian 12 uses the 6.1 Kernel, it’s new enough for me.

staticlifetime ,
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I used Debian full-time eons ago, but last time I tried in 2019, it was a dog of a desktop OS to me compared to Fedora. It works fine as a server, but it's simply not a great desktop.

wildbus8979 , in Linux phones

Define user-friendly…

PostmarketOS or Mobian

ANuStart , in Migrating away from Fedora, looking for advice.

I just installed Endeavour, and so far I like it because I didn't need to do anything tedious to get my wifi card.working

Starfish , in Which lightweight Linux Distribution with GUI would you recommend for an old Laptop ?

Mx Linux or Antix Linux. If you need more GUI and handholding try OpenSuse Leap

Tekchip , in Migrating away from Fedora, looking for advice.
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I'm going to throw my hat in the ring for Pop_OS. The company that maintains it is focused almost exclusively on desktop use so it excels at this better than many other distros that have kind of a split focus on all the things. Their power manager is the best in terms of laptop battery management if you're using a laptop. The distro is also flatpak focused. There's even a utility in startup apps by default called "Flatpak Transition" which checks for deprecated deb packages and lets you know if there's a Flatpak that satisfies it.

Updates seem to come fast but not as fast as a full rolling release. No major changes lately because, as others note, they're working on a HUGE change to the distro to make their own DE. Rumors are circling this might come with a re-base of the distro off Ubuntu. Unfounded as far as I know but it would make a lot of sense.

I've been running Pop on my desktop and laptop exclusively for going on a couple years now. Rock solid.

4L3moNemo , (edited ) in Migrating away from Fedora, looking for advice.

That’s your chance to turn away from rpm/RHEL distros and run without looking back. As last 20 years history shows, that branch of linux OS is either dying off on hands, leaving you without suport, either makes migration path complicated by a need to change distro. Like it was with centos +5…10 years, oh no … -> maybe fedora -> oh no … -> whatever whocares rpm pop/rocky/alma name it … Thats it, beat it, no more this shit.

deb or any other kind linux is a way to go.

4L3moNemo ,

I regred for still having to suport several old centos servers during the last decade. Still regret of having to do lots of co-hosted old projects migrations from one of these – for lost time, money.

Have never regreted for any debian based one during the last 20 years. Have switched desktops ~10 years ago too. Before, been hardcore rpm distros fan – desktop: fedora, later suse; servers: centos, sometimes fedora. Lucky to have used deb distros for servers too, that made at least part of the bussiness stay stabile.

pgetsos ,
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There is always (Open)SUSE in that branch as well

4L3moNemo , (edited )

Argh, tired of that rpm’ers shit – paths differ, config locations differ, you got to learn relearn on each swich again.

As for deb distros, they been for me more stable in that concern – life long know-how reusability, muscle memory, old notes of shell snipets still valid. Decade old servers, current ones, LTS (long term support) desktop distro or last dev edition don’t difer much from point of view of fs organization and if differ at anything these are small evolutionary changes. My main argument reusability of know-how and “muscle memory” between desktop and servers and during the years, and growing reusable know-how during the years on top of that.

BlueSquid0741 , in why did you switch?

Windows xp was really bad, and a little thing called Ubuntu was gaining traction. So I guess just curiosity for what else was out there.

Prunebutt , in why did you switch?

I switched back in 2005 (I think), because Windows XP didn’t have the drivers for being installed on an S-ATA drive and SUSE could be installed without any hassle. I feel very old.

JustARegularNerd ,

My dad always tells me about how it drove him insane for days that Windows XP couldn’t detect the HDD, but it showed up totally fine in BIOS. He ended up taking it to a computer shop, and the bastards didn’t even tell him about the F6 floppy (instead they charged him double what was quoted because their techs had to ‘learn how to do it’).

It was only because they somehow even screwed that up, what should have been a simple setup of Windows XP, and he had to reinstall, that he finally learned from the internet that he needed the F6 floppy.

MyNameIsIgglePiggle ,

Ha! I ran a little computer shop for 6 years starting in 2008 and never knew about the f6 floppy until today

Well TIL

JustARegularNerd ,

Yeah, it was nicknamed the F6 floppy because Windows XP setup would say “Press F6 to load a SCSI driver” and you would hit that, select the driver from your floppy, and continue setup.

