As long as you don’t get car jacked 🙃 saw a headline a few months ago (a year ago?) That a young man got shot and killed because a car jacker couldn’t steal his car.
A little unnerving in Chicago where car jackings are relatively frequent.
Yeah well it’s hard when you hear all your life if you mess up once you blow the transmission,.which is a several grand repair, nobody with a manual will ever let you practice on their car and well hey automatics are everywhere and don’t have that headache.
Nah, you just can’t without being a complete psychopath I guess force in a too wrong gear, the sync won’t be able to spin so fast that you can actually put in a ridiculous gear.
I’ve nearly shifted into 2nd gear from 4th before, the car was NOT happy, but there were no explosions. Granted, I didn’t fully let up the clutch, but still. Mistakes happen.
I shift from 4th into 2nd all the time when in city traffic before taking a turn, so I’m pretty confused why that would be an issue.
Unless you wanted to shift up and brainfarted and shifted down instead. But it’s pretty hard to hammer in a gear that is way too low for your current speed. There will be a lot of physical resistance and that grinding noise before the gear snaps in.
I was going highway speeds, I was going from 4th to 5th but decided to go back into 4th (or something to that effect, it was a while ago now). The shifting itself was easy because I had the clutch in, but as soon as I started to lift off the clutch it got pissed
Nah, they just don’t want you to drive their car. Chance of a money shift is extremely low, and it doesn’t usually happen while learning. Money shifts really happen when you are trying to drive too fast, and you downshift more than 2 gears quickly. Most learners have trouble keeping the RPMs up high enough to money shift. I was perpetually shifting at 1.3k when learning and you can pretty much go from 6 to 2 without money shifting at those low revs.
nobody with a manual will ever let you practice on their car
I’m sorry that happened to you. IMO folks are way more precious about their manual transmissions than they need to be. I’ve taught several people to drive stick – including myself, in a brand-new car I drove home from the dealer in rush-hour stop-and-go traffic – and it’s never hurt anything. (That brand-new car still had its original clutch when it was sadly totaled by a falling tree, 100k miles later.)
Same, I learned on a brand new car, on my own, and taught a couple other people with it, and it still had the original clutch when the transmission linkage broke at 187k (basically totaled at that point, just pulling out enough to get to the transmission would have cost more than the car was worth at that point… Low end Chevy’s don’t hold much value as it turns out)
The clutch is meant to slip, that’s literally how they work. As long as you aren’t riding it partially engaged for hundreds or thousands of miles, you probably won’t burn it out. If they were as delicate as people treated them, they wouldn’t have been the choice for racing for as long as they were after automatics hit the scene.
Am US citizen, only drive manual transmissions. Anyone here who likes cars can drive a manual transmission, anyone who doesn’t like cars doesn’t give a shit about a manual transmission and just wants to get where they’re going.
We invented cars, we’re allowed to decide how they evolve.
American too. I don’t really like cars, but if I have to drive one, I would prefer one with a manual transmission. Unfortunately, my current car doesn’t have one because they don’t put them in affordable cars anymore.
Maybe, but when I had a manual Toyota Corolla in the 90s, I felt like I was able to control the car so much better than any of the automatics I’ve had since.
I think you drastically underestimate the number of gearheads in the States. Makes sense, given we have incredibly limited public transport. Currently have 3 manuals in my driveway.
Of course, it a joke based on the fact that manual gearbox is, even to this day, the standard in Europe. I would be very surprise to meet someone with a driver license who can’t drive manual. It seems in the USA manual driving is a hobby for car enthusiast. But what do I know? I have never step foot on the new continent.
I’ve always heard that this is how a lot of the “wrong pedal” accidents go. Two foot drivers get panicked in an accident and slam on both the gas and the brakes at the same time. I feel like the brake should be able to override the gas though. But I’ve never tried it and am not about to lol.
I feel like the brake should be able to override the gas though.
“Override” in the sense of pushing the brake pedal cancelling the accelerator input signal? No.
“Overpower” in the sense of the brakes being able to apply more force to stop the wheels from turning than the engine at full throttle is able to apply to keep them turning? Yes.
Regardless of your issue with my terminology, it just seems like a safety issue if the brakes can’t overpower the acceleratkr. What if the accelerator got stuck?
Sorry, my tone was unintended: the part I meant to emphasize is that your brakes should be powerful enough to overpower the engine, even if it is stuck at full throttle. If they can’t, something is wrong with your brakes.
Ah you’re good. For whatever reason my weird brain was taking it to imply that the brakes may not necessarily be able to do that and was like wtf that seems dangerous.
In most cars, the accelerator is easier to press down fully than the brake pedal. Apply the same force required to floor it to the brake pedal (or even double) and the car will go.
You’re not incorrect, but that’s the wrong comparison to make. If the car is accelerating out of control and you’re trying to stop it, you’re not going to press the brake as hard as you would the accelerator; you’re going to press the brake as hard as you can (which, unless you’re old and frail, is a lot harder).
All cars from 2012 and newer actually have a brake-throttle override that cuts the accelerator signal if the brakes are being pressed due to the 2009 incidents with Toyota cars that had their accelerator pedals get stuck in floor mats.
Actually, due to the 2009 incidents with Toyota accelerator pedals getting stuck, all modern (~2012+) cars cut the accelerator signal if the brakes are being pressed as a safety precaution (this is called brake-throttle override).
That’s true; Toyota needed the appearance of doing something to “fix” the “problem.” I’d argue that the feature was never actually necessary, though.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if, as those 2012+ vehicles age, the extra complexity ends up causing more problems (e.g. from failing switches cutting the accelerator signal when they shouldn’t) than it ever prevented.
I’m actually terrified of doing this in an automatic because I’ve been driving a manual so long. Nobody is making manuals anymore so I assume my next car will be an automatic and I’m going to need a strap for my left foot so I can’t accidentally do this lol.
Last time I drove an automatic I put it in reverse when I got to a stop sign because my hand just went for it and pushed the same amount I would in my car to get to neutral. That was the day that I learned both that the button on automatic shifters means nothing, and that I must sit on my right hand when driving one.
When I’ve driven an auto rental a few times the most I accidentally do is try to put my left foot through the floor when going for the clutch that doesn’t exist. The brake is far enough to the right your engrained habits shouldn’t cause you to reach for it with you left.