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Click here to see the summaryNEW YORK, Aug 14 (Reuters) - A new COVID vaccine is due out next month, but health experts and analysts say it is likely to be coolly received even as hospitalizations from āErisā, a variant of the Omicron form of the coronavirus, rise around the country. Healthcare providers and pharmacies such as CVS Health (CVS.N) will start next month to offer the shot, updated to fight the Omicron version of the virus that has been dominant since last year. They will be fighting declining concern about the virus, as well as fatigue and skepticism about the merits of this vaccine, Kaiser Family Foundation Director of Survey Methodology Ashley Kirzinger said. As with the flu, Pfizer (PFE.N)/BioNTech SE (22UAy.DE), Moderna (MRNA.O) and Novavax (NVAX.O), have created versions of the COVID vaccine to try to match the variant they believe will be circulating this fall. Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious diseases specialist at Vanderbilt University and a liaison to the CDCās Advisory Committee on Immunization practices, said it is possible that the ACIP could make a weaker recommendation for younger, healthier people. Dr. David Boulware, an infectious diseases specialist at the University of Minnesota, said that according to research he has published, people who are boosted have less severe symptoms for a shorter duration.
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Click here to see the summary"The central bank has all the tools to normalise the situation in the near future and ensure that lending rates are reduced to sustainable levels. On Monday, the bank said it saw no financial stability risks from the roubleās weakening and gave another hawkish signal that a rate hike is possible soon. The rouble has chartered a turbulent course since Russia invaded Ukraine, slumping to a record low of 120 against the dollar in March last year before recovering to a more than seven-year high a few months later, supported by capital controls and surging export revenues. āThe weaker rouble is a damning indictment of Russiaās war on Ukraine,ā Timothy Ash, a London-based senior sovereign strategist at BlueBay Asset Management, said in an email. Last week, Russia effectively abandoned its budget rule, with the central bank halting the finance ministryās FX purchases to try and reduce volatility. āThe central bank is not fully in control,ā independent Moscow-based economist Ian Melkumov told Reuters, although it has aggressive tools that it is currently reluctant to use.
Iām 2+1 and just tested positive for COVID yesterday. I had COVID previously in 2021 as well. Symptoms are mild with runny nose, headache, fatigue, and a light cough.
Catching it again has me comparing the environment then and now and made the COVID apathy more apparent. Most co-worker responses have been either āThatās still a thing?ā to āThrow a mask on and come back into the office.ā Iāve elected to isolate to not be responsible for more spread. The frustrating thing is looking for guidance and most articles are dated in 2022. The pharmacy had fewer stock of masks and COVID tests were in the back now.
Iām all for continuing to receive regular vaccinations like I do for the flu. If anything to continue to keep the symptoms mild.
Many of the free COVID tests are all expired now. They issued an extension but finding an at-home test has been really difficult. I went to 3 different pharmacies/grocery stores before I was able to find a test.
Make sure you take time to rest. I had a mild case last December and went back to work in the like 5 days they say. I ended up with long covid and Iām still not all the way better. Not resting is a big risk factor for long covid.
Thanks, appreciate your concern. Iām trying to rest, but unfortunately soundly sleeping has been challenging. My nose is congested but still dripping if that makes sense. My mouth dries out and Iām waking up constantly. Iāll try to get some reprieve beyond the 5 days.
That's good to hear that even though the vaccine is targeting the last big Omicron variant (XBB.1.5) aka Kraken, that its still effective towards the new Eris variant as its similar enough.
Normally Iād agree, but these COVID vaccines put me down for 24-48 hours and the flu shot has never done that. Its very weird and difficult to schedule myself 48 hours of āsick timeā for a vaccine recovery.
Edit: Iād like to clarify that Iāve always gotten them when available, so Iām 3x boosted or whatever, I just wish they had options for people that react like this.
Nope, Iāve never had anything more severe than some malaise for a couple hours that evening. With the moderna shots Iām usually down for 36 hours and on the mend for another 8. the 2nd booster that happened in quick succession gave me a 102 degree fever before i started taking tylenol for it but i consistently run 99-100 even with tylenol dosing.
I have the same mild reaction to COVID and flu vaccines. I feel shit for about eight hours. The only COVID shot that put me down was the second of the two moderna shots. That hit hard. None of the boosters have hit hard.
Yeah that was the same for me, the second one in quick succession hit me, but the following ones that were months (year?) apart didnāt really affect me thankfully. Just an incredibly sore arm for a couple days, but thatās standard for me and shots.
Yeah same. The flu shot usually makes me feel a little bad for a morning. The Covid vaccine makes me feel flat out sick for 24 hours.
I just had a doctors appointment on Friday where they offered me the newest booster and I had to say no because I had full days of work the next 3 days.
