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Any good games that break the mold

It feels like new games are just more of the same, with no real meaning. However I recently started playing “Return of the Obra Dihn” and love open ended deduction in it. It feels like I’m actually figuring things out by myself without being handheld through it. Are there any other games that don’t coddle the player that you guys recommend?

dwindling7373 ,

I enjoyed Carto and Paradise Killer, as far as “different and creative” goes.

whyrat ,

Check out Fez if you haven’t already. Also Tunic does a great job of starting out basic & breaking precedent.

Console_Modder ,
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There’s 4 puzzle games called The Room that I found really interesting. It starts with a puzzle box that opens up with each solved puzzle to eventually reveal spaces within the box that are bigger than the box itself. There’s something supernatural about these puzzle boxes and you get little clues about where it came from and who made it.

bionicjoey ,

If you like Obra Dinn, you’ll love Outer Wilds

Kecessa ,

The Case of the Golden Idol, can’t believe no one mentioned that…

deluxeparrot ,

It uses the same puzzle solving mechanic as Return of the Obra Dinn in diorama style scenes.

Fantastic game.

themoonisacheese ,
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I heard good word about Paradise Killer, in which you’re also a detective and must figure out the truth

The outer wilds is amazing. You should play it.

B0NK3RS ,
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The Long Dark

Survival game set in the cold Canadian wilderness. Most “survival” games are actually just boring crafting games but TLD is very different for me as it is mostly about exploring in the freezing cold with natural predators around to keep you on edge.

Eyck_of_denesle ,

I love Sam and Max

ImplyingImplications ,

Personally, I really liked Papers, Please. You play as a customs agent checking people’s paperwork as they seek entry into your country. The idea of the game is very simple but it’s surprisingly good at telling a story and putting you in situations that are morally difficult.

bionicjoey ,

Funny, that game is by the same creator as the game OP mentioned.

Wrufieotnak , (edited )

Specifically similar to RotOD is Heaven’s Vault in that its pretty nonlinear, not hand holdy and that you figure out (a foreign language in this case). But it is more adventure style than RotOD.

Another one already mentioned Outer Wilds (not Outer Worlds!) and I completely agree and recommend it as well!

In general I have to say I disagree that new games are more of the same. We are in a golden age regarding new games and game genres. It’s just, that there are so many games, that there are also many similar ones. And the big studios are the worst in that regard, just bury AAA and start to love Indie games!

As example, games which are different from others and not already mentioned in this thread:

  • Eastshade (you are a painter exploring a fantasy world, solving quests by painting pictures)
  • Rain World (you are a small animal trying to survive a hostile simulated world, you need to learn how the interaction between you, NPCs and the world works)
  • INSIDE (nearly pure atmosphere & no gameplay, but still great!)
  • Papers, Please (you are a government worker who has to check people coming over the border)
  • Her Story (you try to figure out what happened to a person via searching videos from her interrogation by the police)
  • What Remains of Edith Finch (part game anthology, part great story to connect those “mini games”)
  • A Little To the Left (OCD in game form)
  • Ancestors: Humankind Odyssey (you play a primate tribe and evolve it towards Homo Sapiens in an african tropical forest)
  • Edit: and how could I forget: Disco Elysium, the greatest RPG! without combat, only social encounters and technical problems to solve in a wonderful world full of memorable and interesting characters.
Tellore ,

Dread Delusion:

  • Great plot, lore, and writing in general
  • A lot of moral dilemmas to solve and hard choices to make
  • Choices don’t change much in gameplay, but they change a lot in writing and that is interesting to read
  • Doesn’t handhold player much, but is way smaller than Morrowind for example, way less content and side quests and thus feels more linear
  • Lowpoly/lowres and kinda rough even by lofi standards, but certain consistent aesthetic which creates coherent worlds that are fun to explore
  • Combat is way too easy, even bosses are not challenging; recently hard mode was added, but I haven’t tried
  • There are some minor bugs and glitches
windowsphoneguy ,
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Not the same, but Into The Breach has become the one game I regularly return to. The ruleset is so simple and everything is laid out, including anticipating opponent moves. Just a great series of small puzzles

SmilingSolaris ,

Man. I’ve been staring at this box trying to find the words for why you should play Pathologic 2. It’s hard, especially without spoiling anything. It is a game about a surgeon named artemy burakh who is tasked by fate to save a town from a plague. It is as if Russian Literature grew legs and used them to kick you in the dick. It is emotionaly a lot. It is skillfully a lot. It is mentally a lot and you are on a time limit and it is not fair. But it has a message for you. There is a beauty to that message and if I could I would force every person on this planet to experience it.

But you will have to bleed for it. Please play it.

MarcomachtKuchen ,

Is this playable for someone who is a bit sensitive towards blood, but really sensitive towards arteries?

SmilingSolaris ,

Blood plays a very large part in both the story and game

Arteries also play a very large part in both.

The game would definitely make you think and confront those sensitivities directly and often.

MarcomachtKuchen ,

Thanks for the answer. Seems like I need to skip this one. Shame since it looks really cool

SmilingSolaris ,

Just Incase it could make you reconsider, the game is disturbing in a myriad of ways, basically designed to touch deeply any person who engaged with it. It should be thought of less as a game ment to be enjoyable and more like art that you “should” experience. Though I understand it isn’t for everyone. Hell, vast majority of people who think it is for them dont finish the first day of the game. But there is a message in that game worth seeing. Either way, I had to try one more time. I respect your decision either way.

MarcomachtKuchen ,

Those are totally valid point and I thank you for making them. I need to see whether parts of the game feel tense which is fine, or they make me physically impossible for me to play, since some sort of description of blood and venes just makes my head spin and knocks me out sometimes.

I get the great artistic picture and how the game is not meant to be nice, since it does not deal with nice themes. I’m happy the artistic vision got through and it seems to be a succes based on community response

loo ,
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Not a puzzle game, but Noita throws you right in without any explanation or tutorial. Everything is trial and error to the point where people complain that you can’t figure things out without the wiki. Love the game though, one of the most unique games I know.

The Souls games never really held your hand either.

Hollow Knight, The Binding of Isaac and Elite Dangerous are other games I can think of that want you to figure things out.

leaky_shower_thought ,

chronoark lets you die and counts your deaths for you.

anything agatha christie/ hercule poirot is light detective work (good for kids and or newbies) with optional handholding

i remember there’s some good mystery modules with neverwinter nights

morrowind quests don’t coddle at all. they all look like journal entries.

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