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ArcaneSlime ,

92 comments huh? Well without even reading I’m sure about 90% of them say the same thing: Brother Laser Printer. This is the way. Join us Brother.

excitingburp , (edited )

I had a really bad experience with a $30 hand scanner and Brother support (they included the wrong size calibration sheet in the packaging and refused to replace it, and were assholes/user blaming about it). I definitely did not want to deal with that for a $400 printer/scanner combo. I went with Xerox 6515 instead, which has been going solid for 4 years - black toner is at 25%, the rest are mostly full. I have never used it with USB, only Ethernet (plugged in network). Works great with Windows, Linux, and Mac. The scanner does great work.

Cheap printers are cheap because they make up the cost with ink. If you want something decent then bite the bullet and fork over more cash upfront. A printer designed for corporate/office work will typically be more durable - but buyer beware, may have “features” that only look good on a sales presentation. Do your research, avoid cloud storage/fax/etc.

I also got my godmother an Epson Ecotank, due to simplicity. It has been going swimmingly. Their “innovation” is (massive, mind you) refillable tanks in the printer, you must buy bottles of ink. That makes ink DRM impossible, but their ink is cheap enough that bootleg ink is unnecessary.

If you can’t afford a more expensive printer right now then take trips to your local FedEx/whatever and put some money each time you do towards a decent printer. DO NOT get a temporary cheap printer, ink will easily cost you the same as a decent printer over a short period of time.

Tyfud ,

I have a Cannon laserjet and it’s amazing, cheap to operate, and has worked great for almost 10 years

NutWrench ,
@NutWrench@lemmy.ml avatar

Another vote for Brother . I have a black & white laser printer (mfc-L2675). And I can get a 3-pack of toner off Amazon for around $20.

atheos ,
@atheos@lemmy.atheos.org avatar

20 year old HP LaserJet

bruhduh ,
@bruhduh@lemmy.world avatar

Honestly, i have 20 year old hp and epson printers and they don’t have this proprietary problems modern ones have

InputZero ,

I love HP! They prove that successive generations of technology are not necessarily improvements. I hate my parents HP printer. I thought I taught them better than that but apparently not.

adaveinthelife ,

Canon laser, no question.

I believe they manufacture for other brands including brother, but I just woke up and I’m too lazy to reference. You like doing online research like this anyway, so you’re welcome.

Ixoid , (edited )
@Ixoid@lemmy.world avatar

Brother, my brother. My little HL1200 serves my needs nicely, is cheap to run with both genuine and third party toner, and the company isn’t run by a bunch of greedy pigs. Probably the only printer brand I’ll ever buy again. Fuck HP indeed.

Edit: discovered Brother plays that game too

Crashumbc ,

Just got a Cannon laser with a scanner for less than $100 can’t beat that.(d570 I think)

Had an old Samsung laser that was amazing.

But only get laser and only B/W. And F HP!

____ ,

Nope. They’re all shit.

Partially because ink/toner scam.

Partially because fuck you, I bought the damn thing. If I am ok with stripy printouts until I squeeze the last molecule of toner from your hellcartridge, imma do it and you can’t stop me.

Ex. I bought a $30 printer off eBay. Burned thru the toner quickly. Bought cartridge.

Turns out that this printer counts pages - and only pages - and hangs itself at an arbitrary number of the same.

Twenty pages of the cartridge were lettter sized.

Ten were A4.

The remaining pages? A fucking 5.

IOW, I printed thirty total pages of US letter. And the remainder were half-letter.

Printer doesn’t care, a page is a page.

Admittedly, printers have to sol e a fairly difficult MechEng problem - grab one and only one sheet, pull it just right, and don’t wrinkle it.

That doesn’t give the mfg the right to extort us. I literally should have 2x the A5 pages I’ve remaining bc by def each one is half of (roughly) a full page.

I’ve gone from printing general templates for my day to day, to developing things that feel native to me to draw - but I’m also a fountain pen hobbyist and truly care about paper quality, etc.

