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PunnyName ,

The kiosks are great. I can more easily customize my McChickens, and they almost always come out boiling lava hot.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

and they almost always come out boiling lava hot.

That does not sound pleasant.

That’s why I don’t get their apple pie.

PunnyName ,

It’s pleasant because it’s not like luke warm. It means it’s fresh.

I can let it cool, or nuke the roof of my mouth; choice matters!

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

If hot was the same as fresh, you wouldn’t be able to heat up day-old Chinese takeout.

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

The move toward self-serve stuff is actually revolutionary for people who don’t like constant social interactions, i have autism and holy shit just 10 years ago i would have been spending all my social energy just talking to cashiers.

Binthinkin ,

Their food is absolute garbage do not eat there.

The fancy look is just what everyone else is doing.

America doesn’t actually have style. They have architectural and design dickheads throw shit at a wall and we have to put up with it and that’s what winds up in peoples homes.

And I have remodeled some homes to look like McDonalds and the client doesn’t even recognize it.

It’s so sad.

BautAufWasEuchAufbaut ,
@BautAufWasEuchAufbaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

And I have remodeled some homes to look like McDonalds and the client doesn’t even recognize it.

Can you elaborate on that story?

boonhet ,

It’s been in style for a while

Saddest part is, I also default to this sort of appearance. Though if I do see a cozy place, I like it - but if you asked me to design something, it would be millennial gray. I have no imagination.

JusticeForPorygon ,
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

I hope Gen Z fixes this when we’re running the businesses.

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

i’m praying gen Z fixes this by telling corporations to fuck off and going back to how fast food worked for most of human civilization: just random people selling stuff from their kitchen, basically.

fun fact: at least in rome it was basically standard for most people to eat “fast food”, the streets were jam packed with various little food shops.

JusticeForPorygon ,
@JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world avatar

I think that’s still the case in some places, take countries like Korea or Vietnam, where street food is everywhere and it won’t literally kill you to live off of it.

jedibob5 ,

'90s-'00s McDonald’s primarily appealed to kids, as the colorful characters and Happy Meals were a big part of the draw.

'10s-'20s McDonalds has pivoted to marketing towards adults, in part because they had come under fire for marketing greasy, oversalted calorie bombs to children as the US obesity epidemic took off. The other reason is that mid-to-low income adults became a much more lucrative demographic after decades of wage stagnation basically created an entire generation that’s too tired and overworked to cook for themselves but too poor to go out to eat anywhere else.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod ,
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

Don't forget that generation also saw home economics classes removed from school, so if they don't learn to cook from their parents they just don't learn to cook.

GiveMemes ,

Alternatively, they could take some initiative and use this wonderful tool called the internet…

just2look ,

Did you miss the tired and overworked comment? Feeling exhausted and burned out doesn’t inspire most people to spend a large amount of time and effort learning something new.

jedibob5 ,

I don’t think online resources are necessarily a replacement for in-person classroom instruction, and even if they were, it’s not a reason to take the option of home ec classes away from those who want it.

That said, I think it’s at least a good thing that so many good internet resources on cooking exist, and it helps mitigate the problem to some degree. Still, it takes time and energy to seek out those resources, learn from them, and put them into practice. Not easy to do for anyone who has been worked far past the point of burnout and are still just scraping by.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod ,
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

Yeah, those folks who work 16 hours and have no cooking knowledge should go out and buy a bunch of pots and pans and knives and a ton of ingredients. They don't need to sleep and have plenty of extra money to waste on ruined food.

What a douchey take.

Num10ck ,

really they could start somewhere and simple and build from it and be MUCH better off than fast food daily, for nutrition and money and time. throw some raw chicken on a grill and flip it over after 12 minutes. cut some veggies/fruit up. eventually add sauces or cheese or something.

webghost0101 ,

Tell me your work isnt sucking 100% of your energy without saying so.

To be fair though thats a good thing, no job should exhaust people to the point of rendering them unable to take care of themselves but for many of us that is not reality.

Num10ck ,

doesn’t sound sustainable. either partner up and/or reframe your work/life balances.

webghost0101 ,

It isn’t sustainable, which is what i am trying to explain my doctor.

I already stopped working full time and i landed an otherwise perfect job for me, i have no real bosses and a lot of freedom to choose my work.

