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NicolaHaskell , in Ah sweet!

There’s bacteria that grow in the roots of legumes that are capable of capturing gaseous nitrogen. That nitrogen makes its way to the soil, where the trees can suck it up to produce protein, like sunflower seeds. I eat those and by the time I urinate and die the nitrogen has been so concentrated within me that I burn a small hole in the ground for the fungus, sun, and time to decay and heal.

If I could photosynthesize the carbs needed to bootstrap this operation I would. If I could plant a piece of myself and feed it rainwater and atmospheric nitrogen to grow a steak I would. If I could leave behind shelter I wood.

chemicalprophet ,

Was this all an elaborate ruse to employ a shitty pun?!!

Noodle07 ,

I wooden put it past them

feedum_sneedson ,

urinate and die

nifty , in Ah sweet!
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I am going to say that it’s unethical for someone to eat others or themselves, lab grown or not, because the community members in a society want to 1) curtail or reduce suffering and 2) increase ways to promote better judgment and impulse controls.

1 - We treat cattle and animals for food production with such contempt and disdain and cruelty, and if we were to start eating humans (lab grown, self-eating or otherwise) we’ll treat humans the same. Delegating some humans to be eaten, lab grown (by choice or not) or otherwise, is going to create a lot of societal strife and suffering. How does self-eating contribute to suffering? See reason 2.

2 - People who consume others or themselves cannot be guaranteed to be devoid of sociopathic characteristics. Even if someone is just eating themselves, it blurs the line between food source and community member.

I think it is the same as people who smoke or cut themselves to relieve stress—yes, whatever you’re doing is your choice and seemingly only affecting you. However, the second hand smoke/scarring in the case of the self-cannibal is their poor judgment and poor impulse control. We expect society members to exercise better judgment and impulse control because the way they think impacts everyone around them.

Why does self-cannibalism seem like poor judgment? Think again of someone who cuts themselves to relieve stress. The way you treat your yourself, including your body, is a reflection of your state of mind. Only a narcissist would say that they’re in complete control of their mind, including the subconscious part, and so their self-eating will be harmless and not result in any bad behavior towards others, ever. We already know vegetarians have more empathy than meat eaters: psychologytoday.com/…/brain-scans-show-vegetarian…

As mentioned, we have historically always treated animal sources of nutrition with disdain, contempt and cruelty. If someone feels that it’s okay for them to eat themselves using lab grown meat, I worry what kind of psychological interplay justifies that decision for them. Do they hate themselves? Is this self-harm? What will their interactions with other people be like after doing this?

So, yes autonomy and self-actualization is an inherent right of cognitively advanced beings. But they lose that right the second it starts impacting someone else’s self-actualization.

In short, even self-cannibalism is unethical because society wants members who are not sociopaths and who won’t contribute to the suffering of other members.

x4740N ,

Stop brigading posts nifty

People will eat meat if they want to, you can’t stop them and at the end of the day brigading annoys people and disrupts social media

It’s the exact same thing you and your group did on reddit

Just stop brigading posts and stop mass downvoting any posts that contain meat, I’ve looked at the vote ratios of posts in food subs enough to know that it is being done

nifty ,
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What the fuck are you on about? I am only on lemmy, and don’t use any other boards.

You’re the one lying about me and brigading.

Maybe you’re a stooge sent by big-Cannibalism to help make this tech popular? See, I can make baseless claims too 🙄

areyouevenreal ,

How is this any way self-harm? To be clear we aren’t talking about growing a whole person here as you seem to be confused. We are talking about a few cells in a petri dish or vat. This is all just psychobabble nonsense. You’re the one here who shouldn’t be in polite society.

nifty ,
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How can you qualify that it’s not self harm? Maybe we need to do brain scan study of what it looks like for people who cut themselves vs those who eat meat grown from their cells.

Lizardking27 ,

Ladies and gentlemen, it apprars we have a winner of the most braindead take award!

x4740N , in Ah sweet!

