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What's the cheapest online storage that you know of?

I’m looking for a diskspace of possibly 1TB online

Edit: my idea is to use it like as an external harddisk for everyday stuff. Encrypt the disk, put my filesystem on it, mount it as external drive kinda. Never worry about backups or lost data etc, as the provider would take care of it

bionicjoey , (edited )

Since you didn’t mention your requirements, I’ll assume data integrity isn’t super important. In that case, allow me to introduce you to /dev/null as a service. It’s free and has unlimited capacity.

DarkenLM ,

Now we just need to invent a way to read the Void of Nothingness to retrieve the data and bam! Infinite storage.

bionicjoey ,

That’s easy, just read from /dev/urandom. The access speed is super slow, but eventually you’ll find your data

DarkenLM ,
zero_iq ,

Idk man, I think it might have some reliability issues… I tried restoring my data and all I got back was a badly-typed copy of the complete works of Shakespeare.

bionicjoey ,

Try running: sed ‘s/blurst of times/worst of times/g’

Yawnder ,

Already exists, and it’s offered by IKEA. Here is the kit you need: 0 1

The only problem is that I don’t have the plans that shows how to assemble the parts.

brygphilomena ,

This gave me a hearty chuckle. Thank you for showing me that wonderful piece of software.

secret_ninja ,

This is hilarious. I love it haha

Asudox ,
@Asudox@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks for the website, it was a funny read.

u202307011927 OP ,
@u202307011927@feddit.de avatar

I’d never expect to find an answer like this lol. Thankyou

bionicjoey ,

Happy to help! Let me know if have any other technical questions :)

IzzyData ,
@IzzyData@lemmy.ml avatar

Depends for how long. Buying a used NAS with a single 1TB drive is probably cheaper over a 10 year period than subscribing to some cloud service for the same duration.

Blaze ,
@Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Hey, interesting to see you back

IzzyData ,
@IzzyData@lemmy.ml avatar

Where did I go?

Blaze ,
@Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Wasn’t there something with a LW community? Anyway, it doesn’t matter so much

netburnr ,

You mean three drives? You need data integrity, what if a drive fails? What if you have a raid 1 but when readding a new drive you have read errors? Parity is good.

IzzyData ,
@IzzyData@lemmy.ml avatar

Good point. Perhaps at least a 2 drive NAS then. 👍

electric_nan , (edited )

Check out Hetzner Storage Box. I’ve got 20TB for my Jellyfin library and it’s $50/mo.

Edit: use rclone to mount it as a network drive on your desktop.

Edit 2: Just checked and it’s $40/month

soupuos ,

I’m kind of curious why you don’t just buy a HDD or two. At $600 a year you’d break even really quickly.

electric_nan ,

It’s a good question. If I had something like gigabit internet with high upload speeds I probably would (and eventually will). Right now though, I use Jellyfin from wherever I am, and I share it with a few friends and family too.

alekwithak ,

Are you hosting Jellyfin in the cloud as well?

electric_nan ,

Yes. Also on Hetzner.

soupuos ,

That makes sense! Thanks for sharing

hjpoijnerflkjn ,

Never worry about backups or lost data etc, as the provider would take care of it

This is not how it works. You still have to backup your data!

Your account can be closed due to various reasons, you accidentally delete files, some malware deletes files without you noticing it before it is too late.

A friend of mine lost some important data because of the ovh server container fire incident. Ovh had no backups.

u202307011927 OP ,
@u202307011927@feddit.de avatar

Ooofsh, thanks. You’re right

wisha , (edited )

Hetzner storage box is 3.81€/month for 1TB.

frippa ,
@frippa@lemmy.ml avatar

Over the course of a year you basically bought an HDD (but excluding backups/power)

walden ,

Off site storage is off site for a reason, though.

DogMuffins ,

You could say this about any service.

LUHG_HANI ,
@LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world avatar

You purchased a shit hard drive at that price and bad point anyway.

