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over_clox ,

Do I need to refrigerate the urine first? 🤔

FenrirIII ,
@FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

You have to drink it fresh.

over_clox ,

Ah, thank you. Am I supposed to eat the kidney stones too?

FenrirIII ,
@FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

You have to grind it up with a mortar and pestle then sniff it.

lightnsfw ,

It’s just trying to help you develop a kidney stone in the first place. Can’t pass one of you don’t have it.

the_doktor ,

How have we not banned the use of AI yet? Just fucking ban it.

BilboBargains ,

Jokes on you, I love drinking piss

Klear ,

No! I wanted orange!

Aganim ,

But it gave you lemon-lime?

Klear ,

It’s the maintenance man. He knows I like orange.

Aganim ,

So you think the staff has some sort of plot…

Klear ,

Yeah, they do it on purpose!

EmperorHenry ,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

2 quarts is not equal to 2 liters.

intensely_human ,

Whew! For a second there I thought I had to drink two liters a piss every day!

42yeah ,

Common mistake. You know that if you drink too much urine, there will be nothing left to piss, right?

mynameisigglepiggle ,

To be fair every time I give Gemini a go it’s hot garbage.

But then 4o seems to be worse than gpt4. Just feels like it’s regurgitating garbage

Colour_me_triggered ,

Gemini does a decent job with Justin Trudeau.

fishbone ,

And that’s definitely the most unhinged thing the AI said in OP’s image.

x0x7 ,

It’s the rule of modern engineering. You will always be served the worst possible product that can claim to have some utility. If it’s not on the edge of being useful someone didn’t engineer hard enough.

kogasa ,
@kogasa@programming.dev avatar

That’s not necessarily wrong, but not the big explaining factor here I think. The technological challenges behind aligning ML models with factual reality aren’t solved, so it’s not an engineering decision. It’s more that AI is remarkably easy to market as being more capable than it is

luciferofastora ,

To expand: I feel like it should be emphasised more that current “AI” models are, at best, hallucinating.

Their output may look real enough and for some purposes they may be perfectly suitable, but ultimately, they have no concept of the semantic objects related to the words they learn and the semantic relationships between those objects. Without that, they can’t possibly guarantee that the implied semantic connection of the combination of words they produce aligns with the actual relationships.

You can use a LLM to help translate bullet points into text of a given tone (like abstracts for theses that sound scientific), but you’ll still have to check the factuality and consistency of those texts. When using them to write texts about something you already know, that’s doable and can save you some work. But using it like in the OP to aggregate and present “new” facts without supervision is dangerous, because you can’t actually verify what you don’t already know.

But “Copilot can scrape your data to give you some pointers and spare some of the tedium of finding it yourself, but you shouldn’t take it for gospel truth” doesn’t quite sell as nicely as “Microsoft Copilot leverages the power of AI to boost productivity, unlock creativity, and helps you understand information better”.

BallotOrTheBullet ,

We should just spam lines from the original bonzai buddy and turn all llms into bonzai buddies.

dumbass ,
@dumbass@leminal.space avatar

So is the urine I drink supposed to be light coloured or the urine I expell?

MystikIncarnate ,

Yes

dumbass ,
@dumbass@leminal.space avatar

Ok cool, just wanted to check I was doing it right.

mrgreyeyes ,

You can also blend pee’s to have a light colored average.

dumbass ,
@dumbass@leminal.space avatar

So now I have to source other peoples piss? This is too hard, I’ll just do it the old fasioned way.

mechoman444 ,

I was actually drinking my own urine as I read this post. But not for kidney stones…

intensely_human ,

I drink it for the articles

aeronmelon ,

Rip Torn, as Parches O’Houlihan, defensively ranting about his choice to voluntarily drink his own urine.

Allero ,

Didn’t specify it should be your own

Asudox ,
@Asudox@lemmy.world avatar

guys it works!1!1!1!

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Having had kidney stones, I think I got to a point before they finally gave me some fentanyl that I would have been willing to try it if it would have made the pain stop.

theangryseal ,

I’ve had kidney stones (I think) for two or three years now. It fucks off for a bit, comes back, gets infected, fucks my immune system up, then gets better.

I guess that fucker is too big to get down to where the extreme pain comes in.

I’m an idiot. I should have dealt with it already, but I seen my poor grandpa and uncle suffer once it started moving. I believe I’d rather die.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I think they can use ultrasound to break them up so you can pass them if they’re too large to pass. Mine was small enough that I passed it after a few days thankfully.

theangryseal ,

That’s the part I’m avoiding. Passing them. :p

I’m stupid.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That was the least bad part for me.

theangryseal ,

Maybe I’m being scared of nothing and I’m tougher than I think to be dealing with it this long.

My uncle literally fell to the ground and said, “my gut has busted, I’m going to die right here.”

He’s the toughest son of a bitch I’ve ever known.

SoleInvictus ,

You can get meds that’ll help you pass it and others that help with the pain.

theangryseal ,

No pain meds for me. That’s part of the problem. I’m an ex junkie in a medication assisted treatment program for a decade or more. I just gotta deal with it.

Jax ,

Look into getting it blasted with ultrasound. That might be the ticket for you.

somethingp , (edited )

The pain is a lesser problem than getting chronic kidney infections. If you know the stones are the cause, you need to see a urologist to figure out a solution. Recurring inflammation from the stones and infections can cause more and more problems as you age, and may potentially affect your renal function down the line.

MicrondeMMMMMMM ,
@MicrondeMMMMMMM@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Op is probably going through hell right now…

Classy ,

Sure, I drink my own piss. It’s sterile, and I like the taste.

MicrondeMMMMMMM ,
@MicrondeMMMMMMM@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

JUUUUST FYI, piss is NOT sterile that’s a myth

Classy ,

Oh I’m sure it isn’t, I’m just quoting Dodgeball haha

youtu.be/w6YnnCH2uwY

ashok36 ,

It’s pretty much sterile if you have a catheter. That’s why the joke in Dodge ball about Patches drinking his own piss works so well. He’s a cripple, so he has a catheter, so “it’s sterile and I like the taste!”.

Simulation6 ,

Or the joke in Catch22 where the nurse swaps the drip and catheter bottles once a day.

SoleInvictus ,

At the risk of being the “ackshally” guy, even indwelling catheters substantially increase the likelihood of bacteriuria, or abnormal bacteria in the urine. It gives motile bacteria additional surface area on which to make their way up the ureter, plus the initial placement can introduce microbes.

Bladders are pretty well colonized with a plethora of microbes. Short of nuking it with bleach, it’s never going to be sterile.

Relevant articles:

Catheter-associated urinary tract infection in adults

The bladder is not sterile: History and current discoveries on the urinary microbiome

jaybone ,

This guy catheters.

a_wild_mimic_appears ,

the first ever urinary tract infection i had was when i had a catheter, and it took ages to clear it, 0/10 do not recommend.

a_wild_mimic_appears ,

yeah, that myth is constantly popping up. it’s just that whatever bacteria live in your bladder just dont grow outside of it, and thats what makes it look “sterile” if you just check with standard media.

Thats also an issue with everything growing in the stomach, like heliobacter pylori - you have to provide the living conditions of the inside of the stomach to grow and keep a sample for research.

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