I’ve even seen vendor’s websites call it F6 Driver because the unofficial name was so ubiquitous

MyNameIsIgglePiggle ,

To be fair I remember that prompt, and if I was playing around with some fancy new HDD configuration and the customer bought in a job as “install windows because I can’t even” the ball would have dropped on the first go and I would have worked it out pretty fast I reckon. No way I would have jacked up the price on your dad.

JustARegularNerd ,

Yeah, I work at a (much more legitimate) computer shop and we wouldn’t have up charged on that either. What we quote is what we quote, even if it blows out to 10 hours instead of 1, that’s on us not on the customer.

That computer shop my Dad went to, he learned afterwards from study mates that the shop had done that to multiple people for various different jobs, and they’re constantly changing names but I’m pretty sure it’s the same business running even today.

echo , in Migrating away from Fedora, looking for advice.

Any specific reason why you’d like to move away from Fedora? It’s an amazing distro, all things considered.

Codename_goose OP ,
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Don’t get me wrong. I love Fedora, but with the things they’ve done recently, I really don’t think what I want from an OS and RH wants are the same anymore. I’d prefer to separate from them while I have the opportunity before I’m invested to the point of staying because it’s too hard to migrate.

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  • sadreality ,

    I am a regarded linux user but my understanding is that they cutting ability of the community to package certain sections from RHEL

    Raphael ,
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    When someone tells you Fedora is

    completely independent from redhat.

    You ignore them.

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  • Raphael ,
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    There is context, you just need to step outside of your rock and see the rest of the posts at /c/linux

    There are MULTIPLE threads touching the subject, in the front page. Stop being so lazy.

    ch1cken , (edited )

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  • Raphael ,
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    And fedora is a community project, i don’t see why it should be boycotted for redhat’s actions, people don’t seem to be against rocky/alma?

    Read the

    MULTIPLE threads touching the subject, in the front page.

    Also I was using bold and all caps for emphasis, would you appreciate it more if I just repeated it instead?

    There are multiple, I repeat, multiple, I repeat, multiple threads touching the subject, in the front page

    Also multiple videos on youtube if you’d like to educate yourself, which you clearly don’t.

    Raphael ,
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    HHAHAHAHHAHA

    sadreality ,

    Do you live under a rock?

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  • tubbadu ,

    All the red hat turmoil, there are plenty of posts here on lemmy

    NoRecognition84 , in Migrating away from Fedora, looking for advice.

    Pop OS is not a bad choice. Only thing about it is the version of Gnome it has is a little old and it will stay that way until they come out with their own Rust-based DE.

    sadreality ,

    What's the time line on that?

    NoRecognition84 ,

    Iirc they said around the time of the next LTS release. So 24.04.

    DniMam , (edited )

    Yeah, the current gnome outclass PopOs since they are working on Cosmic, the rust DE.

    Their blog talk about cosmic a lot. Imho, it will be released the next month as beta public. Then they will release it next year.

    blog.system76.com/…/cosmic-de-tiling-redesign-and…

    yousirname , (edited ) in Has anyone used or contributed to OpenStreetMap?

    I did a few small corrections in the area I live. I removed a public road that wasn’t a road but a private paved path. I got heavily criticized in a PM by another member for doing so. Haven’t bothered doing anything since

    Editing since people are correction me. Perhaps path is the wrong word to have used. Driveway would probably be more suitable.

    monobot ,

    Long ago I started my city when there was nothing.

    I did poor job, but I mapped streets in parts of the city I lived until then.

    One or two years ago people fixed my mistakes and mapped the rest of the city. I consider it huge success, so just start and others will come and add more details.

    It was great feeling, calming and fun. And addicting.

    Haven’t done anything recent since all locations I am familiar with are now mapped to great details.

    pingveno ,

    Huh. I’m sorry that was your reception. They should have been helpful towards a new member of the community. It looks like they should have redirected you to the access=private article.

    itchy_lizard ,

    You’re not supposed to remove roads. Just mark it as private

    yousirname ,

    It wasn’t a road

    estebanlm , in Migrating away from Fedora, looking for advice.
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    I like Manjaro Gnome. I changed the maui shell for the gnome shell and everything is looking great, and as close to vanilla gnome as possible (which is what I liked from Fedora :P) is not the same package system, but is very neat ;)

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