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art ,
@art@lemmy.world avatar

I believe there is already plans in the timeline to bring Tumblr to the fediverse.

poVoq ,
@poVoq@slrpnk.net avatar

Given how crufty Wordpress is, I don’t even dare to imagine how bad the Tumblr backend must be that this is seen as an improvement by the developers.

herrcaptain ,

Right? At this point I’m just sticking with WordPress because I can’t be bothered to migrate a bunch of sites off of it. Every year for the past decade it’s felt jankier. Tumblr’s backend has to be a dumpster fire for this to seem like a good idea.

My criticism aside, WP still has the convenience factor of being the open source web platform that has a plugin for just about any need. Whether those plugins are gonna break for site or introduce interesting new vulnerabilities is a different discussion.

AmbiguousProps ,

You’re not alone, I’ve still got clients with WP sites and it feels more and more patchworky every time I use it. The vulnerabilities may keep me up at night, but it would take a ton of effort to move them over, and my clients certainly don’t want to pay for that.

Flamekebab ,
@Flamekebab@piefed.social avatar

Same boat here. I had some good times with it but these days it seems to be a bloated mess. Are there any good, lightweight alternatives these days?

jqubed ,
@jqubed@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been looking off and on for a few months, but it seems like there aren’t many options anymore like there were 20 years ago. A couple I’ve found are FlatPress and WriteFreely, but I haven’t tried any yet.

catloaf ,

Depends on what exactly you want to host. If you want commercially-hosted stuff, I’d stick with wordpress or whatever your host offers, but if you’re selfhosting I’d look in !selfhosted or github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted?….

Aatube ,

Could you elaborate?

poVoq ,
@poVoq@slrpnk.net avatar

Wordpress is a pile of decades old php code* that is held together with string and tape pretty much.

*php isn’t the problem itself, modern php is actually pretty nice.

Aatube ,

I'll take your word for it. Apparently tumblr and WordPress (and WordPress.com) are owned by the same company, so this change would make sense to reduce maintenance workload.

EldritchFeminity ,

This smells to me like WordPress reducing their workload more than anything since they own Tumblr (unless maybe there’s some sort of financial incentive to increasing the number of WordPress blogs?).

But also, considering that at one point in Tumblr’s history, you could edit other people’s posts, maybe it is an improvement.

arudesalad ,

Tumblr’s backend has been passed between several companies* for several decades, it’s a miracle it still works and can be updated

*some of which don’t even know what tumblr is

SorteKanin ,
@SorteKanin@feddit.dk avatar

This could indeed potentially lead to a future with tumblr on the fediverse. I don’t see why not 🤷

fartsparkles ,

Give it to meee

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Corvid ,

Tumblr announced they were gonna integrate with ActivityPub years ago. It’s been silence on the topic since then, hopefully this move to Wordpress is a step towards joining the Fediverse.

The link to the original TechCrunch article doesn’t seem to be working, but here’s a mirror on Slashdot: m.slashdot.org/story/407458

EldritchFeminity ,

The question is whether or not Tumblr users would want such a thing.

I feel like the same thing will happen like when WordPress introduced a (bad) TikTok/streaming clone called Tumblr Live. I think less than 10% of the userbase ever interacted with it, most of the community openly hated it, and the people who did use it largely didn’t use Tumblr themselves.

I could see Tumblr users actively finding a way to defederate their blogs from everything Fediverse related.

RobotToaster ,
@RobotToaster@mander.xyz avatar

Wordpress federation is pretty one directional, you can follow a blog from mastodon, but you can’t use your blog to follow other people.

PugJesus ,

Remember when Verizon paid a billion dollars to ruin Tumblr and get a fraction of that back for it?

Jake_Farm ,
@Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz avatar

Ruin it by removing porn?

Apytele ,

That was the whole purpose of tumblr so yeah. I kid, as I did get started on there at like 14 as a part of various Fandoms, but by the time I was 18 I had been using it for porn for quite some time, largely because fandom is also mostly for porn.

PugJesus ,

Regardless, many of us who didn’t use Tumblr for NSFW content left in solidarity with NSFW content creators, curators, and consumers. There was a very progressive attitude on Tumblr, and trying to impose puritan content restrictions to lure more advertisers didn’t sit well with the culture that had been established on Tumblr.

Apytele ,

Honestly this discussion also highlights the issue that what’s considered inappropriate varies widely and often changes both in terms of prejudice and in terms of context. Most people would agree that an image of a penis entering or inside of a vagina is pornographic unless it’s a medical diagram laying out the anatomical and physiological aspects like the one in the anatomy book my otherwise puritanical parents let me read at the age of six. Most people would agree that nudity is sexual except for, again, anatomical diagrams, but also many classical artistic depictions such as paintings and statues. Hand holding isn’t generally considered sexual except to some people if the people happen to be of the same sex but not if you come from a culture where hand holding is a normal level of intimacy for non sexual friends. Breasts are for some reason considered sexual in most of the areas heavily colonized by people from the places where lactose tolerance past childhood evolved but not most other places which is super handy if you like being able to feed infants. Most people agree that kissing for an extended period while rubbing areas close to the genitals is sexual, but often not enough to restrict it from being viewed by teenagers.

TLDR; what’s even considered “sexual” or “porn” can vary wildly and has historically been used to suppress education, various minorities, and general freedom of expression.

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