Funny, but we use the same thing about the Devil beating his wife in Romania as well. At least in Transylvania we do. It’s surprising to see this being used in the US as well. I wonder where it originated from.
Big difference between some dudes testimony and hard irrifutable evidence. A few officials can say whatever they like. Until you get hard XCOM level evidence in front of a public hearing the government won’t confirmed shit.
The real reason ayylmaos will never be confirmed until the hand is forced is that a huge majority of the global population ascribe to a religion absolutely incompatable with the existence of extraterrestrial life. Sentient non-human highly technological extraterrestrial life at that.
The moment it is confirmed there will 100% be mass panics by religious fundamentalist that space is inhabited by demons or whatever rationalization they pick to ensure their beliefs are still unquestioningly correct and the god given truth of 2000 year old scripture is maintained. In some areas like the USA bible belt or the middle east this will be devistating and cause actual long lasting damage to global society at large. Its a bottle of lightning all the space age nations of the world have deemed not worth opening for societal and economic stability. If these people really have the goods to back up their talk, they will be epstiened unless they take the upmost caution.
Are you aware that the overwhelming majority of Christians are taught to not take the Bible literally? Seriously from day one the Roman Catholic Church has held that position because that’s the exact same position the majority of rabbis at the time held about the Hebrew texts. Christianity could easily account for other life but most of Islam takes the Quran literally as Muhammed is supposed to have “fixed the mistakes” of the older texts. Simply put The Vatican wouldn’t need to do much to account for aliens.
I said ‘Fundimentalist’ as in people taught to legitimately believe everything in the bible/scripture is to be taken literally and everything that is evidence against the stories being true is actually lies and deceptions of the devils doing. Perhaps fundamentalist is technically the wrong word for them but thats whst comes to my mind.
I have spoken to enough Christians to know that there exist both rational people willing to accept their scripture may have some symbolic metaphor and I’ve spoken to batshit insane zelots who warp their subjective reality to match whatever they are told to believe and reject all evidence otherwise. I’ve encountered the latter more often than you might like to think. Even if they are not the majority there is enough of them to do serious damage. I would be interested to see some statistical numbers based on polls if you have the sauce on that.
There are many angry, hate filled, unquestioning people who use religion as a means to an end. Im not just talking about any one religion either, its not about that. A mixture of poverty, mental illness, cognitive dissonance, and cult like brainwashing tactics will get you the kind of person willing to burn everything to the ground. They want nothing more than to kill everyone and everything that doesnt agree with them in the name of god. If you know where to look you will whole communities of them. They exist.
Meh… I would bet most Christians ascribe to the same sort of philosophy that my pastor did back when I was in high school. He always said, “I don’t know if there are aliens out there, but if there are they need Jesus too.”
It’s a bit silly, but he was also a creationist. If he could be fine with aliens but not evolution, I imagine the same is true for most other religious people.
I don’t understand why people think religious people will go bananas if aliens are confirmed. There will be unrest at the beginning, sure, and probably more than one dangerous alien based cult will rise. But most of the religious leaders will just adjust their narratives and try to retain as many followers as possible. And most followers will be eager to take explanations and not challenge their core beliefs. If I remember correctly, the Catholic church said they are not opposed to the idea of intelligent life and civilizations outside earth, so it seems like they are somehow prepared.
I think most religious leaders are smart enough not to rush to the “aliens are demons” conclusion, specially if they are proven not to be hostile (I assume they are not if the government are dealing with them).
Why stop at religious people? Most people probably wouldn’t be able to go back to their lives after discovering there’s a whole new dimension of things out there and there’s a possibility to travel and see very weird things.
So far we’ve sort of come to terms that we’re alone in the universe and the great void is unexplorable. But what if it isn’t? Wouldn’t everyone just want to go out and do some Firefly-grade shit? How would one just go back to performing risk assessments for insurance companies after learning that?
Magic is just what you don’t understand. Everything is a mechanism. Even if there was magic, a human soul, the afterlife, God, it would still operate under certain logical rules and principles. Eventually, unless there was something keeping us from obtaining knowledge, we would be able to apply science to magical forces. Science will eventually understand everything it is possible to understand, which might honestly be everything.
Yeah people used to think this way. But the Halting Problem proved that not everything in mathematics is solvable. If we can’t solve every mathematical problem, there’s gonna be things in science that aren’t solvable either.
Sorry for upsetting your belief system, but it’s simply not possible for us to know everything. Just one of those quirks of life, it’s been mathematically proven that not everything can be proven.
If we can’t solve every mathematical problem, there’s gonna be things in science that aren’t solvable either.
Not at all, math and science are very different things. Math is a fixed system of rules that we constructed. Within these rules, there are possible statements which cannot be proven or disproved using only those same rules.
Science is different, we don’t know the rules but we observe, measure, and make predictions. It’s not possible to “solve” physics but that’s because we can’t make infinitely accurate measurements, there’s nothing systemic to prevent us from making a complete theory.
Why? The answer is known. You can easily proof it by contradiction. Therefore the halting problem is unsolvable.
This solution actually provides some good insight into other problems and wether or not they are solvable. It is useful, even though the negative result might seem disappointing.
I never said we’d be able to understand or prove everything, just that there is some logic underpinning reality. It might be that some things are fundamentally unknowable, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist to be known, just that we’ll never know it.
I also don’t get what the halting problem proves about reality. It might be possible that infinities or unresolvable results are real, so long as we can still exist. The cosmological principle proves that we have to live in a reality that it is possible for us to exist in, otherwise we wouldn’t be here to observe it. So long as the infinities or uncomputable problems don’t prevent our existence, it might represent reality. If the equation doesn’t allow us to exist, then it doesn’t represent reality.
The crazy fuck actually did it. They Must’ve seen that John Oliver episode where they did a man on the street segment about privacy and everyone was like “I got nothing to hide” until their private information was replaced in questions as “your dick pics” at which point everyone started questioning it all of a sudden.
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