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Is it just me, or have the comments on Lemmy become extra aggressive over the past 3 months?

I feel like things on Lemmy were pretty chill several months ago, and that’s started to change.

People used to talk each other like they would talk to a neighbor. Now I get the sense that people have become quick to be negative, attack, and not be constructive.

Am I crazy in feeling like the vibe has changed?

Septimaeus , (edited )

Anecdotally, I’ve seen more spam lately too.

Btw, what are we calling aggressive chat bots? Auto-trolls? Strife bots? Strife-bots? Contentionator-3000s?

viking ,
@viking@infosec.pub avatar

Giving them a name means acknowledging their existence. Block and ignore ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ.

sunbeam60 ,

I’ve always found the tone harder here than it ever was on Reddit. Community blocking is key to enjoying Lemmy; even still, I think the audience is younger here than it was on Reddit and younger people broadly feel pretty shafted by today’s economy (they’re not wrong either) and tend to express themselves in simpler solutions (some of them correct in ways older folks can’t let go of their habits to recognise, many of them wrong in ways you can only learn through wisdom). Lack of consistent community management means you have to be much more aggressive in blocking individuals and communities yourself.

viking ,
@viking@infosec.pub avatar

I’ve resorted to instance blocking instead of community blocking, most of the worst offenders are all on the same instances anyway. And then individual users based on their nonsensical comments, plus a curated keyword blocklist.

It’s just like back on reddit… One of the reasons why I couldn’t do it without Sync, haven’t seen the filter capabilities in any other app.

Churbleyimyam ,

I’ve found that it depends on the community. The bigger ones get more toxic comments but more niche ones are still polite. What that suggests to me is that people who are here for entertainment are more likely to rant and mouth off, whereas as those who are here to share their passions and interests are engaging in a more fun and positive way.

moosetwin ,
@moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It’s definitely gotten worse, especially the political circlejerk, jeez.

FiskFisk33 ,

with the american elections coming up, tensions are rising. Quite predictably so, really

half_built_pyramids ,

If I say something spicy it’s usually because I feel like whoever I’m responding to isn’t making a point in good faith.

There was a thread last month where someone was asking why race was a bad thing. That wasn’t the text, but it was subtext. I posted something about how op probably would have been sterilized under eugenics policy. I get why I was banned. It was spicy. I still think op was pulling a “just asking questions” racism. I responded how I felt that kind of question deserved to be treated. Look me up in the mod logs if you’re curious.

Omega_Haxors ,

Leave it to lemmy.world to ban you for being against eugenics.

SorteKanin ,
@SorteKanin@feddit.dk avatar

I still think op was pulling a “just asking questions” racism. I responded how I felt that kind of question deserved to be treated.

I suppose you wanted to handle it yourself, but the proper way to treat that stuff is just to report it to the mods and move on.

half_built_pyramids ,

Post is still up, friend. Or at least I assume it is because I got banned from that community and I can’t see the post anymore. I didn’t see that mod take anyone else out with me, either.

MBM ,

Ah yes, the “you can say the most vile shit you want, just remember to be polite about it” ideology

Buelldozer ,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

You mean comments like this one?

feddit.nl/comment/6215624

Yeah, it’s getting worse.

starman2112 ,
@starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

My god. I sit here couching my thinly veiled calls for civil disobedience in “in minecraft” and “this is satire,” and here’s someone openly calling for a murder. Maybe next time I want to make a joke about billboard burning being a fun pastime for the whole family, I won’t be as afraid of getting a visit from the fun police

Kolrami ,

And it’s upvoted

HerrBeter ,

I don’t think people thought about it too much. But it shouldn’t be allowed, even if it’s a joke

exocrinous ,

You can just say whatever you want on the internet. Watch this:

People who eat meat are murderers and deserve to be killed. It’ll reduce the number of murders overall.

See? It’s easy.

fosforus ,

Holy shit.

“Work reform” my ass. It’s just a facade for full-blown communist revolution, which in my humble opinion is just a facade for “let’s break everything and replace it with something worse”.

MonsieurArchi ,

Yes! I’ve been seeing a lot of toxic comments and posts lately. It’s kinda turning into a niche hyper toxic reddit.

pan_troglodytes ,

many, if not most of the popular/highly-trafficked communities are basically echo chambers now, anyone who disagrees with whatever the cookie-cutter general consensus of the day is becomes a hate magnet.

exocrinous ,

Disagree with an admin and you’re a pariah.

fosforus , (edited )

I find comments like this a bit weird. I first got into lemmy about 2 years ago, and back then lemmy.ml was full of toxic leftism. It still is, but at least now there is more federation so it’s easier to ignore all that without losing all comments.