Don’t you get prions from canibalism

Also if this costs less than supermarket meat I could buy some beef and clone it

areyouevenreal ,

Yes and no. You get prions from eating a person that’s also infected with prions. Basically if you eat cloned meat of yourself it should be fine as you either already have prions, or you don’t already have prions. Prions manifest as either CJD if you got it naturally or Kuru if you got it through canibalism.

Quereller ,

Is muscle tissue even infectious? (Especially when grown from a few cells) Don’t you need to eat some brain or spinal cord?

arken ,

I think the brain is only where the concentration of prions is highest and therefore the most dangerous part of an infected person to eat, but you can also get it from other body parts. But I’m no expert… haven’t eaten anyone in years actually.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Yes, it can pass through muscle/meat. That’s what was getting people with CJD and possibly this zombie deer stuff.

Affidavit ,

Eating brain/spinal cord is not required to contract a prion disease; prions can also be spread through any biological medium where protein material is located, for instance, blood. This is the reason why those who have CJD or other TSEs in their family are unable to donate blood.

This is also how vampires became extinct.

Quereller ,

Yes, I think I was wrong with my assumption.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

The blood relative thing is kind of silly, it should be mothers only but it also bans you if your father contracted it after you were born.

over_clox , in Scratch that. Let's do an airstrike instead.

That’s why I don’t wipe 👍

mostNONheinous ,
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chowdertailz , in Just why??

I don’t want to touch your hands. Especially if you were being a bit of an ass. Simple as that.

scytale , (edited )

It’s possible to drop change into someone’s hands without physically touching them though. I don’t like physical contact either, and on the rare times I pay with cash, I hand it to the cashier without making physical contact.

I remember there was one store I went to that the cashier literally put the change on the counter right beside my outstretched hand and open palm, every time. And it was annoying to pick up change from a stainless steel counter. I know I was being petty, but when I noticed the pattern, I started putting change on the counter (if I paid with coins) when paying so she could experience having to pick up coins one by one from a stainless steel surface.

callouscomic ,

It may be possible but that doesn’t mean people respect that. Some people go out of their way to touch you when receiving change back by moving their hand up and closing close to yours before youre done letting go of the change. I remember this shit when I was a cashier. Hated it.

The simpler answer is not to even allow it or get close at all.

I love those auto dispensers for change.

Or cards. Use cards.

DakRalter ,
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Yeah I’ve had a couple of customers outright wrap their hand around mine as I handed them their change. It’s creepy and invasive. If it happened enough times, I’d just start putting everyone’s change on the counter.

MattWalsh OP , in ruh roh
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guys it’s ok he can say it because him and Shaggy are in a loving gay relationship

;3cin fact Shaggy has personally told me that he loves feeling Scooby’s massive dane knot pulsating in his hole, and that sometimes they stay tied for as much as 30 minutes

Evil_Shrubbery , in MOM PLEASE I NEED IT

Mom: “We have step sloppy at home.”

Karyoplasma , in Scratch that. Let's do an airstrike instead.

My biggest fear. That’s why I only shit at home or in a room I paid for.

motor_spirit ,

Free bathrooms are often the most judgemental

UnderpantsWeevil , in Ah sweet!
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“Eat my ass!”

“Don’t mind if I do.”

Dr_01000111 , in Don't give up
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I have found the truest of posts

steal_your_face ,
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I can finally log out. I am now freeeeeee

TheFriendlyDickhead ,

Oh you just think that. Should have scrolled one post further and you would have seen the greatest shitpost of all time. Even better than the one you thought was good

NoSpiritAnimal , in What if?
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Bishma , (edited ) in Just why??
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“They told me to stop touching the customers. Have a nice day.”

https://i.postimg.cc/Vvt5RtW1/image.png

Thcdenton , in Scratch that. Let's do an airstrike instead.

All always “hell yeah brother!” as I’m pushin logs

bluestribute , in Ah sweet!

I’ve always wanted Antiviral to be real!

mozz , in Just why??
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They don't want to touch you, or to depend on your qualifications in order to fulfill the task

Putting the change on the counter leaves 0 chance that you'll fuck up the process for them, in any way

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