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Examples of racism on Lemmy?

In 4 things white people can do to start making the fediverse less toxic for Black people (DRAFT!) and its cross-posts, quite a few people said things like “maybe racism is a problem on Mastodon, but I don’t see it on Lemmy.” Then again, plenty of comments in the various threads were in fact examples of racism on Lemmy, so one takeaway is that at lot of people don’t see racism even when they’re looking at it. And helpful commenters pointed out some of the other patterns of racism on Lemmy. … but that wasn’t really the thrust of that discussion.

So I wanted to ask more generally, what are some of the examples you’ve seen of racism on Lemmy? Quotes and links are great, but also feel free just to describe examples or call out more general patterns!

Max_P ,
@Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me avatar

I’ve not seen any, but I’m also not subscribed to the kind of communities that would be prone to it. I did still manage to get some transphobia directed at me, which is wild because I’m cis.

That’s the thing with the fediverse, every instance has a slightly different view of the thing as a whole. That’s why picking an instance that aligns with your values matters. You’re not going to see much of that on blahaj or beehaw because those users get banned quickly, and problematic instances are defederated as a whole. The matching opposite instances exist too, some are made to be safe heavens for the extreme right, with all the *ism and *phobias going on there.

I recommend people of color to pick instances that supports them, which in turn means they have admins watching their back and shutting down racism quick.

The fediverse will have every problem that plagues other social medias, and it will be worse because unlike Reddit/Twitter, there isn’t a centralized authority to say no, that’s enough. The only way to deal with it is most big instances saying no and defederating those, but it’ll never go away fully, just hidden away.

ilovecheese ,
@ilovecheese@feddit.uk avatar

There’s currently only 1 user that I’ve noticed that keeps bringing race up.

rimu ,
@rimu@piefed.social avatar

Reasons why racism on Lemmy is less of an issue:

  • There are only a few Lemmy instances - those that harbor racism are easily defederated from.
  • Downvotes make bad content easy to detect, even if not reported.
  • Content is posted into communities, which have moderators. Hashtags on Mastodon are un-moderated.
  • Unlike mastodon, replies are sent to all instances so visibility is higher. No hiding in obscurity.
  • Federated networks tend to have a central hub - Lemmy.world is well moderated, unlike mastodon.social.
Cephalotrocity ,

If you want to see racism just check the modlog. My favourite feature on Lemmy.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

There was some super racist shit on here recently about how white people should stop posting. Really disgusting.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

Funny that not one example of racism existed in that post and you were asked multiple times to point it out, yet never did despite claiming it was in there.

How about you share an example of this “anti-Blackness in this thread”?

thenexusofprivacy OP ,

How about you look at this an other threads for the examples that others are describing?

Lost_My_Mind ,

My sister is the type that most would call “A Karen”. She finds problems when no problems exist. She’s not racist. The problems she finds are just mundane things that she uses to become angry over.

She ordered the fish at a resteraunt, and then when the waitress brought what she wanted, she complained that it was frozen fish. The waitress asked to clairify how she knew it wasn’t cooked if she hadn’t taken a bite yet, and my sister clairified that she was upset that this was a previously frozen fish, rather than a caught fresh fish from the lake.

She made no attempt to ask about this when ordering. She just threw a $100 bill on the table, and stormed off leaving the rest of the family behind.

When we were kids, she cried at my mom that her oreo had a crack in it. So she refused to eat it. So I ate it. Now she was crying that I ate her oreo.

My point is, there are people in life who LOOK for problems. And it’s like I tell my sister, if you look for problems, you’ll find pronlems. If you look for solutions you just might find help.

And it seems to me that OP here is looking for problems when they are so miniscule, that the rest of us are having difficulty finding proof of their existence.

Jimbo ,
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I have seen extremely little racism on Lemmy, but my instance is defederated from those places (.ml, Hexbear etc.) they blocked us themselves so we didn’t even have to do anything. So I definitely dont have the whole picture.

thenexusofprivacy OP ,

Good point, thanks. It’s great that mods are blocking sources of racism, although also means that people who don’t see can wind up thinking that there isn’t any racism.

Phenomephrene ,
@Phenomephrene@thebrainbin.org avatar

Mostly what I see with any level of frequency is troll posters spamming intentionally inflammatory memes in apparently random communities. I've reported and blocked every post like this that I've come across.

thenexusofprivacy OP ,

Thanks! Yeah, one of the dynamics is that when people quickly report and mods take the posts down quickly, most people don’t see them … which is good, but also means that it’s easy to believe that there isn’t any racism.

Gormadt ,
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I don’t typically see it on here and when I do I report that shit

Facebook, Reddit, and YouTube? Every day, Facebook loves to tell me how it doesn’t violate their rules though.

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