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Daft_ish , to nottheonion in Indiana judge rules tacos, burritos are sandwiches

KANGAROO COURT!

Bahnd ,

We need to bring in experts on this matter. Someone summon Guy Fieri.

Bahnd , to nottheonion in Indiana judge rules tacos, burritos are sandwiches

RADICAL SANDWICH ANARCHY!!!

TOASTER STRUDEL IS A SANDWICH!!!

woelkchen , to nottheonion in Indiana judge rules tacos, burritos are sandwiches
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Sandwich: 🥪 (two disconnected slices of bread cut from a larger loaf 🍞)

Wrap: 🌯 (one continuous flat bread)

Burger: 🍔 (a halved bun, therefore it’s also Chicken Burger, not Chicken Sandwich)

Taco (🌮) feels like belonging broadly in the wrap category being based on flat bread.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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I’m sending the cops over to your house right now.

Fredselfish ,
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It’s worse then that. This all because people didn’t want Mexican restaurant in a strip mall what the fuck is wrong with these people?

reattach ,

Is a sub/hoagie a sandwich? Bread is usually connected.

Oh God, why did I get involved

woelkchen ,
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It’s not two slices of bread from a bigger loaf, so no.

putty ,

those poor sandwich shop owners are all going to go out of business when they hear the news

woelkchen ,
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those poor sandwich shop owners are all going to go out of business when they hear the news

Yeah, with that hard competition by taco stands…

jimbolauski ,

If it is, then a hotdog is a sandwich and that’s just nonsense.

homesnatch ,

No kidding… a hotdog is clearly a taco.

titter ,

But tacos traditionally are more like wraps by your definition, with the exception being hard/crunchy tacos which are on what i would technically call a chip, this making crunchy tacos just portable nachos

Additionally walking tacos are supported by a chip bag, making them neither a taco nor nachos.

woelkchen ,
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Maybe I’m doing injustice here but I’ve always thought of soft tacos as a lazy wrap.

affiliate ,

from a topological perspective, wraps and tacos are two different beasts.

in a wrap, the bread completely surrounds (and encloses) the other ingredients, so theres a 2-dimensional hole involved (which basically means the inside is hollow).

in a taco, no such wholes are present.

you can also distinguish sandwiches from tacos and wraps (since sandwiches involve two pieces of bread, like you said). but unfortunately, you can’t topologically distinguish a burger from a sandwich

NucleusAdumbens ,

Hmm, what of rolls? Ciabatta, Kaiser rolls? Even croissants? By this definition it seems they’d be burgers, since rolls are cut in half. But then my roast beef sandwich is a lying, cold, sad burger

woelkchen , (edited )
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You have weird Ciabattas if you think that Ciabatta is a kind of bun and not a bigger loaf. Croissants are pastry. And yes, burgers made with Kaiser rolls are totally burgers:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7a/a3/1c/7aa31c21b7b0f546ea7ebe4ac0a59b12.jpg

Akareth ,

Hamburgers are a specific style of sandwiches whose name is derived from Hamburg, Germany.

Chicken sandwiches are not hamburgers.

woelkchen ,
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A chicken sandwich is a sandwich when the chicken meat is between two slices of bread cut from a bigger loaf. It’s a chicken burger when it’s between two halves of a bun.

And as you said, hamburger derives from the German city of Hamburg, so Germans, not Americans, have the authority here.🤪

StaySquared , to nottheonion in Indiana judge rules tacos, burritos are sandwiches

Does the Indiana judge know what a Torta is? Does he not realize that there’s… actual sandwiches (there’s like 7-8 different sandwiches). Tacos and burritos are NOT sandwiches.

I’m Latino, not of Mexican origin. However, sometimes I prefer their sandwich over any other dish. And I normally would buy two of them.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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But is a quesadilla a sandwich?

StaySquared ,

Technically it’s a grilled cheese sandwich, right?

But getting into technicalities:

According to Merriam-Webster, a quesadilla is a sandwich if you classify a tortilla as bread. A sandwich is defined as “two or more slices of bread or a split roll having a filling in between” or “one slice of bread covered with food”. A quesadilla is made with a tortilla and cheese, but the tortilla does not contain a leavening agent and therefore cannot be considered bread.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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but the tortilla does not contain a leavening agent and therefore cannot be considered bread.

I have to disagree here. It is unleavened bread.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unleavened_bread

I’m surprised Merriam-Webster doesn’t know that.

StaySquared ,

Nice find!

banana_lama ,

Idk man I consider wraps as sandwiches

StaySquared ,

True. Arabic wraps (chicken shawarma for example) are considered sandwiches.

mhague , to nottheonion in Indiana judge rules tacos, burritos are sandwiches

This makes some sense as all foods are salads; sandwiches are untossed salads, tacos are untossed taco salads.

saladtheory.github.io

dneaves ,

I say there are four categories:

  • “standalones”: anything that is only described as itself. Separation just results in smaller versions of itself.
  • sandwiches: organized or layered arrangements of foods. Can typically be separated into it’s composing parts.
  • salads: tossed or jumbled arrangements of foods. Could be separated into its parts, albeit cumbersome.
  • sauces: perfectly combined or blended arrangements of foods. Can no longer be separated into its composing parts, but differs from a standalone because it was still composed of other foods, and can still be identified or described as all of the parts.
bigbuckalex ,

Does this mean lasagna is a sandwich?

dneaves ,

Correct

PapaStevesy ,

That’s bad taxonomy, because then what’s a taco salad? It’s an untossed taco salad salad. But we still don’t know what taco means. So it’s becomes an untossed untossed taco salad salad salad. Which becomes an untossed untossed untossed taco salad salad salad salad. We never learn what a taco actually is.

XTL ,

It’s like the G in GNU.

