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User_4272894 ,

I can fathom no world where you’d want to trade away a multi billion dollar brand for a new brand you literally can’t SEO. What, you think your brand is gonna be more impressive that the generic variable, and a part of the alphabet?

“Follow me on Twitter” becomes “follow me on X”? “You should tweet that” becomes “you should X that”? The little blue bird on every shop window, website, and business card becomes a stylized letter that, hopefully, doesn’t look so threatening on the next iteration?

It’s a textbook case of brand destruction. I almost regret never making a Twitter in the first place, just so I could quit today, or at any of the hundred days in the past year where it got inexplicably worse without reason.

teolan ,
@teolan@lemmy.world avatar

“You should tweet that” becomes “you should X that”

“You should X-create” that

teolan ,
@teolan@lemmy.world avatar

And a tweet becomes an “X-cretion”

notapantsday ,

X-crement

callmepk ,
@callmepk@lemmy.world avatar

And retweet it become X-Forwarded-For it

model_tar_gz ,

It’s just a new form of messaging called X-communication.

oh wait.

mauns ,

It’s inspired by all the X-Twitter employees

Hiccup ,

We’re witnessing an X-tinction event in real time.

Voli ,

Ain’t X-ing a term for cutting something out of your life ?

sheilzy ,

Yes, and I was thinking how confusing it could be. A: “Hey, did you see that trend on X?” B: “What? No, I don’t talk to my ex anymore.”

azura ,

I should X that sounds like I should delete/close that. How apt.

shukufuku ,

Twitter is my ex

WhoRoger ,
@WhoRoger@lemmy.world avatar

To me it sounds like axe.

“Yep, brilliant. Axe it.”

Saneless ,

Jamie Kennedy’s show is about to become relevant again. You’ve been X’d!

rm_dash_r_star ,
@rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee avatar

The little blue bird on every shop window, website, and business card becomes a stylized letter that, hopefully, doesn’t look so threatening on the next iteration?

Haha, I know the most appropriate iteration, a red background with the X in a white circle.

Tyfud ,

Perhaps with each corner of the X at a 90 degree angle clockwise? You know, to add style points.

IanM32 ,
@IanM32@lemmy.world avatar

It makes the X go faster, everyone knows that.

ttmrichter ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/4e18ac26-8a3d-4b95-b94d-4b2a208ebe2e.png

ttmrichter ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/a1158919-bf54-4326-b145-9298938a0d1b.png

Master ,
@Master@lemmy.world avatar

Xing is short for kissing IE XOXO. So instead of tweeting we are now kissing!

SkaveRat ,

you should X that

You should x-crete that

Mars2k21 ,
@Mars2k21@kbin.social avatar

Its a terrible rebrand that pretty much comes because of Elon's impulses, or in other words, for shits and giggles. Regardless of this hilarious trashing of such a powerful brand, I'll have fun calling tweets "xeets" for a good week.

player1 ,

“Hey bros wanna see me light $40 billion on fire?”

dangblingus ,

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia spent good money to never have an Arab Spring again.

FoxBJK ,
@FoxBJK@midwest.social avatar

Which is nuts because they have a nationwide content filter and could just blacklist Twitter and be done with it in 5 minutes.

elrik ,

Please call them Elon’s x-crements instead.

Bogasse ,

It must be so horrible working “with” him. You’re trying to build something and every morning you must be frightened to see Elon hanging on a ladder because he thought it was so funny to draw dicks everywhere on the building, which would have you cancel everything you are working on.

Urbanfox ,

I’ve worked in a founder led business and this is why I quit.

I’d spend forever working on a project to build a satellite site then suddenly we don’t want that anymore - bin the recipes we want a full main site redbrand.

Bye.

Bogasse ,

Feel you, I’ve been working with this kind of person but he was pushed away a few weeks after my arrival. He still had time to make an impression though, his genius move was to tell each team that the others hated them, which had no effect because we talked to each others…

Tygr ,

Follow me on ten.

ttmrichter ,

He’s just a fan of Laurie Anderson. Give him some slack!

