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Etterra ,

Why be a good person when you can just fake it? JFC…

FlyingSquid ,
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I honestly do not think there are enough Americans who want to make the effort to fight a civil war. There could be little militia groups here and there who would likely to be put down quickly, but a mass uprising? When people can’t be bothered to get off of their couch?

Not to mention, who’s going quit their job to leave and fight a civil war and expect their partner to cover the rent by themselves? It’s not like civil wars put a pause on all of that.

echodot ,

I also sincerely doubt that they could self-organize well enough. Most of them seem to think that they would wave their guns around and the evil liberals would surrender.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

If it didn’t happen on January 6th, I think it’s very unlikely it would happen even if Trump loses again. Most of the people who think the election was stolen also think, “well, there’s nothing I can do about it. I guess I have to move on with my life. Biden sucks though.”

Chenzo ,
@Chenzo@lemmy.world avatar

I dunno… I keep coming back to a thing I read recently about how most people back in Nazi Germany didn’t want to exterminate all the Jews.

they just didn’t care.

CitizenKong ,

Also Hitler only won with 35 percent of the popular vote.

CeruleanRuin ,

The worst truth is that most of those who did care, even deeply, felt that they could not do anything or say anything because then they and their whole family would become targets. It’s rarely as simple as individual selfishness.

pinkdrunkenelephants OP ,

Think back to the 2020 national uprising.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

And that resulted in what? Was the government overthrown?

pinkdrunkenelephants OP ,

Are you asking sincerely or are you some anti-disestablisment bootlicker looking for a place to sink your hookers into?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I’m pretty sure I already know which one you’ve decided I am, so I don’t think I need to know your answer.

pinkdrunkenelephants OP ,

And it couldn’t possibly just be that everyone else is aware of how people like you think and your bad choices. Nope, you’re the victim because you want to prop up a broken system that destroys everyone around you simply to maintain your comfort.

But you can’t. You can’t do that anymore and you can’t emotionally bludgeon everyone else into submitting to your opinion.

Find a better way to feed yourself than exploiting your neighbors.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Yep, that’s what I thought.

pinkdrunkenelephants OP ,

Yeah, that’s what we all knew about you from the start. Thanks for playing, you abusive bootlicking creep.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Just curious- who elected you to speak for everyone but me? I assume there was an election.

pinkdrunkenelephants OP ,

Oh, excuse me, are you still talking? I thought you were done slinging emotional barbs hoping to stop people from openly supporting revolution. Guess I was wrong.

Let me make it easier on you: you’re the kind of scumbag who has to have the last word, so go ahead and prove my point by running your mouth some more so you can feel like you’ve won something, like people like you always do. Go on:

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

That’s not an answer. All I want to know is when the election was.

twisted28 , (edited )

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    pinkdrunkenelephants OP ,

    *You’re

    Mr_Blott ,

    I’m not even American, and I’m automatically reading his replies in a squeaky whiny American teenager’s voice lmao. Something about the syntax just screams “prepubescent” 😂

    darthfabulous42069 ,

    You don’t sound any better to be quite frank. You’re not only lowering yourself by stooping to their level, but you’re legitimizing their behavior by doing exactly what they accused Flying Squid of doing.

    twisted28 , (edited )

    I don’t remember the situation just that he was being an asshole, I don’t have the time or energy to care what you think either. The same asshole made an alternate account to harass me.

    pinkdrunkenelephants OP ,

    Lmfao someone else comes in here and hoists your lard ass by your own petard, and your only response is to prove you’re the one being a dick by snapping at them? They were being nice to you, bro.

    It’s okay. It took you 2 edits by my count to figure out how to spell you’re, so it’s clear you’re not the sharpest bayonet in the Nazi battalion.

    🤣

    pinkdrunkenelephants ,

    Okay, let me explain something to your dumb hypocritical ass before you make a fool out of yourself any further:

    You’re clearly the only one being an asshole and a bully here.

    You’re the one being the – how did you put it? “authoritarian we should try to avoid”, and you’re the one being a worthless hypocrite on top of it.

    This is me talking to you via an alt account, an account I have because most people on Lemmy have at least 2 or 3 by virtue of federation.

    You did nothing but take a cheap shot at some innocent dumb fuck who stuck their oar in because you wanted to hurt me and my feelings. And judging from the rest of your account activity, you very blatantly do the exact same thing you accuse me of doing, all the time, non-stop. And you have zero self-awareness at all.

    So why would you even come here all offended at me in the first place, unless you yourself were just @FlyingSquid’s dumbass alt? I guess we’re all alts here, moron.

