There have been multiple accounts created with the sole purpose of posting advertisement posts or replies containing unsolicited advertising.

Accounts which solely post advertisements, or persistently post them may be terminated.

Evotech ,

I think name people have a thought similar to “it would be cool to know a instrument” but they just don’t actually enjoy it when they sit down with it.

FookReddit69 OP ,

Kinda

zero_spelled_with_an_ecks ,

For me, the practice wasn’t enjoyable. I’m the type of person that cannot stick to things for their rewards if it’s not enjoyable. That’s not to say I can’t stick to things, it’s just the doing itself has to be enjoyable. I’ve been doing a martial art for over twenty years now but I just kept showing up because I enjoyed it.

Zombiepirate ,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

The most important part about learning a musical instrument is consistent practice.

1 hour twice per week is not as good as 20 minutes every single day. And you do have to play every day if you want to improve. Work on one thing at a time and most importantly: use a metronome.

Guitar is a meditation exercise: you have to learn to love the process. If you aren’t having fun, maybe it just isn’t for you.

FookReddit69 OP ,

It isn’t for me.

geoma ,

Yep. If you are not having fun, probably pick something else… Although you have to know that sometimes you have struggling stages and you should persist.

geoma ,

This. Except the metronome part, which is optional.

zcd ,

The distance from picking up the guitar to being able to play music is so far that most people give up before making it through. Building muscle memory and being able to finger those chords without fat fingering the other strings takes longer than you expect. You’re talking about trying to play a song when really you probably need a month on the open chords.

If you are over it then no shame in moving on. If you want to take one more crack at it you’ll have to slow down and just hyper focus on the basics. Or try ukulele! Ukulele is awesome because the cords are a lot easier and you’ll become a strumming master since you won’t be concentrating so hard on the chords. And then later down the line it would give you a good foundation if you take a crack at guitar again

In my opinion there is no such thing as natural talent. There is only practice and muscle memory. Once you’re up and running with robotic hands (Being able to play the chords without thinking about them, being able to strum a few patterns without thinking about them) It opens up the whole world of music and songs

FookReddit69 OP ,

Already bought 2 cheap Amazon guitars ACOUSTIC and electric plus another amp plus a pedal that I used twice. I’m not going to buy anything else

zcd ,

Trade one of your guitars for ukulele ha

FookReddit69 OP ,

Unfortunately I hate how that sounds plus my type of music isn’t compatible with it

morgan_423 ,
@morgan_423@lemmy.world avatar

Or try ukulele! Ukulele is awesome because the cords are a lot easier and you’ll become a strumming master since you won’t be concentrating so hard on the chords. And then later down the line it would give you a good foundation if you take a crack at guitar again

You are not kidding. IMO, everyone should start out with a four stringed instrument, they are fantastic. Move on to greater complexity later if you want to.

I failed out on my first attempt at guitar, it was just to much… then I lucked into a tenor guitar, and entered the four-string world of tons of one and two finger chords. Suddenly I could focus on rhythm and musicality, rather than making sure my fingers were doing half a bajillion gymnastic tricks per minute.

Four stringers are so much fun, doesn’t matter if it’s a ukulele, a cigar box guitar, a tenor guitar, whatever. Go get one and start having fun!

zcd ,

Yeah you explained it much better, They are so much fun! The five string banjo is also 4 strings when it comes to chords, a huge percentage of the skills you learn with these instruments translates to guitar

FookReddit69 OP ,

I really don’t care about ukulele though

morgan_423 ,
@morgan_423@lemmy.world avatar

Tenor guitar strung in a fourths-based tuning (DGBE, ADGC) and not fifths sounds much more like six string guitar, it’s how I usually tune mine. You can go full electric on them too.

Cigar box guitars can sound pretty damn good amped up as well, and are often much cheaper to get. I picked one up from this ebay seller almost a decade ago, and still enjoy playing it. He might only make three stringers now, but those are even easier to play. Or if you’re handy, you can even make them yourself.

Apytele ,

My middle school music teacher was mean so I didn’t take her class again. There were a lot of authority figures who felt I needed to toughen up in one way or another and I gave up on a lot of things because of that mindset.

southsamurai ,
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

For me, it was an inability to only finger strings properly, even after about six months of practice. My hands, even back in my teens, were huge. That includes big fingers (size 14 ring at the time)

Since I didn’t have the freedom to try other instruments in a useful way, I just decided I had better things to do with my time than fuck around making dissonant sounds on a guitar.