I just happen to be autistic is all. The way my energy works doesn’t fit with this “work hours concept” a good work balance of me would be going to the office late when its dark, calm and quiet so i can focus, do twice the amount of work in half the time and just go home when i feel tired combined with a no strings attached guaranteed livable income.

I can’t partner up to start my own business because the concept of profit is immoral to me. My current job provides tax-paid free healthcare for kids in contrast.

The clutch is, so many people aren’t autistic and have it so much worse. Jobs where your boss gets upset because you’re sick, getting pressured to work overtime and still not being able to afford rent. How about cacao farmers who work permanently to pay of a debt to their employers and get fined for missing a days work?

The modern world is not sustainable and headed for disaster.

webghost0101 ,

Cool. I checked and found the following types, which one should i go to. /s

  • 90% personal blog/vlog with vague cooking tips sprinkled within
  • instruction video where you need a specific device or machine from sponsor brand
  • overly confident with a sidedish of just as clueless and stupid
  • overly confident with a sidedish of overreliance on uncommon tool/machine they assume everyone has
  • recipe which actually makes no sense taste wise but sounds cool on paper and generates clicks
  • legit recipe but ingredients and keywords changed into google buzzword ones (bacon gets more hits then Italian ham)
  • some actually good kitchen instructors that you need to know about in advance cause there burried below the mess.

I really enjoyed cooking with dog actually, shame that after my workday i am no longer in a condition to operate anything that can burn

fidodo ,

Telling people to suck it up and just do it is a great way to feel smug while achieving nothing.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

My daughter had whatever they call home ec now (consumer science?) last year when she was in sixth grade. They baked cookies.

And that was about all I did in home ec back in the late 80s too. That and sew a stuffed animal dog.

So I don’t know that home ec is actually all that worth it. Not the way it’s been done for decades, anyway.

Industrial arts was the same way. He had us make wooden tulips after telling a bunch of horror stories about how the power tools would maim you, so I refused to use them. And had I used them, I know now as someone who has used them since that cutting tulip pieces out of a piece of wood with a jigsaw is not much of a learning experience.

garbagebagel ,

Yeah I definitely didn’t learn to cook at all from home ec. I remember sowing more though and I did learn the basics at least there but it was reinforced in my house, whereas cooking was not as much, so I can’t really tell if it stuck because it was a home thing too.

I think things like, what we called tech Ed that sounds like your industrial arts, was really more about introducing kids to the concepts and they could find out if it was something they were into. Most people would never attempt or maybe even know how to attempt woodworking if not introduced in school.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Wouldn’t they have to have the tools at home to continue woodworking? That’s pretty expensive. Isn’t that just telling kids ‘here’s something you might learn how to do someday if you aren’t poor?’

garbagebagel ,

I guess you got a point there hobbywise but I was thinking more like if they’re thinking about college and whatnot, if those activities are something they enjoyed in high school they might consider going into internship or trades for that kind of thing.

postmateDumbass ,

Also those grease bomb refugees that were 5-15 during the 90s?

They were 25-35 for the '10-'20 pivot.

They never had a chance…

Rolando ,

Compare to the Carl’s Junior kiosks in Idiocracy.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That movie really wasn’t supposed to be a documentary.

SpaceNoodle ,

Great read, thanks for sharing that!

someguy3 ,

A youtuber had a good take: MacDonald’s used to be cheap cheap cheap. Then they slowly tried to become fancier. So I think now they’re stuck in a weird middle ground. Great opportunity for a new chain to go back to cheap cheap cheap.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t even think they tried. They became cosmetically fancier. Other than some coffee options to compete with Starbucks, it hasn’t really changed the menu a whole lot in terms of basic offerings. Just higher prices and slicker, more corporate restaurants. I’m guessing they still do most of their business in burgers and fries, plus maybe McNuggets,

someguy3 ,

Lots of things slowly crept up the prices. I looked it up awhile ago so going off memory: All day breakfast, new equipment for something or other, as you said fancier decor, fancy coffee. It all adds up.

FeelThePower ,
@FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

My old McDonald’s in my hometown had a GameCube / N64 hooked up with 2 controllers. Was pretty dope. I think they got rid of it though, haven’t been in years.

Stovetop ,

Gotta love the bottom picture.

Gigantic displays that can theoretically put whatever message you want on there before people interact with them.

Each has two printed leaflets taped to the sides.

