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autotldr Bot , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

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Microsoft has published a new blog post which details how Windows 11 will be made compliant with the Digital Markets Act (DMA) in the European Economic Area (EEA.)

To be compliant, Microsoft has made several changes to the OS, which now allows users to choose between providers and uninstall most in-box apps.

The company describes these changes as specific to Windows 11 PCs in the EEA, so it’s unclear if users outside this area will be able to utilize these functions.

These changes will rollout in preview on Windows 11 in the Insider Beta Channel in the coming weeks, and will become generally available early next year.

The EEA is an economic and political union that spans 27 countries in the European and surrounding area.

In the case of Microsoft, this means not forcing users to use Edge or Bing, and ensuring the OS is interoperable with other services where necessary.


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601error , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act
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Only in Europe. For the rest of us, they will make sure to leave in all the enshittification that Makes Windows Worse Again.

NickwithaC ,
@NickwithaC@lemmy.world avatar

I wonder if you could VPN into the EU and run windows update to get rid of the shit and if it would come back once you closed the connection.

800XL ,

That’s the first thing I thought of too. How awesome would that be to be able to uninstall all that garbage?

That being said, there has to be registry values that are set to flag it in the OS. Friends in the EU need to make a backup of the registry before updating and then check afterwards to see what changed.

Brandon ,

Dude excellent idea. Regshot before and after. It could be something as simple as a user running a registry editing script.

glibg10b ,

The country is chosen while installing Windows. Currently, if you use Windows International, you already lose a bunch of bloatware

Kecessa ,

Pretty sure you can just change your regional settings, I always install selecting English UK and I’ve never seen most of the shit people post on Lemmy.

psychothumbs , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

How do I trick my computer into thinking I’m in Europe?

ForgotAboutDre ,

Better yet, trick your local legislator to get equivalent regulations implemented.

lntl ,

Sign up for this video’s sponsor, NordVPN

OsrsNeedsF2P ,

Obligatory Mullvad > Nord

DigitalBits ,

If it’s how the did the earlier EU versions (no inbuild IE or media player), there’ll be an N version of windows for the EU market.

Honytawk ,

Change your region location.

helenslunch , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Wait what happened with RCS?

smolyeet ,
helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Well that’s unexpected

JonEFive ,

Maybe Apple is learning to implement things themselves before regulators force them to.

helenslunch ,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Why would they do that?

OsrsNeedsF2P ,

Regulators step harder

JonEFive ,

Yup. If regulators make the rules, the rules are gonna be stricter and they’re gonna come with punishments for not complying.

If Apple satisfies regulators enough that the regulators turn their attention somewhere else before putting anything on the books, Apple wins.

Smacks , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act
@Smacks@lemmy.world avatar

Now there will be two versions of Windows. One that adheres to EU regulation, and another that’s filled with ads for everyone else.

Emerald ,
HiddenLayer5 ,

Windows 12 Euro Trash Edition and Windows 12 Red Blooded God Anointed American Edition. If either crosses the EU boarder the computer will explode killing everyone in a 10 meter radius.

Syringe ,

I feel like that might also violate some regulations

clutch ,

Yes, American munitions export controls

Chadus_Maximus ,

Alright. What about Windows 12: European cringe edition?

hushable ,

regulations that stifle innovation baby 😎

Honytawk ,

And the Geneva convention

phoneymouse ,

It’ll be one version, they’ll just force certain “features” on you based on the region you’re in as determined by your system time, GPS location, or IP address

pirat ,

system time, GPS location, or IP address

They can all easily be spoofed or changed.

cyborganism , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

Thank god for Europe!

Rogue ,

god has nothing to do with it

cyborganism ,

You know what I mean. Sheesh.

dubyakay ,

Thank our lizard Queen in heaven.

Rogue ,

I do understand - but as a society we’re working to remove unnecessary gendered terms from our language. I believe in doing similar with religious terms.

Language is important. If we’re thanking a deity for the work of government it’s both minimalising the work of elected representatives and exclusionary to other cultures.

Herbstzeitlose ,

In this moment, you are euphoric.

Aceticon ,

Ramen brother, Ramen!

AWittyUsername , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

I wish Apple would let me uninstall Apple Music and stop media keys opening it by default.

phoneymouse ,

You can delete Apple Music

icedterminal ,

On iOS, when you delete a system app, all you’re doing is removing user data and the configuration files for it.

On Android, when you disable a system app, all you’re doing is removing user data and the configuration files for it.

In both scenarios, the app is still retained. You’ve only removed it from your home screen and anywhere it may appear in actions.

Removing built-in iOS apps won’t free up storage space on your device.

support.apple.com/en-gb/100567

Because the app is still functionally there. This has been the case since Apple introduced the feature in iOS 10.

AWittyUsername ,

On MacOS?

coffee_poops , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

What about RCS?

nixcamic , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

What happened with RCS?

totallynotfbi , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

Wow, are we getting Windows N again?

alphapuggle , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

It does specify the European economic area for (EEA) for these changes. Looks like I’m living in Europe ;)

sunbeam60 ,

Get ready for that sweet € symbol everywhere. I live in Brexitland so I can sort of get by with Ireland as a region, but it’s not great if you’re wishing to see your own decimal separators etc.

Honytawk ,

Your region and your region format are 2 separate things.

You can just change to whatever currency you want while remaining in Europe.

sunbeam60 ,

Ah, learnt something new. That’s awesome. I’ve always wanted to live in Ireland!

psycho_driver , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

EU to the rescue once again.

