Wasn’t the ruling more or less “try to kill fewer people”? I guess it’s antisemitic to not let Israel kill as many people as they want to for any reason.
It's a shame they don't seem to care about Palestinian lives and Israel is expected to care more than they do. What's baffling to me is that they still enjoy widespread support, nearly three in four Palestinians approve of Hamas and October 7th. Evidently this situation is what they want? If Hamas were deposed and the hostages released, this war could be over tomorrow.
The more Palestinian civilians Hamas throw into the meat-grinder, the more upset Westerners, who no longer understand war nor believe in anything worth fighting for, become.
The more upset they become, the more they pressure their governments to put pressure on Israel.
Eventually, Israel is forced to let Hamas live.
Hamas recover, then unleash even more violence a few years down the line.
I don't think Israel is playing this game the way Hamas and other terrorists expected them to play it. Didn't Hezbollah fighters recently complain that Israel is now sometimes striking without warning them?
I think that Israel is playing the game exactly the way that Iran wants them to. The unreasonable level of violence against civilians is isolating Israel diplomatically and deeply tainting US reputation for relatively little cost.
Netanyahu is playing this game because his survival depends on it. As soon as war ends, he is kicked out and a bunch of judicial processes fall on him that he has been avoiding with his immunity. He has a vested interest in prolonging the conflict.
Hamas has a vested interest in prolonging the conflict too, because it means that they can be “freedom fighters” and “martyrs” instead of terrorists, and assassins, and means a reasonable amount of people flock to them. It also gives them legitimacy compared to the Palestinian Authority
Hamas and Oct 7 has ~72% approval from the Palestinian public, so I guess the destruction of Gaza is what most everyone wants? Baffling.
As for Bibi, his asymmetrical response is not jeopardizing US relations so much as he's jeopardizing Biden's second term. Trump will probably give Israel a blank check and may even want to push the big red missile button himself.
Hamas are not idiots, the response is exactly what they wanted. A whole new generation of resistance is being bombed into existence now and Israel is alienating its closest allies to do it, for Hamas that’s a victory. They expected Israel to kill a bunch of random civilians in a brutal response to their attack, it’s not a surprise for them.
Sure thousands of civilians under our rule died as our human shields from a war we provoked, our critical infrastructure was destroyed because we used it for war, thousands of our soldiers were killed, and we didn't achieve our stated objectives, but future generations are going to be really mad about it so I consider that a total victory.
Yes, Hamas is immoral and does idiotic things from our perspective but it’s a mistake to believe that makes them idiots. They didn’t just stumble into attacking Israel, and they weren’t naive about how Israel would respond.
Yes Israel is supposed to care more about Palestinians than Hamas because Hamas is a terrorist organization an Israel is supposedly not that.
When Israel is literally starving them to death who do you think they will “support”. They literally have no choice. It’s either terrorists or the people killing you.
So Israel gave these stupid terms that anyone with a brain cell would refuse, and the 4 Zainoist here will claim “Hamas doesn’t care about Palestinians life, look they refused a peace deal”
When did Hamas suddenly become the good guys anyways? Both leaderships need to go, but acting like Hamas aren’t a bunch of self interested fucks is just silly
Putting 2 million people in impossible living conditions with restricted water electricity in gaza while continuing to build settlement and giving any jew and Israeli passport to live there while building multiple checkpoint to make it impossible for people in west bank to have freedom of movement and expect no resistance movement to come out is just a stupid statement coming from freedom loving people. While they may not be the best, thinking a peaceful resistance would work ( west bank) is stupid at best.
The proposal comes following Netanyahu's rejection of a Hamas offer that sought an end to the war in return for the release of the remaining hostages.
The Israeli government has offered a new proposal to Hamas that would see a two-month ceasefire in return for the release of Israeli hostages, after rebuffing a Hamas offer.
It is also unknown if any of the over 6,000 Palestinians that have been detained by the Israeli military since 7 October from the occupied West Bank will be included in the deal.
Some 250 hostages were taken during Hamas' attack on Israel on 7 October, with 130 being released during a one-week ceasefire in November.
Families of the Israeli hostages have ramped up calls for their release, with protests occurring outside Netanyahu's house and inside the Israeli Knesset on Sunday.
UN agencies have repeatedly called for a ceasefire for an increase in humanitarian aid into Gaza, as UNRWA reports that 570,000 people face catastrophic hunger in the enclave.
“He further claimed that while Hamas has agreed to a Palestinian state within the 1967 borders in a bid to “establish common ground” [ … ] it will not relinquish its ambition to liberate the entirety of historic “Palestine,” including the territory of the State of Israel.”
Yeah this is how they are going to finally get a state for Palestinians….
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