Yeah better to plan it out. My wife and I take it on Friday and then we take the Saturday to just be lazy, usually itās conveniently timed to rewatch Star wars
Not sure why youāre getting downvoted. I guess itās because any negativity to the vaccine.
The same thing happened to my wife. It was much less the for the boosters so it will likely get better in the future. I never even really felt bad. A little bit of a headache the first time but Iām not even sure that was related honestly. And Iāve gotten a little bit of a drained-feeling with the flu vaccine.
Each one of the shots made me feel worse than the last (multiple side effects) so I stopped at 3. The one time I got sick with covid was a lot worse than the shots mainly because it lasted for about 10 days, but the intensity was similar to the shotsā side effects. It was after my 3 shots were all completed. Now Iām fine fortunately but I donāt want any more covid shots.
I never actually got sick with covid until I stopped wearing a mask. N95 masks work well against covid and pretty much everything else. If you donāt want to get sick, get some N95 masks and use them wherever itās crowded.
yeah in hindsight i probably should have elaborated more on the perspective of yearning for the dosing or something to get better for people that have severe reactions.
I donāt disagree at all, I should have elaborated in my original comment but I guess I was more yearning for better suited vaccines for people that get hit hard by them. Maybe we could take a smaller dose or different cocktail?
Which one did you take? A lot of people I know who took Moderna got hit hard, but only one person I know who took the Pfizer did. My family all took Pfizer and didnāt have any symptoms besides the usual soreness at the injection site.
Post viral syndromes are phenomena that have been well documented long before COVID. You can find any number of scientific papers on the matter if you only cared to look.
I had it for three weeks and that was long enough, and for a couple of weeks after still I couldnāt enjoy coffee or chocolate or anything with floral flavors. Definitely sucked hard, I canāt imagine having it longer
Last booster with moderna was a half dose. If you had Pfizer it was a full dose. Not sure what the next ones will be but make sure you check and see if there is a half dose option.
I had Covid and other than taking away my taste for a while it didnāt really do much to me. The vaccine is what knocked me out. I had an allergic reaction to it and got a 103Ā°F temp, body aches, and severe flu like symptoms so badly that I had to go to the ER.
Iāll bet thereās not going to be any lines this fall when I go to get this shot. Even by the 4th round during the pandemic I had no trouble making an appointment. Lots of people just decided COVIDās over once they got any number of shots (1 in some cases).
You must live in a low science believer area. When I was near Seattle they were always running out or you have to book a couple weeks in advance. Sometimes walkins are lucky.
Or maybe they live in an area that uses technology for better appointment systems and stock management. Letās not try and assign beliefs to comments that arenāt about it.
I live in a city with LOTS of liberal voters. Even a lot of them just arenāt as concerned about COVID anymore. Folks will get the shot, but a lot will wait until closer to the holidays.
Iām of the opinion that COVID is no longer news worthy beyond the minority it impacts. No different to the flu or various other low risk (to the vast majority) common community transmitted illnesses. It just is now. We donāt get news articles written and publicised at this level for a new flu variant or vaccine, so I donāt see the point for COVID.
Edit: some good discussion in the responses to this. But also some utterly dog shit ad hominem and trying to put words in my mouth. If only they bothered to actually read what I wrote.
Itās not totally random. Iāve noticed it affects self-centered and narcissistic people more frequently, almost like itās one more justification to be a perpetual victim.
You know whatās wild? My alzheimerās patients almost always have the most healthy bodies and rarely complain about pain. Theyāre not overweight. They donāt get CHF. They pass through COVID and other illnesses with mild symptoms.
Your simplified strawman contains a seed of truth.
Oh sweetheart. Unless you account for a heck of a lot of people. Hundreds to thousands isn't a very large sample size when you take into account the amount of people with disabilities there is in the world. And you also have to account for figures of people with undiagnosed disabilities too.
If you look back, the people addressing me have been arguing about why I shouldnāt believe my sources, and theyāre using nothing but degrading insults and authoritarian arguments to try to sway me. My responses have all been appropriate. Nobody has asked for clarification or explanation. They just read my claims and reacted with their own narcissistic responses. I donāt care if you all remain ignorant of the truth.
Allow me to rephrase for people like you. āI am confident in my research and experience, and I have no desire to explain years of work to the willfully ignorant.ā
Does it? You insulted me by calling me willfully ignorant. I didnāt insult you or make it personal at all, so that sounds like it applies to your responses, not mine. And how is insulting me appropriate when you claim all of your responses are appropriate when I did not do you the same discourtesy?
You are willfully ignorant. You only have the very vaguest idea of the dynamic of the mind body interaction I briefly described, and now youāre devoting all of your will to painting me as an antagonist simply because I responded to hostility and ignorance with the same instead of patiently spoon feeding you information that youāll promptly disregard or manipulate to reinforce your existing beliefs of who and what you think youāve encountered.