Let X = X

PipedLinkBot ,

Here is an alternative Piped link(s): piped.video/watch?v=UfOK0evCqZY

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.

danielton ,
@danielton@lemmy.world avatar

Watch out… language is a virus!

dangblingus ,

Destroying the brand and ruining twitter was always the goal. There’s a good reason why Saudi Arabia fronted half of the bill…

Hikiru ,
@Hikiru@lemmy.world avatar

“Hey, check out this X video”

Anafroj ,

He’s clearly laying the groundwork to sell it to Alphabet (Google’s parent company). /s

popemichael ,
@popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

This reminds me of the time that the movie XxX came out and it was difficult to find to pirate.

When you name yourself anything with a lot of X’s then your search engine results are going to point to adult entertainment over the product

miss_brainfart ,
@miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

And then you add the lead actor to the search terms and it gets even worse

Wodge ,
@Wodge@lemmy.world avatar

Just googled X, musk isn’t on the first page of results, absolute melon of a man.

Gork ,

When life gives you melon…

dangblingus ,

google is broken anyway after 2 decades of people fucking with the algo by offering SEO services. The search results are basically random now unless you really focus your search term.

Buddahriffic ,

Google should have added SEO detection that would allow a site to be near the top for enough time for an SEO consultant to get paid, then drop the site to page 4. SEO would have looked like a scam before long.

99nights ,

So the rebrand comes with X promising to be an app to replace everything?

X gonna give it to ya, X gonna deliver it to ya.

dot20 ,

Well, it sure sounds like X is delivering users to Mastodon.

And009 ,

Plot twist, Elon is a Mastodon marketer

xapr ,

It sounds like he’s trying to copy zombo.com (listen to the audio for at least 30 seconds to a minute - the animation is a little broken by now)

gunnm ,

He wants something like WeChat that does everything.

Haibane ,

Less than 1% of twitter users signed up to pay for twitter blue. And less than 1% of twitter users are going to do their banking through a social media site run by a megalomaniac. This is doomed to failure, just like it was 20 years ago.

As painful as it might be for him, this dude really needs to let go of his obsession with the letter X.

gunnm ,

Source it was 1%?

Haibane ,

That’s going to be challenging. The latest metrics show that only 0.2 percent of Twitter users are paying for Twitter Blue. Twitter Blue did have an estimated 116,000 confirmed signups on the web in March, up 138 percent from the month before, according to Similarweb. Still, that’s not nearly enough to make up for the lost money in advertising dollars.

www.vox.com/…/twitter-dying-elon-musk-x-company

joel_feila ,
@joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

He does know that Wechat is the everything app because of the authoritarian government, right…right?

gunnm ,

I think he knows well how it works.

Lucidlethargy ,

Serious question: Are Mastadon users just like kbin and Lemmy users, but with a character limit?

Hyphlosion ,
@Hyphlosion@donphan.social avatar

You mean, are we a part of the same Fediverse? Yes. I’m actually replying to you right now from my Mastodon account! Still not over how cool that is!

But yeah, there’s a character limit. The instance I’m from is donphan.social. Our character limit is 1,008.

Elevator7009 ,

Username checks out. I just checked out that instance because of the name, even though I have no intent of using Mastodon because I never liked Twitter. It’s like the perfect name for a Pokémon-themed Mastodon instance.

jantin ,

I tried Mastodon and failed. Lemmy is different IMO in that you can freely access, write on and read all lemmy communities from any Lemmy instance (and apparently from Mastodon). On Masto you’re quite siloed-in, can’t follow “local” from a thematic instance with an account on another (and in Lemmy you can follow thematic communities from all around the threadiverse), people won’t see your content unless they either actively follow you or read the local/global feed. Curating feed is a necessary effort and not too easy one since you only get to follow individual users.

CharlieAus ,

Mastadon is where the smart people hang out… X is the fascist site and Facebook/Threads is the frivolous and stupid site.

