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KeefChief13 ,

Wit da SKALD reference

NigelFrobisher ,

It gets even worse when you know Europe and Asia are the same continent.

echodot ,

Errh, sort of.

It really depends on your definition of Continent. Most people would argue that Asia is a different continent.

Ummdustry ,

I feel like most people actually don’t care that much about Continental Boundries to give an Argument either way.

jabathekek ,
@jabathekek@sopuli.xyz avatar

Geologists, scornfully staring at you.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Our accepted definition of what a continent is sucks. Why is Europe considered a continent but India is not? Every argument for Europe being a separate continent applies even better to India.

Europe just wanted to be special and controlled science at the time, change my mind.

fogstormberry ,

I propose we reclassify india as a dwarf continent

deuleb_biezelbob ,
@deuleb_biezelbob@programming.dev avatar

the pluto of continents

yournamehere ,

india has HALF the landmass…seriously…thats not a continent

sugar_in_your_tea ,

If we’re going based on landmass, shouldn’t Russia be its own continent? Russia is almost twice as big as Europe, and it’s culturally unique compared to its neighbors.

yournamehere ,

well it spans two continents…and also it is russia, so.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Yup, but which two depends on how you define “continent.” It either spans Europe and Asia if you go by common definitions of continents, or it spans Eurasia and North America if you look at tectonic continental plates.

Lumisal ,

It has to do with geology. Europe basically swallowed up and mixed in with another continent a long time ago after Pangea broke up

sugar_in_your_tea ,

it really doesn’t:

In contrast, the present eastern boundary of Europe partially adheres to the Ural and Caucasus Mountains, which is somewhat arbitrary and inconsistent compared to any clear-cut definition of the term “continent”.

The current division of Eurasia into two continents now reflects East-West cultural, linguistic and ethnic differences which vary on a spectrum rather than with a sharp dividing line.

There’s really no physical reasoning for it. You can read on in that article for the historical basis if you want (basically, Homer and other Greeks coined it, and it just kind of stuck), but it’s really quite arbitrary where they actually draw the line.

Lumisal ,

My bad, should clarify I was referring to this specifically:

In geology, a continent is defined as “one of Earth’s major landmasses, including both dry land and continental shelves”. The geological continents correspond to seven large areas of continental crust that are found on the tectonic plates, but exclude small continental fragments such as Madagascar that are generally referred to as microcontinents. Continental crust is only known to exist on Earth.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

If we’re talking about tectonic plates, then:

  • Europe is part of Eurasia
  • Arabian peninsula, India, and far east Russia aren’t part of it, but we’d probably include them as subcontintents

We’d end up with the following continents:

  • N. America (technically includes far east Russia) w/ Caribbean subcontinent
  • S. America
  • Eurasia w/ Indian and Arabian subcontintents
  • Africa w/ Somali subcontinent
  • Australia
  • Antarctica

Image.

Honestly, that would be a much more satisfactory definition than the current one, which seems to be “large landmass bigger than Greenland with logical separations when they’re too big.” What I really don’t understand is when people say Europe and Asia are separate, but N. America and S. America are combined, that’s logically inconsistent.

BakedGoods ,

India is part of the Indian subcontinent which is part of the Eurasian continent. This is the official goelogical definition. Don’t listen to uneducated children on the internet.

BakedGoods ,

Not sort of. Most people are idiots. There are seven geological continents and here’s a list of them:

Africa Antarctica Australia Eurasia North America South America Zealandia

These contain various subcontinents.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

What’s even weirder is when someone claims Europe is a separate continent from Asia, yet N. America and S. America are the same continent.

jabathekek ,
@jabathekek@sopuli.xyz avatar

Anon baits people into recommending good RPGs

Tylerdurdon ,

Is Rockstar US? I considered the red dead series a quite hellacious RPG. Is GTA an RPG?

BakedGoods ,

The publisher is but the studio that makes GTA games is in Scotland. Not sure about Red Dead. Probably a collaborative effort between their studios, most of which are in the UK.

tagoth ,

Rockstar is a US company, but the developers of GTA are Rockstar North in the UK. They used to be their own company developing GTA, when they were bought by Rockstar.

Red Dead is definetly an american game though.

echodot ,

Rockstar is a British company that has a studio in the US but they’re not an American company. Rockstar North is their original studio.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Rockstar was British, but it’s American now. HQ is in NYC, along with their parent company, Take Two.