UnaSolaEstrellaLibre , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

I wonder if this also applies to allow uninstalling Safari browser on MacOS, and allow other browser engines into iOS devices instead of WebKit Safari clones.

M500 ,

I would be so happy if they just let browser extensions work on 3rd party browsers. They already force them to use WebKit. Why are the extensions not working?

michaelnik ,

Yeah! How about allowing uninstallation of Chrome from Android?!

Honytawk ,

Oh god yes, would love that.

And all those dumb bloatware browsers on Samsung devices as well

adam_b , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

Omg, I can’t believe this is happening !!

Today when I updated Windows11, I got copilot and we were discussing how it’s unacceptable to not let me uninstall Microsoft Edge, well I was, Copilot was just chilling it, but it did agree eventually

But this is only happening in Europe, which means Microsoft didn’t suddenly turn pure hearted, it’s just the law forcing them into it …

pete_the_cat ,

Yeah this isn’t as good as it sounds, the other 5 continents are still stuck with all of this garbage.

adam_b ,

If they don’t make it international, they’re asking for piracy

1371113 ,

They’ll just enable/disable features based on geolocation. I doubt it’ll be a whole different version like in the good old days.

adam_b ,

If that’s the case then a determined user could enable these hidden features via Powershell, only time will tell

1371113 ,

Yup, but then you’ll still have the same frustration we have now, running the script every time there’s a feature update and the bloat gets reinstalled. If it wasn’t for games and work I’d be using nothing but macOS and Linux.

adam_b , (edited )

If it wasn’t for games and work I’d be using nothing but macOS and Linux

same , although I don’t play games…

And I’ll never use Apple products, one abuser ( Microsoft ) is enough for me

1371113 ,

I used to be super anti-apple but now buy MacBooks for the longevity. Less ewaste. Over time actually more cost effective. My daily driver is a nearly 9 year old MacBook that I replaced the battery on 2 years ago. Still getting official updates too. My father laid out twice the price of it for a high end XPS machine in 2019 and it died inside 5 years. Apple actually fix manufacturing issues without a huge amount of fuckery like HP/dell. I can’t speak to iPads and iPhones but Macs just last longer so end up being cheaper in the long run.

VinnieFarsheds ,
@VinnieFarsheds@lemmy.world avatar

Skill issue, what’s stopping other countries from creating better laws?

PoolloverNathan ,

The problem is that showing enough politicians money effectively makes you become the government. There’s minimal chance of a law being introduced unless a rich person or corporation backs it, and EU laws would interfere with their shady business practices.

DigitalBits ,

Not big enough to force companies to make large changes. The US is, China and India are. But what about Australia or New Zealand? Or any of the individual south american countries? Too many changes, microsoft or one of the other big players will just pull out of the market, or threaten to pull out.

Honytawk ,

If they already have a version compatible with EU law, they will just roll it out instead of removing an entire country from their market.

Would be a bad business move otherwise.

Of course, only if the laws don’t force even more restrictions.

psud ,

will just pull out of the market, or threaten to pull out.

That would be wonderful. They would no longer be able to enforce their patents in countries they don’t trade in; GNU/Linux users worldwide will have (patent infringing) access to the Australian/NZ version of whatever

It would suck for the games I play that need windows, but it would also give more incentive to those to port them to Linux

pete_the_cat ,

Lobbying, at least here in the US.

Rozz ,

I was going to say, this sounds fantastical in some places.

Appoxo ,
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I got Dev Home on my home rig. Swifly executed the powershell command to uninstall thr sYsTeMs aPp.
Fuck off MS.

adam_b ,

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  • Appoxo ,
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    We don’t need another web based app…Just give us the .deb, .exe, .msi or whatever…

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  • Nommer ,

    No thanks. I don’t need more apps bloating up my browser and slowing it down even more. Plus what if they don’t support my choice of browser? Now we’re back to square one. Just port the programs over to run on the OS. Much less headache that way

    systemglitch ,

    That’s more finger printing to get tracked by, no thanks. I like to keep my browser apps slim and generic as possible to blend in with other privacy concerned people.

    At th same time, I 100% understand why you would find it appealing, and recognize it may very well be a good thing overall.

    PoolloverNathan ,

    Lots of things already have Linux alternatives; I’ve heard people mostly stay on Linux for the anticheat-enabled games that are usually only one developer setting away from Linux compatibility.

    Appoxo ,
    @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Wrappers can be used to do it locally.
    Some Android apps are basically nothing more than a web agent.
    Give me the basics of the web end with a pretty html5 rendered front end locally and done. No need for web apps for which you are required to be online at all times.

    lntl ,

    I can’t think of tasks that can only be done with MS. unless you mean playing specific games, then that could be something

    dvdnet89 ,
    @dvdnet89@lemmy.today avatar

    excel VBA macros is very bad on Linux

    lntl ,

    if you’re stuck on Excel VBA macros and are not open to other options, then you get what you deserve

    Wahots ,
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    Valve only started doing 2-hour refunds after Australia twisted their arm about it. They brought it to the world, and it became an incredible selling point. Perhaps this will be the same thing.

    adam_b ,

    Yeah, I hope so 🤞

    miss_brainfart ,
    @miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

    Valve is a lot more consumer friendly to begin with, though. Don’t get me wrong, they did heaps of bad things too, but compared to Microsoft?

    I’m not gonna hold my breath on this one

    Apollo2323 , to technology in Microsoft will let users uninstall Edge, Bing, and disable ads on Windows 11 as it complies with the Digital Markets Act

    Holy shit I am going back to Windows then!

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