Ktheone ,

Nah, Facebook and x are both fascistic sides because of the amount of qanons and magats I’ve seen on facebook

CharlieAus ,

Hence why I haven’t had a Facebook or Instagram account in years.

samokosik ,
@samokosik@lemmynsfw.com avatar

Maybe if twitter keeps fucking shit up, mastodon will become mainstream haha. I would certainly love to see that.

Crass_Spektakel ,
@Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t want to rain on your parade but I’ll do it anyway: The numbers of active posts and members in Lemmy communities, even in the most active ones, are mindbogglingly low in comparison with Reddit, even in comparison to somethingawful what I still consider the dirty cousin of Reddit.

All the numbers are just two sizes lower than Reddit and then there is the atrocious web interface. I have stopped counting how often my posts got eaten, the reply button didn’t react and general stuff didn’t work at all.

adonis OP ,
@adonis@kbin.social avatar

we willget there eventually.
you can't compare a product that is decades old wuth something that's fairly new.

voxov7 ,
@voxov7@lemmy.world avatar

Why aren’t posts on mastodon called “toots”?

MargotRobbie ,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

But they…were?

gizmodo.com/mastodon-toot-retired-twitter-tweet-e…

Chadus_Maximus ,

They were called toots and they fucking got rid of it? How uncreative can you be!?

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

we can keep calling them toots

Owlchemist ,

I vote for calling them twats instead

MudMan ,
@MudMan@kbin.social avatar

People still use it all the time, often ironically.

I'll say that, fart jokes aside, I like just saying "posts" for everything because at this point, and in an interconnected set of networks where we're all using multiple services I've frankly outgrown the need to brand each bit of text I spew onto the Internet. It's the same reason I say "I'll text you" instead of "I'll whatsapp you" or whatever.

psycrow ,

TL;DR: The lead dev is German and had no idea at the time that toot was American slang for farting, he thought it was just an elephant/mastodon noise.

REdOG ,
@REdOG@lemmy.world avatar

I’m just here to spread the good word about old.lemmy.world

TheArstaInventor ,
@TheArstaInventor@kbin.social avatar

Or Kbin! Kbin can do both microblogging and link aggregation/discussion. Tbh departing Twitter users coming to Mastodon, and reddit refugees are brought together on Kbin.

The "all-in-one" method acomplished by Kbin is a huge feat, especially when it's built by a single person from scratch (ie; not based on lemmy codebase wise) and still much more ActivityPub compatible.

Kbin is sadly very underrated imo.

bassomitron ,

It needs a mobile app to take off, imo.

Additionally, since it is just one guy (that I’m aware of), I’m not sure how sustainable it is for him. I believe he’s been surviving off some EU grant and donations, but once the grant runs out and donations slow, the server costs for delivering content to tens of thousands of users every day are going to start being pretty rough to handle. Has he explained what his plan is for long term sustainability?

1chemistdown ,
@1chemistdown@kbin.social avatar

@ArtemisApp is in beta right now. @hariette has been hard at work. I look forward to trying it soon. Hopefully. I’m not on discord, and that’s where most people are getting beta.

can ,

There’s a beta sign up form. I got an invite and I was never on the discord. I believe open beta is very soon anyway though.

1chemistdown ,
@1chemistdown@kbin.social avatar

I’m on the form. Been on there for a bit. Mostly I like pointing out that an app is being actively developed for kbin, and that I have never used it so I cannot tell you more.

I think lemmy people should know that @hariette has previously stated that Artemis will work there too. At least, I’m pretty sure they said that. Children have turned my brain to mush and my memory is about as reliable as a 3 year old.

kglitch ,

It was one guy until recently. But now if you look at the Kbin commits, it looks like 3 or 4 people. It's growing.

https://codeberg.org/Kbin/kbin-core/commits/branch/develop

BeigeAgenda ,
@BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca avatar

Great for the fediverse there’s many different codebases.

Azzu ,

I feel that’s a feature of Lemmy to not do both. I don’t care about microblogs. I want the sites that I use to do one thing and do it as well as possible, so I can mix & match what I use, and not see what I don’t want.

