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AceFuzzLord , to news in Conservatives push to declare fetuses as people, with far-reaching consequences.

Would not surprise me if these same people then try to legalize pedophilia if they win just so they can do everything in their power to legally fuck a fetus. I imagine that’s their ultimate goal in life.

BruceTwarzen ,

These people watched a serbian film and thought: newborn porn? Why didn’t i think of that

chemicalprophet , to news in Conservatives push to declare fetuses as people, with far-reaching consequences.

Da dummest of fux.

DLSantini , to news in Conservatives push to declare fetuses as people, with far-reaching consequences.

Pretty soon they’ll be trying to put me in prison for mass-murder every time I jerk off.

Poot ,
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Don’t give them ideas.

Red_October ,

Not a chance, you’re (presumably) Male.

AeonFelis ,

May still be possible. We don’t know what his skin color is.

IphtashuFitz ,

Only if he’s a white, male landowner.

randon31415 , to news in Conservatives push to declare fetuses as people, with far-reaching consequences.

But are fetuses corporations? If a small business incubator fails, is it an abortion?

AeonFelis ,

Yes, and the customers and employees can be charged with murder.

TankovayaDiviziya , to news in Conservatives push to declare fetuses as people, with far-reaching consequences.

It makes me wonder, why are the religious obsess with abortion when the US allows divorce, even though the Bible forbids it? Why not campaign on striking down divorce as well?

booly ,
Facebones ,

They’re also fighting or have recently been fighting minimum marriage age laws in like 12 States.

Blumpkinhead ,

I originally read that as "minimum wage laws"and was confused as to why they were fighting to raise wages, then I reread it and realized, “oh, they just want to fuck kids. That tracks.”

P00ptart ,

And to make sure their wives can’t divorce them for it.

thermal_shock , (edited )

it’s always about control, forcing women to have kids to carry on religion. once they’re an adult, divorce doesn’t matter because they don’t care, you’re an adult. once the baby is born, they couldn’t care less. it’s also about punishment. a man can’t be a whore, but if a woman gets pregnant, especially out of wedlock, she’s a whore and deserves it.

edit: these are not my views at all, this is what is forced on women in America through religion and to a large extent, the Republican party. they’re treated like burdens and baby makers and deserve pain and suffering like eve did in the book of tall tales.

AngryCommieKender ,

The Bible is actually pro-choice. Kinda. It only mentions abortion once. That’s Numbers 5: 11-31. It tells you how to perform an abortion.

Brutticus ,

That is… a stupefying description of what is written. I had to read the torah in primary school. Half a day, every school day, one book per year, (two for Leviticus), in Hebrew. I was confounded. I thought maybe Rabbi had us skip that part.

The part you are referring to is referred to as “Sota” which describes a magical ceremony where in a man would bring his allegedly unfaithful wife before a Beis Din, and she could drink a magic potion, snickeringly referred to as “sota water,” to prove her innocence. The logic goes that if the woman was unfaithful, “these afflictive waters shall enter your innards, causing your belly to swell and your thigh to rupture” . This could be taken mean an abortion, but in my grade school class, we were very giggly, because we thought it meant she would explode.

Further, the potion is described being water, dust from the tabernacle floor, and an invocation written down and dissolved in the water (Number 5: 17, and 23), and is explicitly stated it won’t hurt an innocent woman. (28). This passage does evoke abortion. But it describes a magical ritual that it claims will only cause abortion in unfaithful women, and the potion provided wont cause anyone to abort (although it is gross). Claiming in instructs an abortion is a massive stretch.

FlyingSquid ,
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Doesn’t that mean that the bible condones abortion in the case of infidelity? In which case, shouldn’t Republicans want that to be an exception?

Brutticus ,

It could be interpreted that way… I think? The language it uses refers to seeds.

וְנִזְרֳעָ֥ה זָֽרַע

The situation (infidelity, the graphic imagery of swelling bellies and rupturing thighs) naturally implies abortion, but the ‘Nezre’ah Zerah’ implies the potion will cause barreness.

