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Is it just me, or have the comments on Lemmy become extra aggressive over the past 3 months?

I feel like things on Lemmy were pretty chill several months ago, and that’s started to change.

People used to talk each other like they would talk to a neighbor. Now I get the sense that people have become quick to be negative, attack, and not be constructive.

Am I crazy in feeling like the vibe has changed?

c0mbatbag3l ,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Well there’s only a few hundred people commenting and a lot of initial transfers have stopped using the site because it only caters to extremist views. Hell even I’m about to just stop and use Tildes exclusively.

Personally I’ve never seen it the way everyone claims, from day one this place seemed to just be the worst of reddit, but who knows.

ElderWendigo , (edited )

I posted a cookie recipe in response to a cookie meme, got roasted for not converting baking units to science units. So yeah, people are getting kinda aggressive.

Agent641 ,

Dont you mean you got baked, not roasted?

Buffaloaf ,

Sounds about right. I’ve noticed on Lemmy people get a hard on for calling Americans stupid because “they don’t know the metric system”. Even though I’ve explained a few times that a) we use both, depending on the situation and b) there are other countries that do the same

Yerbouti ,

Comming from Reddit, I find it really peaceful, but IDK how it was before. Except for the people at Hexbear who bullied me for liking South Park. The socalled “dirtbag left” is basically the proudboys pretending to be far-left.

Zirconium ,

Considering a lot of them are anti-Semitic, defend USSR invading Poland, some even homophobic. They’re literally just larping fascist pigs

8000gnat ,

redfash

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Redfashes do exist, but not on Hexbear or Lemmygrad.

Zirconium ,

Idk what that means

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Still conflating anti-Zionism with antisemitism, I see. First of all, anti-Zionist Jews and non-Zoinist Jews exist.

There is no fediverse instance more queer-friendly and than Hexbear; what are you even talking about?

azulavoir ,

I can think of a few.

Zirconium ,

Not a pro Zionist. But thanks for putting words in my mouth

AnarchoBolshevik , (edited )
@AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml avatar

There is no fediverse instance more queer-friendly and than Hexbear; what are you even talking about?

I am guessing that the reasoning is as follows:

  1. The short twentieth century’s people’s republics were frequently heterosexist in some way
  2. Many on Hexbear defend the people’s republics (within reason)
  3. Ergo, Hexbear is heterosexist

This reasoning does not apply when defending dictatorships of the bourgeoisie such as Imperial America and the British Empire, because

JimboDHimbo ,

You obviously don’t know what fascist means. You should probably stop using the word until you go read the definition.

Zirconium ,

Cool 👍

Neil ,
@Neil@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s never a bad idea to instance block them. They’ll endlessly bully you and gang up like a bunch of school children. The only thing that stops it is to stop responding.

davel ,
@davel@lemmy.ml avatar

Liberals just can’t fathom the possibility that socialists walk among us, therefore they must be cryptofascists or paid shills of foreign States.

I assure you that we have been here all along, despite two red scares and a cold war to try to purge us.

It’s pretty insulting, considering that American socialists helped bring about the weekend and the eight hour workday.

Tinidril ,

There are socialists, and then there is a fairly new wave of terminally online toxic assholes borrowing socialist rhetoric.

There is a difference between activism and empty virtue signaling. A huge portion of the online left is more interested in letting everyone know how pissed off they are than actually making the cultural gains necessary to improve anything.

c0mbatbag3l ,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Plus they think the stupidest shit matters.

Earlier I saw people complaining about the Hogwarts game because of JK Rowling. Yeah, don’t play the videogame based on the book series that was written by a transphobe. Cause somehow that means the videogame and it’s developers are all transphobic too?

Someone should tell them transphobic people breathe oxygen, maybe they’ll suffocate themselves as activism.

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT ,

I mean I boycott products if I don’t agree where the money is going. Nestle, Amazon, Israel (BDS), etc etc. Everyone who has the capacity should at the very least try to avoid funding people and projects they think are detrimental to life.

c0mbatbag3l ,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

How much of the revenue is actually going to Rowling for the product?

UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT ,

I have no idea or interest in finding out, but it isn’t zero

dylanTheDeveloper ,
@dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

There’s people who are constructive and try to be polite who have different world views, and then there’s the people who just insult and spam racial slurs. The second category gets a block on offending users and a block on an entire community if it’s repeated

Inui ,

What racial slurs?

Aria ,

You know what ‘racial slurs’ they care about. “White”, maybe “privileged”, maybe “spoiled”, “entitled”, “Northerner”, “Imperial core”.

ComradePupIvy , (edited )
@ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml avatar

I do not know what you are talking about, you were the one who came put swinging, they reacted like I would expect,

Also proudboys are Fash, guess who is the most anti-fash

Also ypur political annalisis seems to go from “is like trump suporter” to “Is like proudboy” not very nuanced

P.S. I only found this because I had to track down said hexbear post because of the smearing you do with it while convenently not linking it… so for context lemmygrad.ml/comment/3197853, it was not for “simply liking southpark”

Yerbouti ,

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    ComradePupIvy ,
    @ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    Track You? No I found this as I was trying to find context to your claim you kept making on Lemmygrad that seemed far feched, but as I said I was giving you the bennift of the doubt, this one poppoed up when I searched the page for Hexbear.

    To bully you, also no I am adding context to your constant claim that is blantantly false, I do not understand how someone with a Doctorate in something and 42 years of life still thinks that providing context to a smear is bullying, but smearing a comunity of people, who is one of the most inclusive and welcoming groups on the internet, is not bullying.

    ComradePupIvy , (edited )
    @ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    And what agian id the deff of dictator, I could easily argue Troudou, Mary Simon or Charly III could be dictators of canada, and Biden the dictator of the US

    Also with the bullying, repeated malicious name calling check, constant, and at this point with how many times we have explained to the post I have to assume intetional and malicious miss understanding, Constant calling us facists, and agian, as was explained to you before Communists are not Facists and we dont support trump, nor do we “enable” him, and calling us all “privlaged white boys” agian I would love to direct you to our demographics survey

    But the behavior you have been demonstrating is the behavior consistant of a bully, not I, not my fellows from Lemmygrad, not those from Hexbear, so I would recommend, as one human to another, that you take a seat, and reflect, because clearly something is stuck in your craw, and I genuinely hope it gets

    ryathal ,

    I blame the Israel/Palestine conflict heating up again. It made it more apparent how much antisemitism was lurking below the surface. Ecer since it seems like there’s a significant divide even on communities that aren’t news and politics focused.

    Bayz0r ,

    Yeah, that’s definitely what the conflict brought to light. Not the fact that people and most nations are happy to allow or even support literal genocide and ethnic cleansing as long as it’s done by people they like against people they don’t like.

    Zirconium ,

    There were 153/193 votes calling for a ceasefire for a UN resolution. It’s not most nations that are happy with it

    diskmaster23 ,

    For me, it’s the genocide thing. Like how the USA killed over a half million people in Iraq.

    WanderingVentra ,

    I also think it’s the Israel/Palestine conflict but for the complete opposite reason lol.

    davel ,
    @davel@lemmy.ml avatar

    Maybe it’s the instances I frequent, but almost all of the “antisemitism” I’ve been seeing is actually anti-Zionism/non-Zionism, which are not antisemitism, despite Zionists’ unending efforts to conflate the them. In fact, Zionist antisemitism is a thing.

    ryathal ,

    Most claims I see are saying it’s just criticism of Israel, and then excusing literally anything hamas/Palestine does as totally legitimate, which is way more than being anti-zionist.

    davel ,
    @davel@lemmy.ml avatar

    By the UN General Assembly, not only do the Palestinians have a right to armed struggle against their occupiers, but the occupiers do not have a right to defend themselves.

    Aria ,

    If Hamas started attacking Yemen or Lebanon or Syria we’d all join you in being cross with them, but so far they seem to be attacking Israel.

    VanHalbgott ,

    I feel you: someone was trolling me for what I said about Busuu because I used the words ‘gender’ and ‘sexuality’ as a Christian.

    GiddyGap ,

    It’s an election year and Trump is in the election.

