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einlander ,

Straight lies. How can you tell someone that unions cannot guarantee anything?

Mudface ,

It’s the company who has to sign off on the CBA, too.

A union can ASK for things, but it’s always the company guaranteeing it.

FMT99 ,

Sure a union technically can not guarantee anything. But I’ll guarantee you’ll be in a million times stronger position with a union.

Chetzemoka ,

They’re also spreading this nonsense at my hospital where we’re actively organizing right now. It preys on people’s ignorance of how legal contracts work.

Your lease doesn’t guarantee that your landlord won’t violate its terms either. But it does give you the ammunition to take them to court and win compensation, if they do.

The same applies to a union contact. It’s legally binding in the same way. Sure the company technically can violate the terms of that agreement. But the union is going to escalate the issue to the NLRB and/or sue them in court, if they do. And you will win, if you provide the evidence that they violated the legally binding contract.

This is what disingenuous corporations call “not guaranteed”

jscummy ,

I think what they’re trying to say is that being in a union, by itself doesn’t guarantee higher wages or better benefits. Which is true, but incredibly misleading since you sure as hell aren’t getting those wage/benefit increases without union membership.

dangblingus ,

“You can’t guarantee that your new collective bargaining agreement will be honored by us.”

CoffeeJunkie ,

Unions literally cannot guarantee you money, dude. Other than what’s in their coffers, and what is “drawn up” in advance, collected for, and spelled out in a written agreement.

Especially fragile new unions, they don’t have jack shit going for them. The company isn’t going to help it form, and they might choose to fire dissenters attempting to unionize. During a strike or demonstrations, even with a formed union, the company isn’t going to pay the workers for not working. In this way, the company is correct in saying “there are no guarantees of pay”. Hell if they don’t like you there’s no guarantee of a job at all, if there’s no established union.

It’s all talk, speculation until a formed union draws up a legal, enforceable contract that both company & union agree to. CBA, as it’s called (Collective Bargaining Agreement).

Sanctus ,
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Piss on anti-union propoganda

Jaysyn ,
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They'd look better on fire.

ssboomman ,

This is always so funny to me. They have money to get these posters designed, have copy written up for them, get them printed, it looks like they paid for a whole website by the looks of the QR code.

That money could’ve been put in the workers pockets. Seeing these anti-union tactics is even more of a reason to unionize.

IWantToFuckSpez ,

Bet hanging and handing out union material on company premises is an instant termination.

captainlezbian ,

No, it’s instant investigation into your performance

Hairyblue ,
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The one union job I had was was great. Union got us good pay with benefits.

I worked at anti union places and seen many people mistreated by management. They had an HR department that would talk to the manager and a few months later management would say their job was no longer necessary and let them go.

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