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TheBananaKing , to news in House Passes Bill To Automatically Register Young Men for the Draft

Fully automated luxury war slavery

assassin_aragorn , to news in House Passes Bill To Automatically Register Young Men for the Draft

For one, I think this was already required. I remember having to enroll in selective service.

For two though, whoever calls another draft is dead in the water. It’s commonly accepted that starting an actual draft is political suicide.

That said, it would be nice if we could codify that and ban the draft.

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

You are required to sign up but they usually only can enforce it in ways such as applying for a driver’s license or voter registration. Maybe more kids aren’t applying for drivers licenses and therefore aren’t signing up.

piecat ,

I had to apply at the post office. I’m pretty sure there was a penalty if I didn’t, like a fine or jail

ValenThyme ,

if you never sign up you’re excluded from a number of government jobs such as at the post office.

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

That would make sense, I never pay attention but it would make sense why so many applications ask about it

Gimpydude ,

I never registered. I got my draft card while I was in boot camp in the '80s. Never filled it out.

werefreeatlast , to news in House Passes Bill To Automatically Register Young Men for the Draft

Now that everyone is fat and 4 👀👁️👀 eyes, those are not excuses. When I was 18 I was not even close to being fit to serve. I wear glasses and I wasn’t athletic.

So figure out the way guys! Trump had to take bone spurs! I’m sure you guys can come up with something! After all, how can you serve the Chinese overlords with war wounds right?

I mean they could take the Israel approach and exterminate us. Sorry too busy with my Ps7 Nintendo switcharoo. I think that if worse comes to worse I rather go than send my kids. I’ve had an okay life and my arthritis is starting to hurt. I think the Republicans are hard at work on preventing access to arthritis medication probably. So maybe I could just do my thing in China. Right? Defend our way of living. I want my kids to enjoy the freedoms I had. So I would fight for that now that I’m old and fucked up. Then the kids can join in later like the ruzzians did. They basically sent all their old men out to the meat grinder. Sounds bad. But if you got arthritis and you know people who had it, you would ask for the biggest grenade you could carry. I’d take that thing like a football right into a Chinese operations building or something. I mean, if they were evil and such according to the fear mongering politicians and if I indeed had my arthritis going uncontrolled. So far it’s just an elbow and a pinky.

What was the question again? Get off my lawn hooligans!

Cybermonk_Taiji ,

Wow, your brain is absolutely shit.

iopq , to news in House Passes Bill To Automatically Register Young Men for the Draft

Disagree, just make the draft also affect women so it’s not sexist

DadVolante ,
@DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

Good news for you, I guess… this includes making women sign up.

iopq ,

Not what the article said

BaroqueInMind ,

Are you implying we should blindly accept Yahoo News as a reputable source for all information and disregard everything else?

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

Can you find a source that says so? I only find sources that say they are not required

Example: americanbar.org/…/draft-will-should-women-have-du….

PunnyName , to news in House Passes Bill To Automatically Register Young Men for the Draft

Fuck the draft. Dodge the draft.

hardaysknight ,

If you can dodge a draft, you can dodge a ball

todd_bonzalez ,

Frag your CO before they even ship you out.

Copernican , to news in House Passes Bill To Automatically Register Young Men for the Draft

I’m for this. Don’t vote for war mongers when you or your kids or grandkids could be drafted for war.

archomrade ,

Unfortunately there are no non-warmonger candidates in r or d and voting third party is a vote for trump so I guess we’re all fucked amiright

shalafi ,

Registration is already required,and has been for decades. This only automates the thing so people aren’t breaking the law. Super simple stuff.

So I’m not sure what your point is?

Copernican ,

That I’m pro this. That is the point. I can be pro something that is already the law and be pro things that increase the automation of it.

Protoknuckles , to news in House Passes Bill To Automatically Register Young Men for the Draft

Automatic draft, but notvoter registration…

rob_t_firefly ,
@rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world avatar

Just because the politicians want to grab you out of your life and use you as cannon fodder doesn’t mean they want to actually be as accountable to you as they’re supposed to.