But, before you give up entirely, maybe try learning a simple song all the way. That was what actually made my decision. I knew what it was supposed to sound like, knew where my fingers were vs how the strings were supposed to be used, and knew I’d never make the music that drove me to want to try in the first place.

If you can manage to learn one song and play it to the point you can tell what you’re playing, I say keep going. From that point, it’s a matter of practice and figuring out what lessons work for you.

But it is a learning curve that kills a lot of potential players of any instruments. I hang with an old high school friend that fronts a band. I’ve had this conversation with him (and he reached the same conclusion I did after teaching me a little on both tenor and bass guitar, that I might so something, but it wouldn’t be what I wanted) about getting past that wall.

He said that in person lessons are the best way to get past the initial “what the fuck is going on” stage where nothing seems to work. A lot of people pick up a book, or watch videos and try to get going. But those methods don’t work for everyone. So you kinda need someone that can give active feedback on all the little things that go into learning your first song.

And that’s what he says the goal should be; you pick a simple song, learn it, and then improve on it. Takes a few weeks for a lot of people to get something like amazing grace or Mary had a little lamb down to the point that it sounds right. But you have to start simple because you’ve got to get your hands used to the job. It can take a thousand plus repetitions of a given action to commit it to memory in a way it becomes fluid and natural (which is a thing in martial arts, btw, you have drill the hell out of a technique before you can spar with it).

But it’s also okay to give up. It’s your time, your energy. If you’ve discovered that the return on that isn’t fast enough to give you what you want/need, why waste part of your life banging against the wall? Sometimes a learning curve isn’t worth climbing.

FookReddit69 OP ,

On person guitar lessons are expensive. I don’t wanna waste more money in something that isn’t going to last with me

southsamurai ,
@southsamurai@sh.itjust.works avatar

Nothing wrong with that :)

BertramDitore ,
@BertramDitore@lemmy.world avatar

I believe there are 3 kinds of musicians. Keep in mind I have no evidence for this, it’s just what I’ve experienced through a life of playing music and being around lots of musicians.

#1 is someone with natural ability, these are the people who seem to be able to pick up any instrument and intuitively understand how to make it sound like music. This is the rarest kind of musician.

#2 is someone with a little bit of #1’s natural ability, but like 70% of their skill comes from honing it through sustained, long-term practice. It’s hard, and can be incredibly frustrating, but also very rewarding. I’d say many if not most successful musicians fall into this category.

#3 is someone with none of #1’s natural ability, but a passionate desire to learn. With grueling long hours of practicing the basics, studying some theory, and intentional instruction, #3 is perfectly capable of playing an instrument beautifully, but it will be a lot more work for them than it would be for #’s 1 and 2.

It’s probably pretty similar to sports. Some people are naturals, but almost anyone can learn to be really good at them, it just takes a shitload of work.

constantokra ,

There are people who have natural ability at every instrument, but it’s much more common for it to be with one or two types of instruments. Them a little (enjoyable) practice will get them to whatever level of mastery they’re happy with. They can be totally hopeless at other instruments, and average at others. The ones that will blow your mind are those who are total naturals at one, but choose to pursue an instrument they have no natural ability at.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

It’s probably pretty similar to sports. Some people are naturals, but almost anyone can learn to be really good at them, it just takes a shitload of work.

Being a natural at something is being good at pattern recognition, whether it is music, sports, cooking, writing, or pretty much anything prople can be good at. While the vast majority of people can get good at things through practice, there are people on the opposite end from the people where it comes naturally that won’t be able to do better than a beginnger even with a lot of practice.

There are the equivalents of being tone deaf for pretty much everything humans do.

bstix ,

I’m a #4 then. The one who knows all the theory but don’t care about practicing. I can play a lot of different instruments badly.

Now this is not necessarily a bad role, because if you want to perform live it’s absolutely necessary to simplify things in order to ensure that you can actually deliver something and not get thrown off by imperfections or getting bored with certain parts.

FookReddit69 OP ,

Then I’m in #4 you just suck at it

Jarix ,

Honestly. Start playing guitar hero and rock band. Not even joking.