Blademax ,

Old McDonald was more fun, E-I-E-I-O

I_Fart_Glitter ,

I grew up with this McDonald’s, it had a jukebox. My sister had life threatening food allergies, so we only ever went there to get orange juice, but I still loved it.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/3b503676-100d-4a0b-a310-19e466ae38b8.jpeg

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/ed40b3e9-3a74-4852-bf2d-578b88583abe.jpeg

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

The Rock 'n Roll McDonalds in Chicago was pretty cool when I went to it as a kid. Looks like it’s gone now.

eatCasserole ,

That’s rad.

Rolando ,

Your sister risked death so you all could hang out at a place with a shark’s head biting a surfboard. Respect.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

If there were ever anything worth risking death over, it would be to hang out at a place with a shark’s head biting a surfboard.

Also, that was like all we had to do back in the 80s when cartoons weren’t on.

cyborganism ,

🎶 Denver, the last dinosaur. He’s my friend and a whole lot more!🎶

macrocarpa ,

So denver is fwb?

cyborganism ,

I don’t know what fwb means. 😔

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

A Finnish prison? That’s way too nice for an American one.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe it’s a Turkish prison.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRicNrfN97H7f3Dh6fLk4QKS-2mUU97MQdOsMKHM9E8bQ&s

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

nordic prisons are unironically way nicer than this, they’re basically particularly boring and secure dormitories with normal looking (if very clean) rooms.

spujb , (edited )

OP the original creator has never seen a prison

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I was thinking ‘Apple’ when I saw it, but I didn’t make the meme. So I put it in the title instead. If you change ‘prison’ to ‘designed by Apple,’ it works better.

Splatterphace ,

You mean the person who originally made the meme that OP posted

spujb ,

no i mean OP. unless OP outright says otherwise, it’s fair to assume they probably have at least a marginally similar opinion to the original creator otherwise why would they post it?

edit: ok they came and said it outright lol.

Exusia ,
@Exusia@lemmy.world avatar

It’s not terribly far off. The barebones brutalist style where the chairs are attached to the floor, hard plastic molded tabletops. Lack of items that can be moved or taken completely conveys “do your business and leave”. Obviously a screen that size that wouldn’t be that accessible in a prison, but it only adds the harsh nature and lack of human touch of the room.

7/10 definetly reminiscent of chow hall.

Telodzrum ,

brutalist style

This is in absolutely no way consistent with the brutalist movement.

Exusia ,
@Exusia@lemmy.world avatar

“Brutalist buildings are characterised by minimalist constructions that showcase the bare building materials and structural elements over decorative design.”

I would welcome expanding my knowledge but what style do you consider buildings of few decorative designs other than their harsh geometric edges and shapes? The inner walls of a prison are often the outer wall. Just straight rows of cinderblock. Inside and outside, the structures lack other architechtural stylings because it creates hiding places or is viewed as extra work/cost during construction.Everything ends in a corner or an edge - no soft edges. As far as my experiences are concerned, that lines up pretty well unless you would rather use the word “spartan” in terms of how little decoration the state puts up.

Telodzrum ,

This is a great example of how reading a WIkipedia article imparts a lot of information and absolutely zero knowledge. This, this, and this are all extremely good examples of brutalist design. The McDonald’s in the OP in no way is reminiscent of such aesthetic concerns. Both are spartan, certainly; but then, so is a lot of post-modernist design (to say nothing of the various minimalist movements throughout time). I’m not here to debate whether or not prisons are brutalist in design, that’s far too sweeping a category to sum up in one school of design and additionally it’s not the point of the conversation here.

Exusia ,
@Exusia@lemmy.world avatar

No, I see your point - brutalism is making an interesting structure and shaping internal spaces using building materials as a limitation.

Where prisons are function-over-form and may appear to meet the style - it is merely coincidental and is not usually artistic expressionism but rather necessity to perform a task.

McShungles is just ultramodern design that comes from a Corp cheaping out

menemen ,
@menemen@lemmy.world avatar

Stuff changes. Here an example what is considered brutalism nowadays: thespaces.com/…/3/

TBF though, concrete walls are still pretty much a requirement.

son_named_bort ,

That also describes the old McDonald’s. All the seats in the older photo are also attached to the floor with hard plastic molded tables.

hungryphrog ,

At least the old one has colors.

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