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Attitude to Religion and its believers.

What is your general attitude towards those who believe in religion whether they are jewish, Muslim, Christian etc etc.

Do you get on well with any religious friends and neighbours?

Have you ever thought of believing in a religion at some point?

If you do not like the faiths, why?

If you DO, also why? Does this come from your family? Maybe something went bad during your life?

I get that Lemmy might have the same stereotype in Reddit that there are loads of atheists, but there’s a good reason why despite criticism of religion, it is still here.

P.S. I am not religious or anti religious in any fashion, I am agnostic.

shapesandstuff ,

I don’t mind them doing their thing at home, but I could do without them shoving their lifestyle in everybody’s face in public.

GreyEyedGhost ,

I don’t tell non-straight people they can’t have their pride parade, I don’t tell people they shouldn’t kiss or hold hands in public, I don’t tell religious people they can’t have public displays, either. What I object to is if any of those groups insist I join them, or insist I don’t.

shapesandstuff ,

I hope my sarcasm was clear

HubertManne ,

I used to be fence sitter agnostic but Qanon has made me deep on the athiest side. I don't care what ones religion is but I don't want to hear about it. Its fine to mention it but if someone is always talking about it then I will avoid them.

juliebean ,

personally, i don’t get, like, at all. i don’t care what nonsense folk put their faith in, so long as they don’t use it to justify being a dick, or try to justify others being a dick. maybe they get some pity/sympathy from me, to a point, cause they probably got brainwashed when they were a child, or otherwise in a vulnerable state, and maybe some amusement depending on how ‘out there’ their counterfactual beliefs are.

i generally get on well enough with my religious friends, but it’s not a topic that comes up much in real life.

i don’t usually care for organized religion, but that has more to do with my anarchism than my atheism.

this all goes equally whether we’re talking about conventional religions, modern conspiracy theories, new-age mumbo jumbo, or what-have-you.

daltotron ,

Mostly I find them annoying. I mildly understand the need for human meaning as it kind of, tends to come up later at night, or for the elderly, or when life really sucks or you tend to even just be really really bored right.

I also understand some of the benefits, right, like. As much as people will despise to admit it, you don’t get, say, the number zero without the Muslim science guys, and you don’t get science without the enlightenment which stemmed out of some weirdass Catholic Christian theory guys. and then everyone’s all like, oh no well you can’t attribute that to the Catholics and if anything they hampered progress, and I’d say, well, maybe, maybe, but also maybe science sucks as we commonly understand it and maybe also you can’t really divorce any part of things from their cultural context, or else things get fucky.

On the other hand I find them annoying and I find that all to be totally null and void because the vast majority of people are just using it as an opiate to placate literally all of their anxieties about the world with a bunch of meaningless thought terminating cliche style statements, and even actively reinforce their own participation in some of the worst aspects of their own culture and society even at points in which they really don’t want to or know that it’s horrible and is causing them pain.

So I dunno, mostly it sucks.

corsicanguppy ,

What is your general attitude towards those who believe in religion whether they are jewish, Muslim, Christian etc etc.

It’s totally okay, just like when my nephew talks about dinosaurs.

hanrahan ,
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Same way I get on wih other people who have imaginary friends, I just ignore them and worry about the inevitable indoctrination (aka abuse) of their children.

space_of_eights ,

I respect the fact that people believe. They even can form their own clubs as far as I’m concerned. Forcing those beliefs onto other people is something I do have an issue with.

tatterdemalion ,
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I just don’t support dogmatic thinking and indoctrination, especially when it creeps into politics, which is inevitable at the scale of the most popular religions.

In theory I have no problem with other people’s faith, but in practice it degrades the critical thinking capacity of our population and, paradoxically, the moral capacity as well. That’s a net negative in my opinion.

Charities exist without religion. I think religions often teach good moral frameworks, though very traditional. But those come with a huge caveat that you cut out a big hole in your brain for the belief that God exists and cares about how you behave. That one idea leads to so much trouble, from false prophets to normalized misogyny and hatred of gay people.

HarriPotero ,
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I treat religion like my penis.

It’s ok not to have one.

It’s ok to have one.

It’s ok to be proud of it.

But don’t display it in public, and don’t shove it down people’s throats.

And NEVER whip it out in congress.

Aceticon ,

Don’t say, don’t ask.

Shou ,

You aren’t born religious. You are indoctrinated. I grew up in a cult. It wasn’t nearly as bad as cults get, but it has its own insane ramblings “teachings”

I escaped my indoctrination because I took it too seriously. I wanted to adhere perfectly, which resulted in finding out how convoluted and hypocritical it is. It is impossible.

So in my confusion, I started to look more critically at the hows and whys. The result, religions all use the same dirty tactics to get people to believe. False promises, comforting lies and empty threats that will seem real to those who were taught magical thinking.

I reject religion.

But I cannot hate people who are religious for just being religious. They were a child when taught, or an adult so downtrodden they needed a fairy tale to continue life. Or perhaps just are a bit naive. It’s a slippery slope. So… I can’t blame people. I get it. I know what it’s like and it saddens me the older people get, the less likely they’ll ever escape the mental constriction religion brings.

I sure as fuck hate a religious person for commiting hate crimes. They can go to hell.

jerkface ,
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You are born with spiritual needs. It is clear that you still have unmet spiritual needs despite your religious trauma.

vintageballs ,

[x] doubt

Don’t project your needs onto others.

Shou ,

My spiritual need was liberation from this projective bullshit.

Brickardo ,

Don’t ask don’t tell

tiredofsametab ,

Keep it to yourself and don't hurt others. So long as that's the case, what someone else believes is generally not my business.

I was raised in various evangelical protestant denominations of Christianity, went through a Neopagan period, and landed in atheist-leaning agnostic.

Sgt_choke_n_stroke ,

I hate the belief not the believer

inconspicuouscolon ,
@inconspicuouscolon@lemy.lol avatar

preach (pun intended)

magnetosphere ,
@magnetosphere@fedia.io avatar

As long as they’re not an intolerant dick about believing or not believing, whatever they go with is fine. It’s none of my business.

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