Number358 ,

The thing is, it’s not forced into your feed or anything. If you want to see microblogs, you have to go to the microblogs tab

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Can’t wait for Lemmy Enhancement Suite.

Because LES is more.

FoxBJK ,
@FoxBJK@midwest.social avatar

Honestly my favorite thing about Lemmy so far is that the web UI already has most of the things I wanted RES to have. And it’s all open source so we can just improve the UI directly. No need for browser changes!

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Same!

Though I do miss the content/comment filters that RES could do!

UnivesityHelpful829 ,

xvideos twitter videos? lmao

woshang ,

sounds sus

UnivesityHelpful829 ,

it’s lesser evil compare to amont of other memes after elon deside to name twitter “X” … xbox series x on x platform… sounds even more sus in my mind…

woshang ,

X video…

TerkErJerbs ,

https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/8fb1d6c9-6c53-4f5c-ae57-a4cc88585cf7.webp

recapitated ,

lol there has got to be a better cadence to deliver this joke. like “Twitter, now called X, has launched a new video sharing service at xvideos.com”

teuast ,

i think the mildly techy sounding waffle is the right way to set it up personally, it lulls you into a false sense of security thinking this is just some random tech nonsense and then bam, porn

milkjug ,
@milkjug@lemmy.world avatar

Risky click of the day, but turns out its benign and family-friendly. Thanks for sharing.

kaotic ,

Elon has no idea how to run a social media company. At this point he’s just trying random shit hoping it will work. Get the platform operating successfully again and then worry about branding…

Buddahriffic ,

Assuming “hoping it works” is really part of his plan for the platform.

BingoBangoBongo ,

I honestly think that he believes himself to be some sort of super genius that only has good ideas, just cause he wrote some software and sold it for alot of money when he was younger.

notst ,
@notst@lemmy.world avatar

The guy actually wrote software? Like he coded it?

BingoBangoBongo ,

He wrote something called zip2 and sold it. Then he wrote get this… x.com, which became PayPal.

Edit, because I didn’t really answer your question: yes he did code it, as far as anyone seems to know.

smokeymcpott ,

More importantly: he was born rich

jantin ,

gossip that Elon has no idea about running anything was circulating for a long time but since Tesla/SpaceX were not social media it was easier to manage the PR to make Musk seem like “tech and business genius, also twitter troll” regardless of what was going on behind the scenes. On Twitter every single decision hits millions of people and businesses within an hour and managing that is impossible for any PR department so we get to see the man as who he really is.

danielton ,
@danielton@lemmy.world avatar

I hear ya… The advantage that Lemmy and kbin have over Mastodon is that Redditors tend to be more technically inclined than Twitter users, so ditching Reddit for Lemmy was easy, while I only know a grand total of three people on Mastodon, and two of them are tech YouTubers.

TheRedSpade ,

Redditors tend to be more technically inclined than Twitter users

This used to be true, but Reddit has been mainstream for years now. Today’s average Redditor is likely pretty similar to the average Twitter user.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

When a quarter of the replies on Reddit have become “this” or “💯” or “^^,” which it feels like it became when I left, I’d agree with you.

cactus ,

bump

BeardedGingerWonder ,

This

Neoncamouflage ,

^^

TerkErJerbs ,

nice

odium , (edited )

fr fr

teuast ,

💯

Wiz ,

Is

Busy ,

I remember when you’d get ripped apart and down voted to hell for daring to use an emoji on Reddit when commenting. People hated it. Then one day it was fine to do it, no one cared anymore. I guess that’s around when Reddit became mainstream, maybe.

beefbaby182 ,
@beefbaby182@mastodon.world avatar

@Busy @FlyingSquid

Probably cause more and more users gravitated to mobile where it became commonplace to include emojis in posts. I remember too when using emojis was a mortal sin. At most you could use an emoticon but that was it.

notst ,
@notst@lemmy.world avatar

Back when I started using Reddit it was frowned upon to post OC. I remember some subs had rules that you would be banned if you more than like 10% of your posts were OC.

marx2k ,

And my axe!

