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iAvicenna , in I'm just gonna stick to slotted, thanks
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the worst is not when the screwdriver is fucked but the screw is. That is some huge pain in the ass

Maalus ,

Torx doesn’t get fucked though, compared to alan or philips

Somethingcheezie ,

What about square drive… where does it fit in

DrBob ,

Robertson! Say his name!

Somethingcheezie ,

I was saying it in Mercian for our southern neighbours

Maalus ,

I’m not american so you wasted it anyways

Silic0n_Alph4 ,

That’s right, it goes in the square hole.

spicytuna62 ,
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Fun fact: There are plenty of times a screw that looks like a Philips head is also compatible with a square drive. I’ve mostly seen this on electrical outlets and Ikea furniture.

I don’t know why Robertson/square drives aren’t more common. They’re stable and they resist stripping and rounding.

FrederikNJS ,

You mean Pozidriv?

Test_Tickles ,

Robertson is the proto-torxs. It is a vast improvement over Phillips but has a tendency to snap the head off due to the increased amount of torque you can apply. Torxs maintains the amount of torque that a Robertson can apply, but adds some material back to the head giving it a little extra strength.
It’s really unfortunate that the greed of Robertson and Ford got in the way of such a vastly superior design.

uis ,

That much of material is not much of material.

iAvicenna ,
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wait really? I would imagine those small corners would easily get flattened compared to something with deeper ridges like philips

SparrowRanjitScaur , (edited )

Phillips strips way, way easier than Torx. Stripping generally happens when a screwdriver cams out, or pops out of the screw. Here are some excerpts from Wikipedia of Torx vs Phillips.

The hexalobular socket screw drive, often referred to by the original proprietary brand name Torx ( /ˈtɔːrks/) or by the alternative generic name star drive, uses a star-shaped recess in the fastener with six rounded points. It was designed to permit increased torque transfer from the driver to the bit compared to other drive systems. The drive was developed in 1967[44] by Camcar Textron.[45] Torx is very popular in the automotive and electronics industries because of resistance to cam out, and extended bit life, as well as reduced operator fatigue by minimizing the need to bear down on the drive tool to prevent cam out.

And Philips on the other hand:

The Phillips screwdriver design has a tendency to cam out during operation due to angled contact surfaces which create an axial force pushing the driver out of the recess as torque is applied. Despite popular belief,[2] there is no clear evidence that this was a deliberate design feature. When the original patent application was filed in 1933, the inventors described the key objectives as providing a screw head recess that (a) may be produced by a simple punching operation and which (b) is adapted for firm engagement with a driving tool with “no tendency of the driver to cam out”.

I’m not sure about Allen. It doesn’t cam out very much, but it does still strip a lot easier than Torx. Probably due to the smaller contact points.

hydrospanner ,

Well said.

And with the hex/Allen, it’s the small contact points as well as the smaller volume of material that needs to be deformed or removed before slippage can occur, as well as the angle of force on the contact point.

With a hex, the contact point and direction are such that the tool is effectively trying to scrape off material at an angle, and if/when it succeeds even a little bit, it’s now much more prone to fail.

With a Torx, the contact area might still be small, but it’s being applied to the lobe in a more perpendicular direction, so rather than a scraping failure, it’s more of a force that is pushing directly against steel instead of scraping. Not that it can’t fail, but the route to failure is significantly less likely.

Maalus ,

Yeah, it was made with torque in mind (like, it’s in the name lol). For smaller screws using an impact, you can expect to break the screw before you strip the torx on top. And by smaller I don’t mean tiny, more like M4, M5

uis ,

Maybe because different material? Obviously CrV steel won’t get fucked like chinesium, no matter the shape.

nightwatch_admin , in Post a prompt, have an art from this insane russian

“Yoghurtzilla” спасибо

andrew_bidlaw OP ,
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Пожалуйста, приходите ещё.

andrew_bidlaw OP ,
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I initially thought it’s a response to some other picture, lol.

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/360cefec-d553-4973-a5f7-3a28b09529b3.jpeg

nightwatch_admin ,

Thanks, спасибо! I love it

hanke , in Post a prompt, have an art from this insane russian

Take any photo from my posts and draw a replica of it!

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hanke ,

Beautiful, thank you very much. Will print and have on desk.

Abba , in Post a prompt, have an art from this insane russian

Xbox blimp

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Socsa , in You can see the motion too

This better not awaken anything in me

HaHaHamennn , in Post a prompt, have an art from this insane russian

A tall man stands among the wind generators and tries to be like them

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SaintMark , in Post a prompt, have an art from this insane russian

Draw how you are feeling. A self portrait of the soul.

andrew_bidlaw OP , (edited )
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Hard to say, hard to draw. It still feels I’m trying to piece myself together.

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/ebfc4ca0-ca9b-4c77-8215-b3a91673ebc3.jpeg

ma11en , in Yet closer to divine happiness.

Start off with none of the god nonsense, it’s much better!

dogsoahC , in pov

Oh, you’re gonna get bread by her.

ICastFist , in Post a prompt, have an art from this insane russian
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A headshot of Tony Stark, like those where he’s inside his Iron Man suit, only he’s still configuring his Arch Linux btw.

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figjam , in Post a prompt, have an art from this insane russian

2 trains a diesel and a steam locomotive fighting each other.

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FMEEE , in I'm just gonna stick to slotted, thanks

АW Drive On Top

wyrmroot , in You can see the motion too

Reminds me of a classic bit from a comedy podcast (My Brother, My Brother, and Me) youtu.be/6YqXXBKBPRI?si=_Bmjlr2LIQh56Fhi

Abnorc , in Post a prompt, have an art from this insane russian

Small fandoms? Engineer from Risk of Rain 2 kneeling down and petting a turret like it’s a cat. If you feel up to it, they have bustling fungus.

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Fades , in Post a prompt, have an art from this insane russian

How the fuck we supposed to know which small fandoms you don’t know???

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