LufyCZ ,

Eh, could be an average ish 2TB HDD

DogMuffins ,

I had a hetzner box a while back but I didn’t know about these storage boxes. This is pretty great. I’ve used rsync.net for many years but it’s basically 3x the price and it’s painfully slow.

secret_ninja ,

I’ll just say this: you get what you pay for. I used pCloud a few years ago and wasn’t able to retrieve all my data, some files got corrupted (luckily I had backups). Now I use a DIY NAS and backup to B2.

cyberpunk007 ,

This is what I do. Truenas scale and backup to ext hard drive and B2

NotAnArdvark ,

This is only slightly related - I lost a small number of files with DreamHost object storage, and they were charging more than S3 per GB.

So, I agree you usually get what you pay for, but also make sure the provider is all-in on the product. I think DreamHost really isn’t interested in their virtualized/cloud offerings.

dingus ,

Yeah of all the things to cheap out on, it doesn’t seem wise to do it with data storage unless you don’t mind losing it…

secret_ninja ,

Agreed. Especially when reliable storage only costs $4-$6/tb these days. (Where I live that won’t buy you a freaking cup of coffee lol). I only back up to the cloud and pay for my important data anyway, I have terabytes of data that I don’t mind losing and therefore don’t bother backing up to the cloud.

Render ,

I wish I knew how NAS and what to do in case of a failing hard drive.

Is it necessary to have it always powered on?

secret_ninja ,

It’s really not complicated. Look up Truenas or Rockstor. Both are solid NAS OSs. I’ve been running Rockstor for about a year now (partly because I’m a huge fan of btrfs) and I’m pretty happy with it. Make sure to keep an offline backup on an external drive just in case you mess something up. I manually plug in a drive about once a month for that. I think DIY is more fun anyway ;) and I’m sure the community will help with questions you can’t find answers to online. Good luck!

jelloeater85 ,
@jelloeater85@lemmy.world avatar

I do FreeNas at home. How does RockStor work out, seems like OMV.

secret_ninja ,

Pretty similar. Not sure what OMV uses as a FS but Rockstor natively uses btrfs (a FS I used for years and trust) so it was a no brainer for me. Everything else works as expected, nfs, smb, snapshots, backups, etc. The only add on I decided to use on top of Rockstor itself is for Duplicati for B2 backups. I hear a lot of good things about FreeNas too.

Render ,

Thank you! I hope to be able to setup my first NAS soon.

lustrum ,

Depends what you want to do but Backblaze B2 is reasonably cheap. $6 per TB

BastingChemina ,

It’s reasonably cheap and you pay only for what you use.

lustrum ,

Yeah that’s the best for me. I use about 600GB.

500GB plans aren’t enough and 1TB plans are too much. Paying what you use is so good.

jelloeater85 ,
@jelloeater85@lemmy.world avatar

Heck yeah, it’s great. Wasabi is nice too, but keep in mind they bill differently for storage vs retrieval.

hotdoge42 ,

OneDrive with Microsoft 365 Family subscription. There are several deals for 50€ per 15 Month for 1TB per Account. Since it is the family subscription you’ll get up to 6 Accounts. So it is 3.33€ for 6TB or 0.55€ per TB.

Sensitivezombie ,

I second this. So much bang for your buck and it’s cheaper than Amazon prime

jasondj ,

Where is MS Office 50€/15mo and can I use it in America? Been thinking about getting a new domain since I failed to get off google workspaces in time.

hotdoge42 ,

Sorry, can’t tell how the prices are in America. But for Germany this kind of deals are around pretty often.

kambusha ,

Does anyone use Proton for storage?

I’ve been contemplating hopping onto their offerings once Proton pass has added some more features.

PerogiBoi ,
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I have Proton for VPN and it came with 500gb of cloud storage with my plan. Pretty decent.

BastingChemina ,

I tried but for me the upload was very slow and not very practical.