Tag365 ,
@Tag365@lemmy.world avatar

I feel like when the Reddit API controversy happened I was more inclined to switch due to the blackout vs Twitter which didn’t have nearly as instant of an event that would happen to get me off. Now all of a sudden because of Reddit I’m on various Fediverse projects such as Funkwhale, Mastodon, Kbin, and Lemmy.

nomadjoanne ,

Interesting. That is a good point

danielton ,
@danielton@lemmy.world avatar

The vast majority of my friends on Twitter are artists, and the older ones ended up there when Angelo Sotira (spyed) got greedy on deviantArt. One of them ended up on mastodon.art, but the rest of them are trying out Threads, unfortunately.

Saneless ,

Plus there’s some staying power to posts on here

I’m replying to what you wrote 10 hours ago. My local feed would be a lot of shit before I ever saw this

And it’s 100% relevant to the area of content I wanted to read. Same if I went to a gaming or news related group

Bogasse ,

But in the other hand lemmy seems much more mature than lemmy.

Don’t get me wrong, the experience has been rapidly growing in recent weeks thanks to the proliferation of third party apps 👍 But Mastodon’s first party experience feels solid and their new official app just blends in any mainstream app.

danielton ,
@danielton@lemmy.world avatar

I assume you mean Mastodon seems much more mature than Lemmy?

Yeah, I’d agree with you there. I’ve had zero issues trying to find people and content on Mastodon, while I have had federation issues with Lemmy. And I do use the official Mastodon app.

My only gripe with Mastodon is that it isn’t obvious that you should follow hashtags. I didn’t know this at first and struggled to get into it with post after post complaining about Elon, but once I figured out to follow hashtags, I like it now. I’m just annoyed that all the artists I follow on Twitter are flocking to Threads and Bluesky instead of Mastodon though.

CharlieAus ,

Addiction it is. They think they are advocating for health and social justice. But they’re not. They’re just addicted to Twitter/X. I mean… it’s owned by someone who pays fascists to post on there, but they are still there? WTAF?

nothacking ,

They even stole x.org’s logo:

https://discuss.tchncs.de/pictrs/image/c6f20d01-c273-4f2b-adea-987583b393d8.png

Gacrux , (edited )
@Gacrux@lemm.ee avatar

believe it or not its more likely they straight up ripped off U+1D54F MATHEMATICAL DOUBLE-STRUCK CAPITAL X:

𝕏

absolutely no creativity. at least threads drew the ring in @ clockwise instead of the usual anticlockwise

IverCoder ,
@IverCoder@lemmy.world avatar

Imagine a billionaire approving that “logo” despite how uncreative it is. Like get a better graphic designer I guess?

Gacrux ,
@Gacrux@lemm.ee avatar

only difference between billionaires and normal people is that billionaires have a lot of money. best not to assume they have above-average logo appreciation skills. although they could hire some good advisors i suppose

teuast ,

yeah but then they’d be spending money to be told they might not be 100% right and perfect 100% of the time, and that’s just a waste of money

AzureRT ,
@AzureRT@reddthat.com avatar

Billionaires wouldn’t care if they’re wasting money

teuast ,

if that was true then maybe the stingy fuckers would tip wait staff

urist ,
@urist@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Why did they do my boy \mathds{X} like that?

Now nobody will use him for an algebraic ring :(

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Saw this on Mastodon:

Important sets:

ℂ the complex numbers

ℕ the natural numbers

ℚ the rational numbers

ℝ the real numbers

𝕏 the set of fascists wannabes

ℤ the integers

Gork ,

I would argue that ℤ would also be the set of Russian fascist wannabes.

beto ,
@beto@lemmy.studio avatar

My favorite comment about this from Mastodon: “X is just a sans serif swastika”.

nuke ,

I wonder if they’ll renew the twitter.com domain name

cmat273 ,

It would be hilarious if a random got that domain and threw a mastodon instance on it. They’ll probably keep it though lol

emax_gomax ,

Given how shamelessly stupid musks whole takeover has been I guarantee they wont won’t. He’ll probably assign someone to keep it renewed and then fire them.

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