    MedicPigBabySaver ,
    @MedicPigBabySaver@voxpop.social avatar

    A terrible and infuriating time. Brutal year ahead.

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    At least we had three years of rest, right?!??

    MedicPigBabySaver ,
    @MedicPigBabySaver@voxpop.social avatar

    Well, not exactly, that orange cockroach has been scurrying around this whole time.

    Honytawk ,

    Didn’t you guys have an attempted coup in that time?

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    xXX88Trump_The_Strongman14XXx personally assured me that was just a peaceful protest

    Daft_ish ,

    Completely unprompted too. Just normal people who happened to independently organize that day.

    Just happened to book a flight to DC that day, who knew?

    unreasonabro ,

    anybody with xXX in their name is a virgin though

    Drewfro66 , (edited )
    @Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    I think it’s just a growing pain of the contradictions of Federation resolving themselves, mostly in the political sphere.

    You have left-wing instances (lemmygrad.ml), center-right instances (lemmy.world), and right-wing instances (sh.itjust.works). Even if different instances defederate with each other, there will always be overlap instances (lemmy.ml being the biggest, but also lemm.ee, startrek.website, mander.xyz, programming.dev, etc.). And while individual users can block specific instances, this doesn’t prevent them from seeing and responding to their posts. Communists and Liberals and Libertarians, who each believe the others are literally as bad as the Nazis (and I’m not making a value judgement here - maybe some of them are right), are forced to interact with each other on occasionally political topics.

    The hard right, unlike in Reddit, isn’t really a figure here - and moderators on Lemmy don’t know how to handle political disagreements where both sides are within the sphere of acceptable discourse.

    WanderingVentra ,

    That and an election year plus huge, ongoing international events recently means people are all heightened and on edge.

    GoodbyeBlueMonday ,

    I must be ancient here, because nobody has claimed this is like September 1993 all over again…

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September

    Justas ,
    @Justas@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I am not that old but I know that reference. :)

    Mango ,

    I was 2. I’m still traumatized.

    june ,

    People have been asking this for as long as I’ve been on lemmy.

    It depends a LOT on which instances you interact with. It’s a challenge of the fediverse in that every person has their own unique experience, some bad others good.

    BlanK0 ,

    Definitely this 👆

    Hamartiogonic , (edited )
    @Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

    And it also depends on the communities you visit. If you enjoy verbal first fights, try politics and news. If not, there are also quite a few wholesome communities too.

    Sekrayray ,

    The vibe has gotten much more negative, to the point that I don’t really want to post anymore. I came here in early June with the Reddit API stuff, and was shocked at how communal it was. It actually got me to start posting again (I hadn’t posted on Reddit since the early to mid 20-teens because it had gotten so toxic).

    My last three posts (nothing inflammatory) have gotten flamed. Someone actually hunted me down based on my post history and I had to take the time deleting most of my old posts.

    So from my perspective it’s not just you. I’m back to being a lurker.

    dylanTheDeveloper ,
    @dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah I stopped posting when most of the smaller communities died out due to the DDoS attacks on Lemmy world. All the larger communities are pretty hostile to new people

    Illecors ,

    Please don’t. Join another instance, run your own, whatever. We need more canapés!

    Sekrayray ,

    Ha ha I wish—that’s one of the few things I left up that didn’t get completely bombed by a hostile user and their 8 alt accounts. All I said in a comment was that women should be allowed to play video games without the expectation of being hit on my random men, but I guess that’s an unpopular opinion 🤷‍♂️. No more content from me lol.

    Illecors ,

    Couple of things.

    • There’s some quote about evil winning when good peeps do nothing
    • You need a thicker skin. Aim for a world where you don’t, but this one requires it. Besides, it’s the internet - fuck em.
    Sekrayray ,

    Appreciate it. I’ve got a thick skin in real life—I just feel like doing anything in the virtual world which requires me to engage my thick skin is sort of a waste of my energy. I zero percent mean that as though I’m trying to start an argument here, but if I’m gonna get cyberstalked for a couple comments here or there it’s just not really worth it to me.

    Blaze ,
    @Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Sorry to hear. If you want a more laid-back community, there is !casualconversation

    Sekrayray ,

    Thanks, I’ll give it a try. Just made my first post there

    UnrepententProcrastinator ,

    Holidays, shorter days, colder weather affects depression a lot.

