I guess France’s state position is pro-apartheid and in support of multi-decade ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, then. Which, you know… tell me some thing new :(
The good news is that people in the world, as a whole, seem to be viewing this differently now than in the past. It’s the governments more than anything that are calling for blood. This suggests to me that the next generation of leaders might behave differently.
I’d noticed the same and was pleasantly surprised.
When this all broke out one my first thoughts was whether the post 9/11 experience would provide some balance in the west that would otherwise have been lacking. I feel like that might be true to an extent.
Until the next generation of leaders ends up sharing the same class interests as the old. It’s not an accident that all the western leaders are pro colonial project and pro genocide. Crushing and exploiting the global south is absolutely required for the continued functioning of the western hegemony and the enrichment of its elites.
I really do believe that Gen Z is different, though. People are people and there is a variety of opinion out there, but as a whole, they really feel different to me. They aren’t looking at the world through greedy and materialistic eyes the way previous living generations did.
Even the national public news here is now posting fairly balanced articles and certainly doesn’t toe our government’s “pro israel no matter what” line. I was pleasantly surprised.
Yep, that's exactly the dumb, bullshit claims about antisemitism I was talking about. I can't take any claims of antisemitism seriously when it's really just anti-zionism or basic criticism of the authoritarian nature of Israel or just their inhumane treatment of the legal citizens so illegal settlers can steal their land.
I refuse to accept basic criticism of Israel as antisemitism, because that gives them an intellectually lazy rhetorical dodge to justify committing acts that their forebearers had once claimed 'never again'.
It’s sad that any bad sentiment towards the Zionist regime is getting conflated with antisemitism. You don’t have to hate Jewish people to hate an apartheid state dead-set on ethnic cleansing and genocide.
Similarly, you don’t have to like how Hamas operates to sympathize with their goal of overthrowing said apartheid state.
Antizionism is NOT the same as antisemitism. Anyone that propagates this nonsense is a chimp head. Zionists are not the same as all Jews, and rabbis have often protested against them and this western notion openly.
I wish abusing animals for taste pleasure would carry the same sentence as abusing them for sexual pleasure.
Edit: I wonder how the people downvoting this are rationalising their own animal abuse behaviour in contrast to the animal abuse behaviour of the chicken fucker.
Yes because vegand famously get animals in their homes to kill them 🤡🤡🤡 but go ahead, say PeTa BaD, I know you want to.
Also name a single morally negative thing of letting a species become extinct without murdering them. I will wait. Especially interesting since the animal industry is one of the leading causes of species extinction.
Surely they are also demanding the release of all hostages right? Fucking hostages in the year 2023… surely they also are demanding that Hamas also stop firing rockets right? Right? Especially since those rockets also kill Palestinians RIGHT?
You are implicitly demanding an end to war crimes committed by the palestinian side, but not by the israeli side... that means you are in favor of all war crimes by the israeli side!!!!1!1!1!1!
You see the fallacy and flaw of this very defamatory argument, don't you?
Yup. All those that kill innocent Palestinians, such as the mass killing of Palestinians on the west bank on the first day of the conflict by Israeli settlers, should be punished and jailed. I just like going against the popular sentiment on reddit and redditadjacest sites like lemmy.
What have you done regarding this conflict? Did you join any protest? Did you call for the release of Hamas’s prisoners? Have you done the same amount of effort to call for the end of the massacre of Palestinians?
All the supporters of Palestine that I know absolutely support the return of any hostages, including myself. However we aren’t so one-sided to only demand that of Hamas. We also believe the 5000+ Palestinians held in Israeli prisons and military posts, many of which are illegally held without charges, unable to seek legal advice or see family, some of which are children, ought to be returned as well.
Don’t be blind to what is happening. It isn’t hard information to find.
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