This is exactly what Red Hat wants. They want the ‘rebuilders’ to contribute to CentOS Stream, and as far as I can tell, welcome the efforts of all contributors to Centos Stream.
Gonna come out with a controvertial take here, but I am actually fine with anonymised usage stats/telemetry if they are solely designed to improve the product, and as long as there is an opt-out. Many people are get furious about telemetry in firefox or distros, but when i ask what their precise issue is with it, can give no answer.
Sending these stats is also a contribution to the projects that help improve software.
I think a lot of the arguing people are doing here is about the usefulness of opt-in vs opt-out. And personally I tend to agree with the side of the opt-out group; telemetry that users opt-in to is just less useful overall for figuring the average needs of your users. Opt-in is way too self-selecting and shows you very little about what actually needs to be worked on for everyone. However, if the telemetry is not privacy-respecting then opt-out is not a good thing at all. But I think I trust the endless OS system that fedora is trying to use.
I would say opt-out is fine as long as the option is presented to the user early on in the UX. Like for example during installation. If it’s opt-out but the option to do so is hidden then that’s not good.
Many people are get furious about telemetry in firefox or distros, but when i ask what their precise issue is with it, can give no answer.
They already gave you their answer. They don't think collecting data without very deliberate opt in is acceptable. There is no need for anything more precise than that. It's a perfectly complete answer on its own.
Personally, i see metric/telemetry collection like democracy; you are perfectly entitled to not participate, but if you opt out you also forfeit your right to complain about bugs or missing features.
I work on a companion app for a piece of very expensive hardware where our users are trained on how to report problems, and I’d still have 1 stack trace from our telemetry system than 1000 user reports. Our privacy policy explicitly states that we collect some information for the purpose of identifying and fixing issues, and for product development, and that we won’t sell or share that data. We operate in the EU, so the amount of money we could get from a data broker selling that information would be a rounding error on the fines we’d see if we did.
Absolutely read the privacy policy and call out weak policies, but “metrics” and “telemetry” are not synonyms for “spying”
Because constantly, throughout the entirety of the corporate controlled internet era we are now in, and I mean constantly as in it is hard to find an exception, anonymous data collection has at some point in the future turned into non-anonymous data collection to sell to data brokers.
Hell, there are a staggering.number of services being caught with ignoring opt-out preferences even and non-anonymously tracking users via identification numbers.
The problem I have with it is that eventually, every single closed source “anonymous” consumer telemetry will eventually become de-anonymized and almost always sold. If any capitalist company sees a cash cow that they aren’t milking, shareholders or rich owners will demand that it be milked.
I would struggle to find a case where it hasn’t happened with any popular software
I was 13 or 14. Must have been 1995 or 96. Learned about it from friends on IRC (any old dalnet nerds out there?)
Ruined my mom’s computer multiple times leaning how to partition HDDs 😆
I only recently went back to windows bc I was doing some .net projects and found WSFL was more than adequate for my other projects. Still kind of feel dirty using windows shudder
If you’re going for a similar Fedora-like experience, with it being a rolling release that is still stable, then OpenSuse Tumbleweed is definitely you’re best bet.
Now, if the rolling release nature is something you’re less attached to, then some good options would be Pop!_OS (especially if you have an Nvidia card), another Ubuntu-spin like Kubuntu perhaps or even KDE Neon, and maybe Debian 12. Though for the last one, although it’s a fantastic distro, it looks nice, new, and shiny now, but in 6-12 months when you’re not even half way through the Debian upgrade cycle and still on old software, will that bother you? If the answer is yes, then look elsewhere. Otherwise, Debian 12 may be a good choice for you as well.
Solus interests me, but it was pretty much dead for a good while until very recently. I still think it’s best to wait another 6-12 months to ensure that they succeed in regularly keeping everything updated before recommending it to people.
All the power was in the hands of one person who came down with serous problems. The organization has since been reformed so that can never happen again. It is now in a good place.
When he left, he passed off power to a single person. When that successor left, he passed it on to yet another single person. That as always the problem. The reform never happened until this recent crisis. Now there is a lot of redundancy and assurances that nothing is left to a single person. Thankfully.
As a long time Fedora user, I've been using openSUSE Tumbleweed exclusively the past few months and it has been fantastic. KDE is their flagship desktop but I believe they also provide a vanilla Gnome experience.
And to update grub it seems the best command is “update-bootloader”
grub2-mkconfig seems to work fine as well. I just installed openSUSE Tumbleweed on a machine yesterday and used that to add some kernel arguments. I was not aware of update-bootloader at all.
Like what’s up with YaST?
Yeah, it’s like an all-in-one launchpad for managing the system. I haven’t used it much because I prefer using the terminal for most things, but it seems to work fine when I used it a bit (installing some repos and Nvidia drivers).
I installed SUSE after over 20 years and so far it’s been quite a good experience. Very similar to the Fedora experience I would say, in the sense that you need to jump through some hoops to get Nvidia / non-free codecs and then after that it’s smooth sailing. Let’s see how it holds up in the longer term for me.
I see. This is good to know, thanks. I am still getting used to openSUSE and quite liking it so far. Barring any drama that happens down the road, I think this is my Fedora-replacement now. I still prefer Debian Stable + Flatpak + Distrobox on most of my machines though.
That would be my recommendation as well. I’ve been using a Zowie mouse on Linux for years now.
However, the switches with which you can make the changes are at the bottom of the mouse. Changing the DPI, for example, with one click is therefore not possible. For some users, this is apparently a problem, for whatever reason.
Have been using a Zowie FK2 for a couple years now and it’s really nice. No drivers needed due to being USB class complient. Hardware toggle for DPI. Good build quality. If it would break tomorrow, I’d buy it again if available.
As an Almalinux user I wanted them to tell Red Hat to fuck off with their Stream, but this news is still good I guess for the short/mid term. I still think they are making a mistake for trusting Red Hat to keep their products/ sources up.
He replied to a post in the Slackware forum back at the end of January telling folk he had terminal cancer. No idea how things have progressed since then but I know he was already very unwell at that point and I’ve not seen him crop up since that time. I imagine he’s either spending his remaining time with his family or he’s already at rest. Either way, losing Steve is a huge blow to the community. Wish I could have met him and thanked him in person for his videos. They were so helpful to me in the early days of running Slackware.
Every time I move to a new area this is one of things I do. Outside of Google, a lot of the other maps start with open street maps as their data set as it’s an excellent jumping off point. So you’re not just helping open street maps You’re helping most map applications.
Since I can’t edit my post (not sure why, just can’t) this parent post should help people.
My leaving Fedora and by extension RH, mostly is about not supporting in any meaningful capacity any associated with RH. My hope is to find something similar to Fedora, I’m getting a lot of recommendations about OpenSUSE tumbleweed and endeavorOS. Since my setup is AMD CPU/GPU it seems while not the perfect choice POP!_OS isn’t for me. I think as long as the distro supports vanilla Gnome or as close as possible would be great.
I may be misreading this, but POP!_OS will work more than fine on an AMD CPU/GPU, as will any modern Linux distro. However, for people that Nvidia’s proprietary drivers, POP!_OS also has pretty good integration out of the box that sets them apart from other distros (likely because the developer, System76, also makes laptops with Nvidia GPUs).
That being said, I’ve been on EndeavourOS for the past year and a half and I really like it so far. It’s basically just arch but with a GUI installer and some extra theming/add-ons, which personally has worked great for me.
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