    And there is a correlation between being very active on social media and depression.

    Online Social Networking and Mental Health

    Just be nice and patient with them they deliver most of your content for free.

    S_204 ,

    The same assholes who were on Reddit being pieces of shit are here too.

    It’s the internet, everything is reduced to being shitty within weeks of getting noticed.

    WanderingVentra ,

    The Eternal September found us 😭 But it was only a matter of time

    boatsnhos931 ,

    Why don’t you shut hell up nerd

    LunarVoyager ,

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    boatsnhos931 ,

    It’s just you

    Resol ,
    @Resol@lemmy.world avatar

    Idk why, but I feel like I’m starting to associate this kind of behavior with people who used to be on Reddit and moved over here when all the third party apps got Thanos snapped.

    I first got here around July 2023, and it was pretty cool. Nowadays it’s probably a little less cool.

    madcaesar ,

    There has been an uptick in right wing nutbags and bOtH sIdEs morons… Coupled with the fact that we have to deal with Trump AGAIN had made all of us angrier because we didn’t believe our neighbours could be THIS dumb to vote for a criminal that tried to overthrow democracy.

    It’s resulted in a tone of “I’m sick of this shit!!” from the left

    Trump is a cancer.

    RickTofu ,

    You’re calling people nutbags, morons, dumb and cancer in the span of 4 sentences… Yes, for sure the “right wing nutbags” and “bOtH sIdEs morons” are the issue here. Stay humble buddy.

    madcaesar ,

    Did you miss the part where I’m saying that their stupidity is causing us to be more angry?

    I also find a lot of lemmy replies is idiots replying and criticising a comment without adding any corrections.

    Are right wing shooters NOT nutbags?

    Are both sides people NOT morons?

    Is Trump NOT a cancer?

    Unless you have something to add and refute my claim, kindly do fuck off with your grandstanding.

    TheGalacticVoid ,

    “Right wing nutbags” did not type out your comment. You did. If you can’t convey anger in a way that doesn’t straight-up insult people, all you’re doing is alienating people, and you really need to grow up.

    madcaesar ,

    I don’t give a shit about alienating people that see women as second class citizens and trans people as something to be destroyed.

    You can feel good about yourself being “grown up”, I’ll rather support those than need it instead of grandstanding on lemmy like some douche.

    dessalines ,

    Its often difficult, but important, to be respectful while disagreeing. You’ll find you alienate people a lot less, and win more converts if you do.

    If its an outright bigoted comment tho, no need to respond: just downvote and report it, and move on.

    TheGalacticVoid ,

    Exactly. The vast majority of people aren’t brick walls, they’re literally people with their own experiences and set of knowledge. They’re all going to make decisions using that set because they literally don’t know what other people experience.

    locuester ,

    So you’re targeting half the US population with this “dumb people” accusation? And you feel this is tolerant and polite?

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    Half at a minimum.

    valgarf ,

    Tolerance always has a limit. And the one thing any tolerant society can never tolerate are intolerant people - because they will destroy that society. Trump and his followers are the very definition of intolerant.

    Thus the “if you are tolerant, you have to tolerate me” argument is often used by aforementioned nutbags or internet trolls, and I very much hope you fall into the latter category.

    And regarding stupidity - sadly there is no mechanism to ensure that it is fairly distributed. A less than ideal public school system paired with the propaganda of media conglomerates can easily result in a society with half the population considered “dumb” (not really stupid, but brainwashed / uneducated with a lack of critical thinking and/or a lack of basic scientific knowledge …) - but I would not judge the US population that quickly. Trump is probably also a symptom of the broken US democracy.

    locuester ,

    I certainly didn’t write “if you are tolerant then you have to tolerate me”. However what I wrote I can’t recall. Something about not being so nasty to dumb people. I stand by that statement. I don’t speak ill of dumb people or Trump supporters as a whole. The only reason to do such a thing is to incite anger from a group.

    madcaesar ,

    I don’t tolerate those who have no respect for others. If you hate women, gays, trans people… No I won’t tolerate you.

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