PapaStevesy ,

Exactly! I had to look it up, but yes, it is.

BluesF ,

This falls into a common trap. Because we cannot succinctly define a salad in one sentence we decide that it cannot be defined at all. This argument effectively reducto ad absurdums itself by coming to the conclusion that all foods are salad.

If we start from a position where we discount nothing from being a salad, and we have only salads (and soup, seemingly) to base our analysis on, how can we ever identify the boundaries of salad? The whole argument is based on the flawed premise that anything could be a salad.

I realise that I am thinking too hard about this.

AA5B ,

Then what’s a wedge salad? “Ingredients “?

KillingTimeItself , to nottheonion in Indiana judge rules tacos, burritos are sandwiches

this is definitely an indiana activity.

That much i can confirm.

leftzero , to nottheonion in Indiana judge rules tacos, burritos are sandwiches

Preposterous. Burritos are calzone.

slowwooderrunsdeep ,

By that logic, cupcakes can be multiple things depending on how you eat them.

If the cupcake is whole and frosted on top like how they’re normally served, you have toast. But if you rip off the bottom and turn it upside down and place it on the top, it is a sandwich. If you inject the frosting into the middle with a piping bag like an unemployed donut maker, it becomes a calzone.

What I’m saying is cupcakes are valid options for all meals of the day.

leftzero ,

What I’m saying is cupcakes are valid options for all meals of the day.

Exactly! Q.E.D.!

trolololol , to nottheonion in Indiana judge rules tacos, burritos are sandwiches

I read Indiana Jones. That’s all I camr here to say.

Goodbye

Flies away

slowwooderrunsdeep , (edited ) to nottheonion in Indiana judge rules tacos, burritos are sandwiches

Aside from the discussion about whether the taco or burrito constitutes a sandwich, I think the judge made the correct ruling. The retail agreement says no “traditional fast food” can set up shop in that mall, and specifically cites drive thrus and outdoor seating as the reasons.

The strip mall owners probably don’t want businesses taking over common sidewalks or creating more traffic than the shared parking lot can handle. So long as they don’t have those, I don’t see any reason a Mexican food place can’t fit entirely into the leased space.

E: also based on their website this place looks bangin

distantsounds , to nottheonion in Indiana judge rules tacos, burritos are sandwiches
SupraMario ,

Damn straight, if you ordered a sandwich in a restaurant and they brought you a burrito or taco… you’d be really confused and a bit annoyed that you didn’t get what you asked for.

Sam_Bass , to nottheonion in Indiana judge rules tacos, burritos are sandwiches

They might be in indiana

cjoll4 , to nottheonion in Indiana judge rules tacos, burritos are sandwiches
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Most participants in this debate are far too preoccupied with the shape or structure of the sandwich, to the point of neglecting what a sandwich is all about. It’s simple. A sandwich is when you use bread as a handheld base for prepared foods that would otherwise be too messy to eat with your fingers. A tortilla is a flat bread, ergo handheld burritos and soft tacos are sandwiches.

“Then why isn’t pizza an open-faced sandwich?” Because pizza has a crust, not bread. When you take raw dough and bake it along with its toppings or fillings, it may be a pie or a pastry or a pizza or a casserole or some other category I don’t care to quibble over. It’s not a sandwich.

Obviously there are many sub-categories of sandwiches. A dish isn’t necessarily excluded from being a sandwich just because it’s also another type of food.

FlyingSquid OP ,
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Is a tortilla bread or is it a very floppy cracker? We may need adjudication.

cjoll4 ,
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Crackers are crisp and brittle by definition. “Floppy Cracker” is an oxymoron (and potentially a good name for a garage band?).

FlyingSquid OP ,
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I don’t see you wearing black robes or holding a gavel.

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

What about a wizard hat?

FlyingSquid OP ,
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I don’t know, are we judging whether or tacos belong in Griffindor or Hufflepuff?

hobovision ,

Would a tostada then be a floppy cracker fried crisp?

No, crackers are a type of bread. Tostadas are cracker versions of tortillas. Corn tortillas are whole grain flat breads.

Pupusas and tamales are like his pizza example where the masa dough is cooked with its fillings. But those are both types of dumplings, which would make pizza an open-faced dumpling 🤔

Thcdenton , to nottheonion in Indiana judge rules tacos, burritos are sandwiches

Indiana is fuckin stupid

Bruncvik , to nottheonion in Indiana judge rules tacos, burritos are sandwiches
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This tuling was passed due to a contract obligation to open a sandwich store. These cases are ueually related to regulations. Kind of like when an Irish court ruled that Subway subs are cakes, so higher VAT and sugar tax would apply to them. (In all fairness, the sugar content in the Subway “bread” is several times higher than the max allowed for bread.)

SpiceDealer , to nottheonion in Indiana judge rules tacos, burritos are sandwiches
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-Unrest in the Middle East as Israel and Palestine refuse to reconcile

-2 years on, the war in Ukraine has no end in sight

-The climate crisis keeps getting worse

-America debates how to categorize Mexican food

Red_October ,

Turns out the rest of the world doesn’t stop just because some fucked up shit is happening.

Guy_Fieris_Hair ,

I am sure this judge has all the say in those situations.

bluewing ,

You are surprised? We argued over tomatoes being a fruit or vegetable and if they are a vegetable, then ketchup must count as a serving of vegetable. So the argument over tacos and burritos being a sandwich only surprises me in that fact it took so long to argue about it in court.

OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe ,

I mean, this is more about a local business being locked out from developing a new location in an area because that are has specific rules about what can be opened in that area (because Political Money) because for some reason only ships that sell sandwiches are allowed to open up in that region.

We think it’s because Panera or another major shop being buddy buddy with legislators

Mango ,

Also I jerked off this morning. Not nearly so important as war, but definitely nicer.

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