    It’s okay though. You’re acting just like me and I’m here for it. 👏

    twisted28 , (edited )

    Haha if you think I’m gonna read your wall of text get fucked loser, I see it’s still in your brain. Little bitch, you gonna make a fourth account now?

    twisted28 ,

    Yeah! We fuckin’ got him! He lives so rent-free in our head that we felt the need to respond to him after we declared we blocked him to win an internet argument! Yeah! As long as we keep accusing him of doing literally exactly what we have been doing to him non-stop, we’ll win that fucking internet trophy and prove we’re clearly better than lame-ass pinkdrunk who had the nerve to hurt our feelings telling us what we didn’t want to hear! High-five, altbro!

    twisted28 ,

    Haaahhaahhaaa you fucking loser still trying to harass me. I see I’m living in your head for sure, fuckin dork. This is why your family and everyone else hates you

    twisted28 ,

    Since you made five accounts to try to communicate with me, I must’ve really hit the nail on the head. You’re just a lonely hateful incel trying to find attention any where you can. Well you won’t get that attention from me you fucking loser

    twisted28 , (edited )

    Yeah, got him again with not one but two responses this time! Yeah! That’ll show that meanie douchebag who the real bully is! We’ll… we’ll win the argument. We won’t walk away from this with a bruised ego or hurt feelings. We’ll get that last word in. sniffle 😢 sniffle We’ll show the world he’s the real asshole and the bully and we’re not just two chucklefucks rolling around in the mud like everyone else on the internet. I am better than stupid-ass pinkdrunk. We’ll prove it!

    twisted28 ,

    Dude fuck off already

    AngryCommieKender , (edited )

    You’re attacking the choir on this one

    Edit: since no one is paying attention, Flying Squid didn’t actually say anything. That user isn’t who pinkdrunkard thinks they are. Pinkdrunkard is attacking a fellow leftist.

    Asafum ,

    Well at least their name is accurate lol

    pinkdrunkenelephants OP , (edited )

    Nope, wrong. I was responding to @FlyingSquid who said, and I quote:

    And that resulted in what? Was the government overthrown?

    You’re the hopeless moron that can’t follow the thread.

    AngryCommieKender ,

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    pinkdrunkenelephants OP ,

    And now here you are trying to attack me to make yourself superior to everyone else.

    Projecting your own ignorance and stupid mistakes onto me.

    Because whenever you see anyone openly expressing a desire to get rid of a government that is objectively evil in every way, it angers you, and you pounce and you attack, bullying everyone else around you into submission, making them think they’re evil hypocrites or bad people for wanting to be free of this hell.

    And now that you’ve run into me, the one asshole on this server that isn’t afraid of you sycophantic, capitalistic, exploitative, sadists you get Big Mad, don’t you?

    Sucks when you get bullied back, doesn’t it?

    Yeller_king ,

    Well, they will control the military when Trump wins back the white house.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Will they obey orders to violate their military oaths? I mean I realize we can’t guarantee they won’t, but I just think a lot of the rank and file would not be willing to fire on their fellow citizens.

    Yeller_king ,

    I agree but that’s how you might have a shooting war (or at least significant skirmishes). If some of them obey and others don’t.

    Enfors ,
    @Enfors@lemm.ee avatar

    Yeah. These people largely couldn’t be bothered to get vaccinated for their fellow Americans, something tells me they’re not gonna go get themselves shot by the US military for their fellow Americans either to any significant degree.

    c0mbatbag3l ,
    @c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

    That logic only works if you assume they didn’t get vaccinated because of laziness which isn’t the source of their refusal.

    rayyy ,

    People don’t understand how this would work. First they bully and threaten poll workers so they can put themselves in those position to “adjust” things. They get elected to school boards then advance their agendas. They move up the political ladder. Soon they are a powerful enough to infiltrate courts and instill fear into legislators who do not fully cooperate.
    Once they have control, they use law enforcement to enforce whatever they decide. Democracy is then dead. Welcome to a shithole country of brutal dictators. VOTE or else ^

    Everythingispenguins , (edited )

    You are thinking about it incorrectly, there will never be pitched battles, states wouldn’t secede, there won’t be a war. If there is a sustained conflict it will look much more like the Troubles in Northern Ireland. There will be right wing actors and paramilitaries operating in a decentralized manner. They will start attacking individuals and infrastructure. Leading to a general state of fear. In response left wing actors will form small paramilitary cells to defend/get revenge. Mostly based on a belief that the police are either unable to or intentionally not stopping the right wing actors. As things escalate states will mostly likely be required to call up national guard troops to serve in a law enforcement role. One that they will mostly be untrained for. This will lead to abuses of power most likely in the form of arbitrary detention, torture and forced confessions. Mostly likely against both sides. This will just harden resolve and increase distrust of the government. And of course there will be the rise of political actors on both sides. Ones that most likely will not have any direct control of the paramilitaries but will use their bully pulpits to direct action while maintaining the appearance of freedom of speech. In the meantime the federal government may be so paralyzed by partisanship that it is incapable of taking meaningful action.

    Yeah I don’t sleep well… Sorry if you all don’t now either.

    Additional_Prune ,

    Rwanda has entered the chat.

    pinkdrunkenelephants OP ,

    Yugoslavia seems like a more equivalent comparison, but fair

    Narrrz ,

    this puts me in mind of the conservative neighbours I had living out in the country a couple of years ago. need to borrow milk, get your car started, towed out of mud, whatever, they were there to help.

    but they quit America to come here because it was becoming a socialist hellhole.

    ('here' is not less socialist than America)

    pinkdrunkenelephants OP ,

    Where is here?