See, you think I owe it to other people to drag them kicking and screaming to what I know is the truth, and I know thatās pointless. All I can do is communicate with people on the level they project onto me. If you wanted to ask questions and have a constructive conversation, youād have done that from the beginning.
What are you even talking about now? I didnāt say anything about the mind body interaction. I didnāt bring it up or discuss it. How is that me being willfully ignorant?
I meant if you want to talk about ignorance, you seem to be totally ignorant of what Iāve said to you so far since you think it involves something I never even mentioned.
You didnāt say anything about it, correct. I did in the very first post. I know what youāve said so far, and you donāt seem to realize that itās irrelevant because weāre having two different conversations. Youāve been a pedantic and condescending asshole since your arrival, and Iāve been responding. You THINK youāre correcting me, but youāve yet to consider what youāre correcting because youāre arguing more with your assumptions than you are with me.
Why would anti-vaxxers or COVID conspiracists be talking about having Long COVID? Theyāre more likely to represent it as a minor cold, not talking publicly about being disabled by illness.
The original strain, yes. The current COVID is extremely weak and most humans have adapted to it. Itās become a minor cold to the vast majority of the human population.
You canāt just say some bullshit then post a link and think it backs up what youāve said. That paper explores the genetic predisposition to COVID susceptibility and not:
The current COVID is extremely weak and most humans have adapted to it.
Is there like one sentence in that paper youāve latched onto that you think justifies your bad take?
I donāt think you read enough of the report. It goes into showing those genetic markers of that patents of covid. That means that those groups are who should be far more careful than groups without those genetics.
Retrospective cohort study of 196,992 adults after COVID-19 infection in Clalit Health Services members in Israel between March 2020 and January 2021.
Our data suggest that there is no increase in the incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis in COVID-19 recovered patients compared to uninfected matched controls. Further longer-term studies will be needed to estimate the incidence of pericarditis and myocarditis in patients diagnosed with COVID-19.
1.1 million Americans died of Covid, 6.8 million world wide. Today there are still around 300 Americans dying a day of the virus, 90% of those are 65+ in age or older. The number one factor in covid deaths today is being unvaccinated or having other factors that cause covid to be more lethal.
For the majority of the human population this virus poses no issues.
186.7K a year is below unintentional accidents. Slipping on a wet floor is considered a higher risk of death than covid in 2023. That is why people are no longer focused on it and have moved on.
The bulk of āunintentional accidentsā are motor vehicle fatalities, which are actually extremely significant in America. Though I donāt really want to get into whether or not the blood price of not giving a shit about the ongoing pandemic is a bargain, because that seems to be morally reprehensible in any event.
186.7K a year is below unintentional accidents. Slipping on a wet floor is considered a higher risk of death than covid in 2023
Then you post:
Unintentional Fall deaths: 44,686
Which most certainly includes āSlipping on a wet floorā but is like one quarter the number of COVID deaths you yourself just posted!
Youāre obviously upset about COVID and whatever impact it had on your life but posting bullshit just makes you look like an idiot. At least read the things you post, and maybe also try not to completely contradict yourself sentence to sentence.
Immunocompromised people exist at every age. People with asthma exist at every age. And 150k dead per year is not a small number.
I donāt even understand what youāre trying to argue, as if it would be less worth fighting if it only slaughtered the elderly. What a horrible standard and a horrible message to send about the kind of society youād like to live in.
Long covid symptoms are affecting 6% of the entire US population - 1 in 4 who caught covid. One estimate says the cost of long covid to the US economy might be as high as $3.7 trillion.
Just because you don't necessarily die to it any more doesn't mean it "poses no issues".
Only if the 94% are now completely immune to long covid and wouldn't suffer from it if they do get covid in the future. If that's the case, then the risks really are only the tiny chance of dying to it, usually requiring being immunocompromised or unvaccinated. Otherwise there is also always the additional, orders of magnitude higher risk that you get long covid, and with that comes the risk that you might get stuck to your bed not being able to do anything for over a year for example.
Using the numbers from your other comment, for those 45000 deaths by motor vehicle accidents you also have the over 2 million injuries and disabilities that didn't kill anyone, some of them permanent and debilitating. The risk of death is only one number among many.
COVID used up all of my sick time when I had it earlier this year because I was out for a week. It gave me symptoms that are still ongoing. I canāt get a full nightās sleep because I wake up coughing every night. Thatās āreally bad snifflesā to you?
COVID is still a pretty new thing. The whole shit storm was only 3 years ago. Flu has been around for fkn ages now, so it's just a common thing. Where we can predict mutations and how they'll effect people and spread. So it's not really a concern, it's just get your flu jab this year.