Overall, toxicity rises with popularity. It’s just impossible to gain a lot of users without some of them disagreeing with you. And social media is designed to increase friction, so things get toxic. Even if Lemmy isn’t making money from that friction like something like Reddit is, it’s still using the exact same design.

TheAnonymouseJoker ,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Reddit exodus effects. Reddit did not have the best kind of people on the internet. It just has had a bit more tamed 4channers.

Also, it is way too clear how there is political animosity that practically threatens real lives of non-white people, or ruins their job/career lives, in the current situation that went from Ukraine side picking to Israel apartheid support vs opposition. All this as we came from COVID pandemic, horrific mental health and fucked up socialising abilities.

Omega_Haxors ,

Lemmy is one of those places where you’re expected to be kind, but not necessarily expected to apply that to neo-nazis like on Reddit.

exocrinous ,

No, I’ve definitely had people on Lemmy upset that I was unkind to fascists.

Omega_Haxors ,

Sure fine, but you weren’t banned for it.

exocrinous ,

Yeah, I was.

Omega_Haxors ,

Yikes. Sorry you had to put up with that shit.

Ilovethebomb ,

What’s funny about this is .ml is one of the nastiest, most toxic instances out there.

OurToothbrush ,

Nah, most of the extreme racism or genocide denial/advocation I moderate comes from lemmy.world and shitholefornazis. .ml users are generally tame, especially the old hats.

Evotech ,

Depends on the threads you discuss i guess, I find it pretty chill

schizoidman ,

I feel the mainstream lemmy instances have attracted the reddit mob mentality where any deviation from the groupthink is treated as radicals or bots.

Pratai ,

Only it’s pro socialism.

HerrBeter ,

That’s lemmygrad

exocrinous ,

That’s because capitalism is an extreme right wing idea

nutsack ,

every time I see a full page meme in the middle of a comments thread I want to punch a hole right through its face

replicat ,

Yeah tbh image embeds were a mistake IMO.

force ,

i love them personally, it was annoying as fuck not having them on reddit

HerrBeter ,

Maybe a size adjuster is needed

Daft_ish ,

All I know is the tanky and red scare shit took a steep nose dive.

corsicanguppy ,

People used to talk each other like they would talk to a neighbor.

Careful. I’ll correct my neighbour’s spelling, too . :-)

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

It has gotten worse and it will only continue to do so. There are people who are respectful and hold back their darkest impulses, but there are others who choose to hold those same features in high regard, as literal virtues in their eyes. Blocking hexbear and lemmygrad has helped my own peace of mind immensely, but you would not want to block lemmy.ml or lemmy.world or such so… here we are.

I do not really see any permanent solution to this problem, short of eternal vigilance. That’s just nature though, e.g. viruses constantly evolve and seek new hosts, hence hosts that do not keep up die, there’s no way around needing to keep up defenses against such a tireless onslaught. Similarly for information vs. misinformation too, it seems:-(.

It has also gotten much harder to have any discussion with even the tiniest hint of subtlety on the Fediverse - is Biden/Linux/socialism/religion good or bad? “Yes.” For some of us, knowing what will happen - the flood of toxic responses I mean - if we dare to speak up is enough to cause us to cringe enough that we would simply rather stay silent instead. If only the opposing side were like that too! But no, they elect not to hold their own tongues, even while expecting YOU to hold yours. That too seems just the nature of the universe.

SnotFlickerman ,
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

if we dare to speak up is enough to cause us to cringe enough that we would simply rather stay silent instead.

It’s a different kind of Chilling Effect. It reduces conversation, because it convinces some people to not become involved at all.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

Whereas conversations like this one with you has the opposite effect - thank you for your addition and the link:-).

Omega_Haxors ,

People here realize that narratives have consequences and know we can’t just live in la-la land where everyone is happy all the time. I mean yeah you can do that but then don’t be surprised pikachu face when you find yourself in the company of neo-nazis who are doing the same.

OpenStars ,
@OpenStars@startrek.website avatar

Lolz you are hilarious - if I get called a derogatory term like “stupid”, and I don’t like it, then I am a literal, actual Nazi? :-P That really makes me curious… what if I DO like it:-P?

Omega_Haxors ,

Could you please translate, that was completely incoherent.

RememberTheApollo_ ,

Dunno. I still think Lemmy is better by quite a bit. I still participate I reddit occasionally, and I think it’s become far less engaging as a place of discussion. It’s just the same old reposts and tired old comments over and over. It’s rarer to find insightful comment chains.

Lemmy is starting to attract some of the Reddit tropes. Dumb sex questions in asklemmy or any of the other retreads that we’ve all seen a score of times. But as far as discussions go, if one can get into one, they’re good.

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