    Kase ,

    Here is there

    c0mbatbag3l ,
    @c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

    I think the point of the cartoon is that some people genuinely are like this. They can’t see the human in front of them without classifying them politically and deciding based on those metrics whether they’re a good person or not. It’s just “you’re a liberal, and therefore I don’t have to care about you.”

    Then they’ll turn around and pretend to be a Christian or whatever.

    TimewornTraveler ,

    Honestly Leftists are like this moreso than conservatives. Not saying whether that’s wrong, but it’s true

    c0mbatbag3l ,
    @c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

    Depends on if the conservative in question is religious. If they usually frothing at the mouth for someone! to kill/destroy those they consider their enemies. Usually it’s just “you wait until my god comes down here and smites you!” But occasionally they’ll just go shoot up a night club or blow up an abortion clinic.

    Zink ,

    Don’t worry, the history books will remember the hippie mass shootings of ‘23. You know the ones.

    Or is this one of those “intolerant of intolerance” things?

    TimewornTraveler , (edited )

    whoa whoa I wasn’t talking about politically-motivated shootings. the comment i replied to just said “see the human”. yeah, it’s the paradox. i just meant that leftists dont put up with conservatives, but conservatives try to appeal to civility and looking like a good christian neighbor and whatnot. their actions are hateful, but they claim to look beyond political leaning when judging a person. i dont think leftists are as inclined to disregard conservatism. a judgment based on politics. maybe it’s not so bad that the left does it way more.

    can the left be intolerant of intolerance while simultaneously looking beyond political leanings and just “see the human”? I don’t know. should they? I don’t know. do they? I think most make a point not to.

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    Chakravanti ,

    And he would kill them once there’s no one left.

    Cqrd ,

    Your title tells me you don’t know anyone like this in real life. Must be nice.

    pinkdrunkenelephants OP ,

    I don’t, you’re right, and for that I am glad. My friends are reasonable people and that’s more than most can say.

    If you are around people like that, you seriously need to cut them out of your life temporarily so they don’t end up hurting you in the next few years, and I am being 100% serious about that. Everything the extremists are saying and doing mirrors what the German people did during the rise of Hitler in the 1930’s, and they can and will report your ass and have you sent off to a concentration camp by the end of the decade if you’re stupid enough to hang around trash like that.

    The family members who were like that back then were the worst, and it’s the same now.

    I would even go so far as to recommend LGBTQ+ folk who live amongst fascist types to not come out to them at all and to do everything possible to save money and move far away from them, and to sanctuary cities, before the shit hits the fan. And those turds are awfully close to the blades…

    Saganaki ,

    Sure, but as the comic specifically says, this is about neighbors, not friends. You don’t necessarily have a choice regarding your neighbors’ beliefs.

    Chetzemoka ,

    I’m all for people staying safe and taking care of themselves, but the problem is moving makes the entire situation worse. Concentrating ourselves into small geographic areas inside cities is what allowed them to gerrymander the shit out of things and get the minority political party locked into outsized political influence.

    Every blue voter that leaves a rural area makes the divide worse. So I praise those who are brave enough to stay.

    pinkdrunkenelephants OP ,

    Then get everyone in those cities to vote to become separate states. That way your vote not only counts for more but can’t be controlled by them anymore.

    AngryCommieKender ,

    Just casually throwing Federal Laws in the trash, there…

    pinkdrunkenelephants OP , (edited )

    No it isn’t. What makes a state a state is historical precedent. There is nothing stopping a local legislature from having a vote and the people voting to declare a city, or probably more accurately a county, a separate state.

    Even if it actually did violate the law, they should just secede and do it anyway, and send representatives to Congress as if it was a state and just emotionally bludgeon everyone else into accepting it as it always has been done.

    Chetzemoka ,

    What makes a state a state is being ratified in Congress. I’m not sure you understand how this works. You don’t just get to make a new state because people vote for it.

    "Is West Virginia Constitutional?

    On the creation of new states, the Constitution is pretty clear. Article IV, Section 3, reads that “no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State … without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.”

    …archives.gov/…/is-west-virginia-constitutional/

    AngryCommieKender , (edited )

    Try reading The Constitution. What makes a state a state is ratification by Congress. After the Civil War every single state (except Texas, kinda) was forced to sign a treaty that states that secession is illegal.

    jballs ,
    @jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

    This is honestly how it feels living in my conservative neighborhood.

    na_th_an ,

    How it feels talking to my father.

    PopShark ,

    How it feels to chew five gum

    theodewere ,
    @theodewere@kbin.social avatar

    this is bullshit.. they don't care who they have to kill.. in fact, they're just waiting for someone to tell them who to start shooting at..

    eran_morad ,

    They’re dumber than dogshit, there’s gotta be a way to convince them to shoot each other.

    TootSweet ,

    It took 0.000000001 seconds for them to decide that the January 6 insurrectionists were actually a false-flag Antifa op (and also simultaneously harmless tourists somehow). It doesn’t seem difficult to convince them to turn on each other, but that’s pretty standard for fascists.

    aniki ,

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    c0mbatbag3l ,
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    The more extreme a group goes, the more the extremists start to eat each other over who is and isn’t extreme enough.

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