TL;dr - I just want some damn lines to color between, as I organize and journal my life. Printer manufacturers have abs ruined that. There are zero good ones.

Srsly I’d rather spend the time to carefully develop a template for day to day use and trace it (max 1 hr, tracing it then takes zero time to speak to) than deal with printers.

But that’s just me, an IT guy who values organizing in an analog world.

Oh, also, a 40ish IT guy who remembers LaserJets that were nearly bulletproof and still weren’t worth screwing with.

Saigonauticon ,

Interestingly, here in Asia some inkjet printers are sold with huge (like 500ml per color) external ink tanks that take very cheap 3rd party ink. They’re not terribly expensive. I see all the print shops and some businesses using them, they seem to work OK. I don’t have one personally, but recently I’ve been tempted to get one.

If I do, I’ll post about it somewhere. It sounds like it’s nearly worth physically flying all the way over here, buying one, and carrying it back. If you’re a small business owner and print a lot or something.

HurlingDurling ,
@HurlingDurling@lemmy.world avatar

Looks like my next printer will be from alibaba

Saigonauticon ,

Worth a shot. Let us know how it works out!

ShortFuse ,

Did well with Brother laser printer. Canon was okay.

I had setup a friend’s HP printer and noticed he was constantly switching to WiFi Direct in order to print. I did him the favor of connecting it to the AP, so he wouldn’t have to manually switch all the time.

The moment it got online, the printer locked itself down and refused to continue print until he paid for a subscription service on the ink.

Lem453 ,

My brother laser printer has been going for like 7 years. I bought a replacement drum head recently but that’s the only thing other than toner that it has needed.

indepndnt ,

I got myself a Xerox printer because I figured I’d be familiar with the interface since all the offices I worked in had Xerox printers, plus I figured getting a near-corporate printer might keep some of the bullshit away since Xerox would probably not want to motivate their corporate customers to switch brands. AFAICT they probably get most of their business through service, not so much product.

So far it has worked out well. I have yet to buy a Xerox brand toner cartridge, and I’ve had this printer for several years and I keep getting consistent high quality prints. Some of the features are not super intuitive, but I don’t think it’s terrible to have to read the manual once in awhile.

Saigonauticon ,

I have a funny story about a Xerox printer!

I had a problem where there was ink left (this was a solid-ink printer, the ink came in blocks you could easily see), but the page count had run out and it wouldn’t print. So we found the flash memory IC that held the info – it used I2C to communicate. There’s a similar IC on consumer RAM to store the manufacturer info. We swapped it in, hex-edited it so there were a huge number of pages left, and put it back in the printer.

It worked fine!

Then, days later, I noticed that the printer’s web interface let you reset the page counter by just pressing a button in a web browser. So the whole hack had been completely unnecessary :D

Jayb151 ,

Actually, I work in it and had to install a xerox printer for someone’s home office yesterday. Grab the driver’s, go to install and it completely failed. I told the guy to restart and we’ll try again tomorrow since it was the end of my shift. Guy messages me back, the printer and PC restarted and when he walked back to it, there was a page printed that said congrats on your new printer.

Fucking thing failed successfully.

deadcatbounce ,
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Have one of the last decent HP printers.

I’ve gone from being able to easily and happily recycling my laser printer cartridges to HP - print off the label and send free post - to going through some convoluted account sign-up bullshit pictures of my inside leg whilst upside down. Yeah not happening.

Eventually my toner is going to be too expensive to support and the printer scanner will break.

Thank-you for asking this question.

metaballism ,

I like my Xerox Phaser 3020. No complaints so far, doesn’t even require installing drivers, and cheap non-OEM toners are widely available.

ryathal ,

No printer. Unless you really print frequently, just use printing services from place like Staples, FedEx or UPS. Your local library probably even does printing. The drive is better than dealing with a printer.

LoveSausage , (edited )

Brother laser , no WiFi , no color , prints perfect everytime. Cost like 200 euro. Edit checked model HL-L23100

Saigonauticon ,

The ones that have a network jack, and WiFi that you can turn off are OK too!

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