They teach help you coordinate your two hands together in a very fun way… Assuming you enjoy the music in those games.

More importantly though is what are you trying to do by learning guitar? Are you just wanting to sing a few songs around a campfire? So you want to be a lead guitarist leading those wicked solos or a classical virtuoso with amazing technique?

Musicians come in many forms what is your purpose? What does success look like to YOU?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpqAz0ZNQaY

FookReddit69 OP ,

Already finished world tour and warriors of rock 10 years ago. Is a damn toy and not playing for real.

Jarix ,

Ahh no i didn’t mean as a substitute. If you already played them then they arent going to help you.

If you enjoyed them, you might then want to check out rocksmith as it uses your real guitar. I however cant wrap my head around the UI in that one so its rough for me, but you might have a way better experience with it than me

Also a friend who is an amazing musician did a lot of content on yousician but i havent used that personally so cant attest to it

tate ,

your large fonts are obnoxious.

Vanth , (edited )
@Vanth@reddthat.com avatar

deleted_by_author

    •
    Oka ,

    I’m exactly the same. Hobbies just don’t stick, and I can’t commit to the grind of getting better at them.

    Have you been diagnosed with adhd by chance? I haven’t, but I suspect it’s one symptom.

    Vanth , (edited )
    @Vanth@reddthat.com avatar

    deleted_by_author

    •
    Oka ,

    That’s a cool take on it. I feel like I just haven’t found a solid hobby that’s fun to me. I’ve tried several, the only things that have partially stuck are video games, programming, and DND, but they still feel like a chore to keep learning.

    BlackRing ,

    Guitar is the only hobby I acquired that never took. I wanted it to take, but did not have the funds to pursue lessons.

    I could not get over the beginner hurdles of how to strum, how to really hold the pick, and so forth. If I could have taken lessons or gotten past that I might have learned and still be playing today instead of seeing the case just sitting there collecting dust.

    FookReddit69 OP ,

    The strumming is a nightmare I agree, but even the simplest songs that only require 2 strings without wide strumming are impossible, accidentally muting the strings, not pressing enough, moving the fingers fast, using your pinky… Is such an impossible instrument

    teamevil ,

    Dude it’s just practice… Id suggest spending 50 bux on a classical guitar, the nylon strings and far enough apart and gentle on your hands. You’ll be amazed.

    FookReddit69 OP ,

    I have both guitars. Both are just dust holders

    zelifcam , (edited )
    @zelifcam@lemmy.world avatar

    deleted_by_author

    •
    FookReddit69 OP ,

    Months. Not years, I would NEVER try anything that take that long, not even videogames

    zelifcam , (edited )
    @zelifcam@lemmy.world avatar

    deleted_by_author

    •
    FookReddit69 OP , (edited )

    The typical “hur dur videogames are for childs” in what decade are you living, the 80s?

    Sucking for months isn’t fun, that’s it. Also bands are literally doing THEIR JOB. Of course they can’t be doing and practicing that for just months.

    voracitude ,

    Man, most bands start as a group of friends playing together for fun. Yes, sucking isn’t fun - the fun comes from surmounting those obstacles and seeing yourself improve. I sucked at Dark Souls when I first picked it up, but I wanted to be good, so I sat down and practiced parrying against basic enemies until I could get it consistently. I suck at guitar too, it hurts my fingers and makes my hands cramp and it wasn’t worth it to me to push through that to get good.

    You know what I did about it? I sold my guitar on craigslist and moved on. I didn’t go on the internet and whine about it, nor did I get impudent with people who took the time to offer me advice - really rather good advice, in this thread. Your attitude sucks. Adjust that, and then either sit down and practice or find a new hobby. Nobody gives a shit that being bad makes you sad.

    braindefragger , (edited )

    deleted_by_author

    •
    FookReddit69 OP ,

    Wtf is that an insult? Get lost

    zelifcam , (edited )
    @zelifcam@lemmy.world avatar

    deleted_by_author

    •
    FookReddit69 OP ,

    That’s not a reality where I live so fuck me I guess. Also I’m an adult. Not a “kid from a band”

  • All
  • Subscribed
  • Moderated
  • Favorites
  • •
  • [email protected]
  • random
  • lifeLocal
  • goranko
  • All magazines
    •