DarkThoughts ,

I have not played Red Dead but GTA is definitely not an RPG. It's an action adventure and at least from what I've seen from the former I'd expect it to be the same.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Red Dead is just GTA with horses and a way better story. Calling it an RPG is a massive stretch.

ThisIsNotHim ,
@ThisIsNotHim@sopuli.xyz avatar

What elements that you consider core to the genre is it missing?

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Generally, RPGs involve character progression through stats, and RDR really doesn’t have that. It’s an action adventure game with an emphasis on storytelling.

RampantParanoia2365 ,

For an Action RPG, decision making, conversation options, and of course a skill trees are necessary. Basically you need to be able to shape your character to “play a role”.

Bonsoir ,

Fallout, Wasteland, The Elder Scrolls.
Also smaller games come to my mind, like Child of Light or South Park: The Stick Of Truth which are made by Ubisoft Montreal.

loutr ,
@loutr@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yeah, “western RPGs” from a couple decades ago were mostly made in the US. Then Bethesda bought interplay and it all went to shit.

And thanks for reminding me of Child of Light, I’ve had it in my library for ages, installing it to my steam deck right now :)

proceduralnightshade ,

Stick of truth was developed by Obsidian

Bonsoir ,

You’re right it was only published by Ubi. The Fractured but Whole was developed by Ubisoft*

primrosepathspeedrun ,

well… fallout, wasteland.

pillars of eternity? I don’t know if americans made it, but it was pretty intensely american.

Voroxpete ,

You’re never gonna believe this friend, but Montreal is actually in Canada.

pound_heap ,

Still not Europe or Asia, innit?

echodot ,

Oh yes the three continents. Europe Asia and everywhere else.

captainlezbian ,

Ah Canada famously not in the same continent as the United States. Absolutely not in the Americas

Voroxpete ,

Never in my life have I seen someone say “Americans” and mean “People from the continent of America.”

FrowingFostek ,

South American banger RPG when?

Bonsoir ,

Well, it would be a bit unfair to talk about “European” games and “Asian” games, and on the other side “USA-made” games.
There are three countries in North America, we should at least include the two others.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Would be nice to include S. America as well, since at least some areas consider that part of the same continent as N. America (not sure why though, esp. when those same people claim Europe is separate from Asia…).

scbasteve7 ,

North America*. Besides that, people often group Canadians and Americans together quite often. The two countries are very similar culturally. I have seen it become more and more common to say North Americans when talking about things culturally. When it comes to politics or the specific country itself, of course it makes sense to separate them.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Yup, Canada is our hat, and we’re Canada’s pants. Not sure why we’re not wearing a shirt though…

ieatpwns ,

Fun fact Canada is in North America

CommanderCloon ,

Fallout and TES are “alright” at most, and extremely boring theme parks at worst

Zagorath ,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

Pathfinder - Asia

Uhh, no? Paizo is an American company. Based in Redmond, Washington, according to Wikipedia.

iAmTheTot , (edited )

The post is clearly talking about video games. It is reasonable to conclude they are talking about the Pathfinder video games, which were not made by Paizo, but by Owlcat Games. Whether or not Cyprus is part of Asia is kind of debatable, but they are certainly not American.

dabu ,
@dabu@lemmy.world avatar

I think they meant Owlcat Games, creators of Pahtfinder Kingmaker and Wrath of the Righteous video games. They are based in Cyprus but their developers are all over the place from what I know (so it’s more Europe-Asia kind of thing but I may be wrong)

Tar_alcaran ,

Honestly, everyone’s developers are all over the place. Almost every studio hires contractors from wherever to do things as basic as spell checking to pathfinding to artwork. Hell, sometimes they outsource story writing too.

echodot ,

For RPGs they almost always outsource the writing. Crafting a good story is not really a skill that a lot of the major developers have a lot of call for (normally they just have you shoot the bad guys because) so they don’t have people on staff for it. In RPGs stories are a lot more important though, so they actually have to put some effort in.

Zagorath ,
@Zagorath@aussie.zone avatar

Aren’t most RPG video games developed by companies that primarily do RPG video games? Like, Warhorse was founded specifically to make KCD. Fallout Shelter is the only non-RPG Bethesda has developed since 2008. And The Witcher Adventure Game and the Gwent games are the only non-RPGs CD Projekt Red have ever done.

alilbee ,

pathfinding

Pathfinders, you could say

Tyr_Raidho_Othala ,
@Tyr_Raidho_Othala@reddthat.com avatar

Well, the Diablo series was quite good

Iheartcheese ,
@Iheartcheese@lemmy.world avatar

was

jabathekek ,
@jabathekek@sopuli.xyz avatar

I blissfully remember getting my hands on the Hellfire expansion for the first one; I didn’t even know it existed until my uncle gave it to me.

primrosepathspeedrun ,

wasn’t blizzard north canadian, though?