FlyingSquid ,
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Fair enough. Of course, this is also from the same half of the Bible Christians conveniently ignore when they want bacon for breakfast, so I guess it’s on the moot side of things.

AngryCommieKender ,

The Christ never addressed it, so it “should” be included in the stuff that still applies.

AngryCommieKender ,

Yes, I boiled it down to bare bones, but if you ask almost any Rabbi if abortion is allowed, they will do their typical Rabbi thing of trying to dance around the answer so you answer your own question, but if you try to pin them down, they will say that it isn’t forbidden, but should really only be used if the mother in danger of health complications, like death.

As I understand it, The Talmud or Mishrad goes further into how to prepare butter waters, and there is a root that also goes in there that was well known to facilitate an abortion.

Fedizen ,

because republican donors saw it as a way to create political division after Roe, so they required the churches they donate to to adopt the catholic theology of fetal personhood. This had the double effect of letting evangelicals feel like the state was oppressing their freshly adopted religious belief and persecuting them.

Wirlocke , (edited )

My brother honestly wants to get rid of divorce so that people will “take the commitment more seriously”.

He said this after his fiancee left for another guy. Hilarious at first glance, mortifying when you realize what he actually wanted to happen based on what he said.

Blackmist , to news in Conservatives push to declare fetuses as people, with far-reaching consequences.

Pregnant women votes should be doubled!

damnedfurry ,

I get what you’re going for, but young kids can’t vote, so this doesn’t really work as a joke. :P

bitchkat ,

Couch boy wants to give parents an extra vote for every child they have. Now, he doesn’t say how they are split between the parents so a) probably goes to the father and b) not if the kid has 2 moms or 2 dads.

FlyingSquid ,
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He only has 3 kids. You’d think he would spend less time fucking couches with that attitude.

BlitzoTheOisSilent ,

Ok, then start issuing them social security numbers as soon as they’ve confirmed your pregnant so parents can start applying for and receiving benefits before the child is even born.

Not attacking you, but I hate this fucking argument about fetuses being people: if they’re people at the moment of conception, then they need to be treated as such. Conservatives can’t have it both ways, despite the fact I know in their minds they can.

On an unrelated note: I think it’s time we got rid of “under God” and “In God We Trust” from the pledge of allegiance and all of our currency. We’re not a Christian nation, I don’t believe in a God, and shouldn’t have to handle currency that goes against my lack of religious beliefs.

But half our country wants a Christian-Theocratic-Sharia-Law institution as our government, and I’d prefer they just fuck right off.

damnedfurry ,

Did you intend to reply to me to begin with? 'cause I just made a side comment that’s not related to the actual controversy at all, lol

popemichael , to news in Conservatives push to declare fetuses as people, with far-reaching consequences.
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Meanwhile, the “slippery slope” logical fallacy falls over, down a hill, and dies.

Then starts spinning, creating a perfectly cylindrical hole, and catches fire due to friction, and self cremating.

fukurthumz420 , to news in Conservatives push to declare fetuses as people, with far-reaching consequences.

fuck religion. prove your god is real or stfu. stop letting conservatives have a say in the government of this country. just put your fucking feet down people. stop letting idiots speak.

roguetrick , to news in Conservatives push to declare fetuses as people, with far-reaching consequences.

Pushing to have zygotes and blastocysts as people is fucking worse. That’s as nonsensical as calling sperm people. There’s not even a neural tube for christ sakes. My toenail has as much personhood. This shit isn’t even biblical.

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It would help if our state borders were based on geography, and not just arbitrary straight lines.

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Sad Zamboni noises.

worldwidewave ,

Toxic Zamboni gases

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It’s weird those aren’t electric. Especially since they could easily charge it when it’s not in use.

mercano ,
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They do make electric Zambonis. It’s a newer technology, so a lot of rinks have older internal combustion models that they are unwilling or unable to replace. Zambonis weren’t cheap to begin with, being a specialized piece of equipment, and they’ve been hit by similar inflation issues as the car industry has.

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“The Zamboni repair man can afford it” used to be a joke in my area about going into specialized trade work.

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