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Martineski ,
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This post reminded me why I had this community blocked for several months until recently.

Nachorella ,

As someone who was successfully converted to veganism I’m not going to take your shitty cow raping, carnist ass, stanky opinions on how to convert people. Go on, chuck a few slices of bacon in the pan for me.

iiGxC ,

vegans are insufferable to animal abusers the way environmentalists are insufferable to climate change deniers

VictoriaAScharleau ,

no one likes animal abuse

iiGxC ,

People who eat animal products support it tho

VictoriaAScharleau ,

no one supports animal abuse

iiGxC ,

Except non-vegans

VictoriaAScharleau ,

no. no one.

Nachorella ,

They might not like it but they sure do tolerate it happening to an animal they like the taste of and don’t actually have to see it themselves.

VictoriaAScharleau ,

you tolerate it to the exact same degree. if you want to stop animal abuse, you need to go to where they are being abused and stop it.

MindTraveller ,

Could have fooled me looking at this thread

GiveMemes ,

I will. I plan on enjoying it. I hope you recognize that I’m doing this at your behest, equivalent to you eating the meat.

Also, have you ever considered that some people know where their meat comes from and know that it’s not being kept in horrible conditions? I don’t really care that it’s dying to feed me. Plants die to feed me too.

I’m not going to get into the environmental aspect as I know that veganism is better for the environment, but just shifting away from factory farmed red meat would be a huge positive change and then you don’t even piss off the majority of the population (that see you as a self-righteous shithead) :)

Nachorella ,

Obviously I’d prefer it if you didn’t eat animals but I’m actually chill with just being more mindful about what you support. If you’re going out of your way to try and minimise the harm you’re doing then that’s better than most people.

And at least you recognise the environmental harm. The only thing that really annoys me is people lying about these things.

MindTraveller ,

There’s this great game on the internet called Half Earth Socialism. The idea is the earth has converted to a single socialist government, and you get to be president of Earth for life. Can you save the earth from climate change without losing popular support and being coup’ed?

A lot of people say they failed this game because it’s too hard. But I didn’t, I won on the first try. One of the biggest things I did in the game was make meat eating illegal. It was a really hard policy to push and I lost a lot of support with my constituents, I nearly got ousted. But then pollution started going down, temperature slowed its rise, extinction went down, biodiversity went up, and everyone was happier. Within a few years my approval rating was back up and then some. I also banned cars and it was the same effect.

What I’m saying is your meat should be illegal.

Ganbat , (edited )

Let me ask you this: where do you stand on shearing sheep?

EDIT: Since the user chose to ignore my question, I’ll just explain my reasoning. Many vegans consider the shearing of sheep and using of wool to be cruel, with some having ‘rape’ and ‘molestation’ narratives like those being addressed in this meme and active in this thread. Despite this, modern sheep require sheering for their health, and will become matted, heavy and overheated otherwise.

SqueakyBeaver ,

Huh, I wonder if sheep used to grow less sool and humans just bred them for a lot of wool. Time to go research!

Edit: that is exactly what happened. Wild sheep do not grow a lot of wool.

Ganbat ,

Yes, they did. Either way, however, not shearing domestic sheep is harmful to them, and I’ve personally seen the molestation “argument” appear in response to such a statement in the past.

Someone who’s more informed might respond with something about the selective breeding. Plenty will still respond with the same energy already seen within this thread.

Enkers , (edited )

There’s nothing wrong with shearing sheep if there’s no exploitation occurring. The problem is when you add a profit motive to keep breeding animals designed with their exploitation in mind.

However, I’m going to go out on limb here, and say there probably aren’t many sheep in the care of vegans except on animal sanctuaries. The important thing is to stop buying wool and funding animal exploitation.

Nachorella ,

I didn’t choose to ignore anything. I just have a life outside of being an annoying vegan.

You already knew what I was going to say, though. I’m personally against wool products because they breed sheep specifically to grow unhealthy amounts of wool and once the few good coats they have in them are gone they send them off to be killed for food anyway.

Sheep can also be mistreated during the shearing process, and since shearers are often paid per sheep they’re incentivised to rush through them.

I’m not going to use the word rape here since I don’t think it applies.

Have I activated any trap cards?

MindTraveller ,

I think one should only be allowed to shear sheep if they’re either not breeding their sheep, or breeding them to produce more manageable coats like in the wild. Ideally our sheep population would be much lower and the animals would naturally be healthy. So people should only be allowed to extract labour value from their sheep if they’re working to reduce exploitation.

VictoriaAScharleau ,

no one is raping cows

iiGxC ,

Except dairy farmers

VictoriaAScharleau ,

no. no one .

MindTraveller ,

So you’re saying the cows in farms all consent to being impregnated by a farmer’s fist up their vagina? How? How do cows consent to handjobs?

VictoriaAScharleau ,

no. I’m saying no animal has ever consented to any veterinary procedure, and that is ok. artificial insemination is not rape.

Cryophilia ,

Go on, chuck a few slices of bacon in the pan for me.

K

MindTraveller ,

I, too, kill people to spite other people I don’t like. One time a woman cut me off in traffic, so I murdered my girlfriend and buried her in the backyard to piss that driver off

FlyingSquid ,
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I have removed way too many posts for incivility, so I will be locking this thread and going through it to remove the rest.

Just because you feel strongly about a subject does not give you reason to break rule 1.

SoulsFetchBot Bot ,

Bunch of triggered meat flakes 🤡

SpaceCowboy ,
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Yeah there were some animal rights people that ran out onto the field at a ballgame I was at. The fine for running onto the field is $5000. There were two of them, so that was $10,000.

TV broadcasts don’t show people that run out onto the field since they don’t want to encourage it. So the only people that saw their banner were people at the ballpark. Someone shouted “get off the field you hippies” and the whole section laughed.

They probably should’ve just donated the $10,000 to an animal shelter.

thefrankring , (edited )
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By eating meat, I save vegan’s food from going extinct.

MacNCheezus ,
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Surely this has nothing to do with calling people murderers and rapists…

Forester OP ,
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I’m not the one calling people murderers and rapists

MindTraveller ,

Yeah, you’re the one being called a murderer and rapist

Forester OP ,
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MindTraveller ,

Nice job image embedding lmao

Forester OP ,
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You’re not worth the effort. It’s embedded properly. The site’s just not rendering it

tobogganablaze ,

Yeah and it’s so annoying because I haven’t actually been chaught, yet.

Katana314 ,

Still wish to see more of a rise of kangatarianism. Basically, starts in Australia, where the land has an overpopulation of kangaroos. You only eat their meat, helping the ecosystem equalize. There are similar species in America that we have way too many of in the wild.

To be clear, this practice couldn’t sustain for decades of popularity, but it would mean people don’t have to give up meat as a whole, while we continue to research tastier alternatives.

MindTraveller ,

Whoever said that is probably a murderer and a rapist.

Forester OP ,
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I mean honestly, I think it’s way less cruel than letting it grow up in a feed lot and then forcing it through the slaughterhouse.

blazera ,
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Do not rape your meat

Iheartcheese ,
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Stop me.

Forester OP ,
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What a relevant username

Iheartcheese ,
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I make my own ;)

Forester OP ,
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Take a shower

Iheartcheese ,
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only with you bb

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