Hector ,

I thought Canada’s pride and glory was Eidos Montreal and now you’re telling me Blizzard North was here too? Oh goodie!

DarkThoughts ,

California IIRC.

primrosepathspeedrun ,

I know blizzard (main) was in anaheim. just south (and sprawling with, but in orange county so nobody sane would ever go there) of los angeles. might be what you’re thinking of? but also you could be right, and it was in, like, glendale or some shit.

DarkThoughts ,

Blizzard North (formerly known as Condor) was an American video game development studio based in San Mateo, California. The studio was the Bay Area division of Blizzard Entertainment, known for its Diablo series. The company was originally based in Redwood City, California, before moving a short distance away to San Mateo, with Blizzard proper being based in Irvine, southern California.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blizzard_North

primrosepathspeedrun ,

shit. okay, close on half.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

?? DIsneyland is in Anaheim. Not sure why you imply it’s an armpit.

primrosepathspeedrun ,

its in orange county.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Yes, Anaheim is in Orange County, I’m not sure what you’re getting at. Orange County certainly has some nasty sprawl, but it also has some nice beaches.

primrosepathspeedrun ,

the problem with OC is not geography.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Not sure what to tell you then.

I don’t like any part of CA between SF and LA (San Diego is nice, as are parts north of SF), but Orange County really doesn’t stand out to me as particularly bad. It’s better than LA County in many ways. But the region has some decent geography, so I like to visit occasionally (I live out of state, but my in-laws live on the edge of LA County and Orange County).

primrosepathspeedrun ,

wow, not even monterrey? san jose? does oakland count?

the problem with OC is fascism and the worst christians, and how they build their enclaves. go there five hundred years ago and its probably my fourth or fifth favorite part of the continent.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Yup, Oakland and everything in that area counts. I’ll even throw in Sacramento.

I’m sure there are decent spots here and there, but I really don’t like visiting any part of it. My in-laws really want us to move there, but I’ve told them CA is off the table. I hate the traffic, people, smog (LA only), and sheer amount of litter. And yes, all of those apply to SF, except the smog. Oh, and transit totally sucks, though it’s a bit better in SF.

The weather is and geography are both nice, but the rest absolutely sucks. If they fix their transit issues, I’d consider visiting more often, and maybe even moving there. But as long as I have to deal with the sprawl and all the nonsense that comes with it, I’m not going to.

I’m currently in Utah, and apart from seasonal smog (gets really bad during inversion season), it’s a really nice place to live. Transit kinda sucks, but at least the transit that’s there is usable and goes to good places. I’m probably going to move away eventually (looking at North Carolina), but I’m really enjoying the mountains for now.

primrosepathspeedrun ,

I’m not a fan of los angeles in general. it’s not my favorite city. not even in my top five in california.

but orange county is like existentially evil.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Eh, I haven’t had any real issues there, aside from the stuff I hate about California in general. It’s just… wall to wall suburbia. So, pretty bland, but honestly, that’s probably where I’d live if I had to live somewhere in the greater LA area. And I’d complain constantly about the state of mass transit (and probably live near one of the Metrolink lines).

primrosepathspeedrun ,

metrolink is a purely hypothetical train, last I checked.

sugar_in_your_tea ,

Yup, and there’s like a one in a million chance I’d move to CA, so I’m okay with it being hypothetical.

Iheartcheese ,
@Iheartcheese@lemmy.world avatar

When Canada makes good shit we just claim it as American. People rarely call us on it.

primrosepathspeedrun ,

oh. okay then, yeah, diablo, fav game as a young kid, local california studio, whoo!

Buddahriffic ,

WoW was pretty good, too. Maybe too good. It had my hyper focus for like 4 years. I wish I could get a tenth as into games now as I was into WoW about 20 years ago.

NaibofTabr ,

Dungeons and Dragons

jabathekek ,
@jabathekek@sopuli.xyz avatar

The OG RPG.

NaibofTabr ,

Exactly. All RPGs can trace their lineage back to Gygax.

jabathekek ,
@jabathekek@sopuli.xyz avatar

(☝◞‸◟)☞

primrosepathspeedrun ,

there are some pretty cool people with some pretty terrible ancestors. I don’t think you want to apply this logic; it gets real gross real quick.

primrosepathspeedrun ,

yes but they said good.

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