They only have a windows app for now, so to back up my NAS the only solution I found was to create a windows VM, a virtual disk pointed at my data on the NAS and running the VM regularly to back up the data.

I gave up after few weeks and went to backblaze.

Dark_Arc ,
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I think it could be a good option in the future, but it’s pretty under baked right now.

AcesFullOfKings ,

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    hackris ,

    And then send us the links. Sharing is caring :)

    MrFunnyMoustache ,

    Encrypt everything first and you’ll soon have entire communities trying to decipher it for fun.

    AgnosticMammal ,

    Is this an ARG?

    MrFunnyMoustache ,

    People will assume it’s an ARG even if it isn’t.

    CanadaPlus ,

    That’s pretty high risk, though, since the admins could notice at any time.

    bus_factor ,

    If you want really good answers, you will need to be more specific about your requirements.

    The absolute cheapest as the question is stated is to go dumpster diving for a free hard drive and host it at a friend’s house, but this is likely not what you had in mind.

    • Do you need backups?
    • Does it need to be encrypted at rest?
    • What bandwidth do you need up and down?
    • Is it okay with a monthly bandwidth cap?
    • what latency is okay? Is cold storage where it takes a day or more to fetch the data okay?
    KevonLooney ,

    Exactly. How often will you use it? Every day? Just get a hard drive. Once a year? AWS Glacier is like $1 per TB per month and it can’t burn down.

    u202307011927 OP ,
    @u202307011927@feddit.de avatar

    Well, I intend to use the offsite storage as an everyday-use-external-harddisk, I want to encrypt it, put a filesystem on top and the mount it. The thought behind it is, the provider will take care of data integrity and backups as well. Worry free usage for me then

    bus_factor ,

    That’s unlikely to perform well enough to be usable at all. You’d at the very least need some sync method which just updates the blocks you wrote to, and that rules out a lot of cheap storage.

    You’d be better off with either cloud storage a la Google Drive or Dropbox, either mounted from the remote location or used as storage for a sync-based backup solution. You could have it upload things instantly if it listens for save events in inotify.

    TheGreenGolem ,

    On AWS S3 Glacier Deep Archive 1TB will cost you $1/month. I use it as one of my off-site backup solutions.

    chahk ,

    How much will it cost to retrieve that backup though?

    GreatAlbatross ,
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    Especially if you forget to tar it.

    Nath ,
    @Nath@aussie.zone avatar

    Around $120/TB from memory when I looked into it.

    That’s too much for regular stuff, but if you’re using it to store your family photos and videos off-site in case of a fire etc, you’d pay it. Hmmm… I wonder whether you could get insurance to cover it?

    TheGreenGolem ,

    I use it exactly for that. It’s a secondary, long term backup which I plan to hopefully never retrieve. It’s basically write-only for me and I hope it will remain that way. (Because if it’s not, I lost my on-site backup AND my primary cloud backup as well. So I’m probably very fucked.)

    BeanCounter ,

    Careful recommending glacier. It is shockingly, crazy expensive to retrieve data.

    randombullet ,

    Backblaze.

    9/month for unlimited storage.

    I’m at 4tb stored.

    sunbeam60 ,

    It’s hard (and against ToS) to access B2C Backblaze with any S3/Swift API, though. So it depends a bit on your use-case.

    sunbeam60 , (edited )

    OVH is quite cheap (£0.0024/GB-month)

    extant ,

    I wanted to do my own self-hosted storage but for the cost and features I went with Dropbox. It’s $10 a month if you prepay for the year otherwise it’s $12 and you get two terabytes of storage. For that you get all the same things most self-hosted solutions will offer including 30 days of versioning/backups. Additionally it’s pretty popular so most software has built in integration which is convenient but not something you need. Bottom line is doing your own storage can be cheap but adding off-site backups gets expensive and just going straight to off-site backups (cloud storage) is going to be close to the $10-$12 dollars you’ll pay anyway but you have to do all the work.

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