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Is it me, or the hive mind mentality has come over here as well?

I’ve posted some controversial stuff, and I understand why I would be getting down voted for that. But I see some of my posts and comments are in the negatives for seemingly no reason at all? I don’t really care about the karma because I can’t see it anyway, but I’m worried that comments and posts here are gonna get downvoted and dismissed without further consideration solely because of the negative score, like what would happen on reddit. I suspect someone, a troll, a bot, or a misclick downvoted my comment or post and people just followed along downvoting in turn. It’s either that, or I genuinely said something bad but I can’t figure for the life of me that it is indeed bad. My prime example is my support post for commenting under certain posts, why did that get the downvotes? And I see this kind of thing sometimes on other people’s comments as well, and I’m baffled, is it me who can’t understand why something is bad, or hive mind came here too?

EDIT: it seems i wasn’t clear enough. a) I’m not worried about getting the actual downvotes. I’m worried about downvotes stopping to be a tool to gauge content. b) I’m not worried about controversial opinions’ downvotes, I already said I’m not surprised I got downvoted there. I was talking about totally mundane posts, like that one support post. c) I’m not talking about people simply disagreeing, I’m talking about people immediately disregarding a post because of the downvote count. it’s not correct to say this doesn’t happen, it totally does and… how am I supposed to prove that? all it takes on reddit is see a comment on 0 for no reason and see it quickly drop to -5

voidwalker ,
@voidwalker@lemmy.villa-straylight.social avatar

Welcome to the internet! We have bots and people who act like bots.

In all seriousness though, I think that this is just a flaw in the voting system and human behaviour. People like to go with the general concensus instead of thinking for themselves. It feels like people genuinely have difficulty in thinking about things and act as automatons a lot of the time. I also have a suspicion that bots are involved but I don’t have any evidence though it does seem to be a theory that has circulated on the internet for some time.

Aphroditusss ,

It’s rare to feel like downvoting every post on a user’s profile. But when it happens, the person is always a piece of shit. I saw some people saying that you are a fascist. If true, that’s the reason you’re getting the downvotes, it’s because you’re a piece of shit.

6mementomori OP ,

I’m not even sure what I’m doing to be a fascist tbh

lemann ,

He said “if true”

Personally after a quick 10 second scroll of your profile you seem like a curious but chill guy 🤷‍♂️

It could be that you’re posting stuff to the wrong-but-similar communities/a particular community could be a bit hostile towards some viewpoints/not reading sidebar rules before posting

6mementomori OP ,

yeah I know, I was talking about other people calling me that.

Blamemeta ,

You gotta realize that being fascist has nothing to do with 1930s Italy. Its to do with name calling those whose views are to the right of Marx. And thats only slight hyperbole on Lemmy.

trimmerfrost ,

If you go on a right wing instance, you will get downvoted for having left wing opinions. Just like you do for having right wing opinions. Downvotes don’t mean anything

Dinodicchellathicc ,

There are right wing instances? Do they have goofy names like lemmyright.net

Saigonauticon ,

I don’t see the point of voting on online content, and just ignore the feature entirely. My brain automatically edits out the voting buttons and results. I don’t even see them!

Without offense intended… I didn’t come here for your (or anyone’s) approval. Other people’s opinions have universally baffled me as a general rule (yours probably will too).

I came here to document my radical opinions about assembly language programming, post photos of stuff I build, occasionally help other people build stuff, and (of least concern) occasionally participate in conversation. I imagine very few people (other than myself) care about anything I have to say – it’s still a neat exercise to put it into words so I better define what I think.

So maybe people are downvoting you because they don’t like you, or don’t like what you write. Maybe they do it for no reason, or for fun. Maybe I don’t like you, for an arbitrary or a good reason, or both. At some point I guess we just have to be comfortable with these things I guess and coexist here somehow. At least you can’t pay money to a platform, to force me to read your opinions, I guess! That would be torture.

Anyway, no one actually needs to worry about me not liking them or username-stalking them. The depths of my indifference are fathomless, and eternal. To make me care about what you think is like bridging the void between the stars.

nihilomaster ,

You are still affected by this. Upvoted posts and comments tend to show up earlier in your feed (except if you’re sorting strictly by new). Some instances may even decide to auto-hide content below a certain threshold. So a politically motivated group or even just a person with a significant enough bot-army could manipulate post visibility and kinda soft-shadow-ban people they deem unfavorable.

Saigonauticon ,

OK, I’ll give you that. I don’t really use the whole feed thing often, and that didn’t occur to me. It doesn’t seem to be a problem so far, though.

If that changes, I’ll write a Lemmy reader that strips out the democratic elements and just sorts by newest for me (if someone else doesn’t do it first). Probably less work than managing an army of Lemmy bots. I wrote and manage just one – a fortune teller that lives on my instance and does I-Ching readings.

Do other people use the feed a lot? I haven’t really used social media prior to Lemmy. A lot of what people consider important comes off as a bit alien to me.

trimmerfrost ,

One of the answers to have a ‘controversial’ or ‘bottom’ sort order for posts and comments

trimmerfrost ,

You can hide post and comment votes on many Lemmy clients. Try it. I can assure, you will sleep a little bit better

Saigonauticon ,

My mind automatically filters them out already. It’s really weird. Sort of like banner-blindness.

Like, I know they’re physically there, and I can see them if I stop and willfully look for them. Otherwise all I see are the words and the buttons though.

akulium ,

It would help if everyone tried to interpret other people’s comments in the best possible way, rather than in the worst possible way. It leads to much more interesting discussions.

Unfortunately, that is very unlikely to happen.

ShrimpsIsBugs ,

Yes because this isn’t a reddit phenomenon but a human psychology phenomenon

Andiloor ,

Sometimes, hypothetically, you post cringe. It’s ok, I post cringe sometimes too

MiddleWeigh ,
@MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world avatar

Consciousness is wild. I’m pretty sure I can feel all of you in my head, for sure.

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