Croquette ,

Politicians voting for mandatory draft should be on the frontline. Pieces of shit.

disguy_ovahea ,

Automatic registration for Selective Services, not automatic draft. That’s very different. This is actually helpful in keeping people out of prison or getting fined for not registering.

But yes, this absolutely proves that they could automatically register people to vote with no designated party affiliation.

schnurrito ,

As a European I have always been confused when Americans talk about “voter registration”. The way it works in my country is you are legally required to register your residence with the government and that registration is automatically used to determine a voter registry (just filtering by age, citizenship and exclusion due to criminal convictions all of which is information already known to the government). I always just get a letter a few weeks before elections informing me where my polling place is.

redisdead ,

In France you have to register to vote as well. It takes about a minute and you can do it online or at the town hall

lud ,

Btw it’s insane to exclude people in a supposed democracy based on criminal convictions.

jubilationtcornpone ,

Well you see, in the United States, the way some politicians, specifically ones belonging to a certain very authoritarian political party manage to get elected is by making sure people don’t or can’t vote.

This is often coupled with throwing a huge hissy fit about “voter fraud” which doesn’t actually exist on any remotely meaningful level.

mctoasterson , to news in House Passes Bill To Automatically Register Young Men for the Draft

You’re already legally required to manually register with the selective service if you are male and you turn 18.

Why not just introduce legislation to end that requirement altogether.

TaeKwonDoh ,

Don’t give them ideas.

ShepherdPie ,

AFAIK this is only required if you apply for financial aid for college.

rob_t_firefly ,
@rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world avatar
MindTraveller ,

That’s transphobic. Trans women shouldn’t have to sign up for the draft.

reddithalation ,

yeah, it sucks. heres a good essay on that issue

MindTraveller ,

If I were an American I’d be calling their office and saying I can’t fill out their form, and appearing in court to defend my violation of the law on the grounds that it’s impossible to legally follow. Lying about my sex on a government form would be illegal, and I don’t want to break the law.

lud ,

And sexist.

SeaJ ,

It is required your all males. That said, you will generally only have an issue when applying for financial aid or if you want to work for the federal government.

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

When I applied for a license at 16 back in 2006-esk time(born in 89) it was required to sign up to acquire one. 2 years before being legally allowed to vote

someacnt_ ,

Oh no… war is happening…

queue , to news in House Passes Bill To Automatically Register Young Men for the Draft
@queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

If I am ever drafted (Unlikely due to my shoulder, colorblindness, various mental health things) I will just start saying “I’m going to tell the enemy where my group is and sabotage equipment. I am a liability, you don’t want me there. If you put me with radio, I will shoot that radio. If you put me in cooking, I will spill the beans. If you give me a gun, it’s not going to be used at the enemy.”

Will I? Probably not. But talk is cheap and I don’t think a military group wants someone who publicly stated “I will commit treason and aid the enemy.”

Arbiter ,

Good way to end up in an internment camp under suspicion of sedition.

queue ,
@queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Better than shooting someone in cold blood because “murder is valid because we said it was war time.” I’d rather be in jail than a murderer, I don’t need to add PTSD when my brain is already fucked up.

Arbiter ,

You’re not wrong.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You could just be a conscientious objector…

totallynotaspy ,

Because the military has shown how fond of them they are even when they are truly heroes aka Desmond Doss' story.....

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It sounds like you really don’t want the military to be fond of you anyway. Conscientious objector would be the legal route to ensure you did not go to war.

Everythingispenguins ,

With the “it’s complicated” tag. Not necessarily, there are levels of conscientious objector. It is possible to drafted into a non combat role depending on how you are classified.

queue ,
@queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I am, and they wouldn’t care in a draft. I’m a suicidal weirdo who refuses to harm anyone, I barely have the will power to harm myself, let alone others stuck in similar situations.

I just will say anything to get out of service of a war.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I just will say anything to get out of service of a war.

Apart from “I’m a conscientious objector” apparently. You have that right.

queue ,
@queue@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I’m going to say it. I was trying to be funny on the internet. I apologize.

dohpaz42 ,
@dohpaz42@lemmy.world avatar

It’s better to just tell them you’re suicidal. Not only will they take away any weapons from you, they will usher you out faster than you can blink.

catloaf ,

Unless you’re already in, in which case they’ll put you on a mental health hold for a year or two, in the worst possible conditions, before kicking you out on your ass.

dohpaz42 ,
@dohpaz42@lemmy.world avatar

But if you’re in basic they will get you out fast and not bother with you.

AmidFuror ,

You could just dress up in women's clothes.

themadcodger ,
@themadcodger@kbin.earth avatar

Didn't really work for Corporal Klinger.

Everythingispenguins ,

There is always Leavenworth

JordanZ , to news in House Passes Bill To Automatically Register Young Men for the Draft

It’s unlikely to be picked up by the Democrat-controlled Senate because of numerous amendments regarding abortion, diversity efforts, and transgender medical treatments.

That seems about right. Tired of bills having all this non related crap shoved into them.

Automatic registration would replace the coming-of-age tradition that all 18-year-old male U.S. citizens experience when they get a card in the mail from Uncle Sam informing them that they’re required under threat of criminal penalties to register for the Selective Service.

This ~2 decades ago for me but I have no recollection of this ever happening.

totallynotaspy ,

Idk about your state, but mine basically forces you to register for the selective services to even get a license/learner's permit

§ 46.2-221.1. Registration with Selective Service required for issuance of learner's permits, driver's licenses, commercial driver's licenses, and special identification cards to certain applicants.

A. Every male applicant for a learner's permit, driver's license, commercial driver's license, special identification card, or renewal of any such permit, license, or card who is less than twenty-six years old and is either a citizen of the United States or an immigrant shall, at the time of his application, be registered in compliance with the requirement of section 3 of the Military Selective Service Act, 50 U.S.C. § 3801 et seq

Aviandelight ,
@Aviandelight@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not male but I did register for the draft when I turned 18. I remember doing it on my taxes as weird as that sounds.

ChihuahuaOfDoom , to news in House Passes Bill To Automatically Register Young Men for the Draft

I might catch hate for this but I never understood why it wasn’t automatic the entire time since it’s illegal to not register.

blackluster117 ,
@blackluster117@possumpat.io avatar

Easy way to funnel the lazy into prison labor?

RestrictedAccount ,

That never happened

disguy_ovahea ,

Not any more at least. Prior to this bill, failing to register for Selective Services was a felony punishable by imprisonment for up to five years and/or a fine of not more than $250,000.

Now you’re automatically enrolled. I think it’s actually better this way.

phoneymouse ,

Yeah — seems like they just want to test people

homura1650 ,

Because there has not been a draft since the 70s, where automatic registration was not feasible.

disguy_ovahea ,

Yes, but failure to register was a felony.

shalafi ,

It should be automatic, and it is now. Why did I have to worry about it 40-years ago? Now? Now worries, done deal. Nothing has changed.

Of course lemmy thinks that serving means you’re on the front lines as a grunt with an M4.

MindTraveller ,

Might as well be. Giving a gun to a murderer is as bad as pulling the trigger, and that’s what supply officers do. Mechanics fix killing machines. Cooks feed killers while they’re off killing. The military is a machine, and every cog in that machine is a murderer.

DigitalNirvana , to news in House Passes Bill To Automatically Register Young Men for the Draft
FlyingSquid , to news in House Passes Bill To Automatically Register Young Men for the Draft
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

This will definitely get the kids voting Republican.

GOP 2024: We want you to die.

dhork , to news in House Passes Bill To Automatically Register Young Men for the Draft

Some folks inherit star-spangled eyes

Ooh, they send you down to war, Lord

And when you ask 'em, “How much should we give?”

Ooh, they only answer, “More! More! More!” Yo

DudeImMacGyver , to workreform in The fast-food industry claims the California minimum wage law is costing jobs. Its numbers are fake

Corporations and lying for profit: Name a more iconic duo.

DerArzt ,

Politician lying for profit.

DudeImMacGyver ,

Is there really much of a difference in America anymore?

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