Whereas we're still researching COVID and learning about it. The mutations are different with different effects.
Until it hits normality like flu, and predictability like flu, it's good to keep people in the know.
I'm thankful it's still being reported about. As someone with a disability that weakens my immune system, I'm glad to see new vaccines or research into it. I got Omicron, thankfully I'd been vaccinated, cause even with the vaccine it sucked for me. And there was some weird AF symptoms, like the air just smelled like cheese, that one really threw me off. But had I not been vaccinated, who knows just how bad it would have gotten.
And then there's long COVID, we don't get long flu. COVID had an effect on my disability and I've felt worse since getting it.
So it's not just as easy as saying but the flu. They're two different things with different effects and predictability levels and research done into them. So instead of complaining that there's still stuff being written about it, be thankful it's being taken seriously so it can eventually just be a background thing that's akin to flu.
Well, coronaviruses are not new as a whole, lots of things fall under that class, but this particular one and the offshoots are just particularly troublesome. More problematic than the virus itself though is the social shit it stirred up where you have a certain segment that seem intent on actively trying to spread it to others, or at least being completly indifferent to it just to say and claim how tough and right they are about it. Stop coughing and sneezing on people all, it wasnāt acceptable before this covid, still not now.
Hey look, it's one of those "This doesn't affect me, so why should I give a shit?" types! With enough training, they evolve into "Why didn't anyone warn me??!?" types.
We do; I see them every year. Whether I'm travelling or just trying not to be sick (which costs me money since I don't get paid sick leave), knowing what is "out there" is pretty useful information. By the time flu vaccines start rolling out there's usually a round of articles on what the tri/quadvalent covers and the severity anticipated based on worldwide transmissions.
Oh, I donāt agree with that. Thereās no news release for new flu strains or new flu vaccines (thereās new ones every year, you know. Itās not a once a decade thing)
Do you actually believe it doesnāt need to hit āat this levelā because people would be just as informed if it wasnāt? Or do you just not want to see it anymore.
The NHS here is always sending out press releases to the population to remind those that are vulnerable to get their seasonal vaccines (inclusive of flue, and COVID).
There is information out there about new flu mutations and flu shots, but with those applicable going for yearly vaccinations it really is irrelevant.
So, to go back to my original point, which people seem so adamant on willfully misreading so that they can have something to be outraged about, itās not news worthy on the scale these articles want to suggest that they are. There are countless things that change or develop that various different subsections of society need to know about.
if you really truly believe that any information about new flu viruses gets to āthe populationā then iām sorry, you are very very very very very very very wrong.
I know what your original point was, i donāt care. my point was countering it with āwe should have more exposure of health impacting newsā, you just think that itās not needed because you think that the NHS is delivering this information to āthe populationā, which again, is very very very very very very very wrong.
I donāt think you deserve the downvoting. I do think itās semi-newsworthy but youāre right that people really donāt care anymore. We arenāt going to mask back up, most people wonāt get vaccinated, much like the flu, shots are going to be available but just not common. Your overall sentiment is echoing most peoples so I think itās entirely valid despite what the internet justice warriors think
Is their comment editing going on or did you reply to the wrong comment or is my app glitched? The comment you replied to seems to say:
Thatās good to hear that even though the vaccine is targeting the last big Omicron variant (XBB.1.5) aka Kraken, that its still effective towards the new Eris variant as its similar enough.
Which obviously doesnāt make sense for your comment (which I assume was meant to be a reply to an anti-vaxxer or something)
There are people trying to say the same about China but what they fail to get is for the last few decades other countries have been opening factories and simply use China as a distributor.
China now has a failing real estate bubble while America is working to buy their goods less. All it takes is for that distributor role to be lost and China will invade Taiwan and repeat exactly what Russia is doing
I think COVID while horrible, was a perfect wakeup call to companies that the JIT model and having everything made and sourced from China was not a good idea. Itās good to see the decupling from China. Hopefully it will continue and the SEA countries are using the influx of money to their advantage.
If you take Putin seriously he is saying he backs an interest rate hike. As a point of comparison, in Israel they just had an interest rate hike this year, and when people started struggling with loans and mortgages the auth-right government immediately blamed the central bankās monetary policy.
Auth-right governments can never really fail at anything: economic troubles are the fault of the central bank, military troubles ā the fault of the military, and so on. The sort of people who back these governments are very thirsty for this kool-aid, Putin is just meeting the high demand with supply.
Only 25%? The pound dumped to nearly a dollar earlier this year. Itās not just them, all money has been acting up lately. Theyāre lucky not to have it worse given that theyāve destroyed Russiaās long term economics with this war (not to mention centuries of harsh extractive economics and a long historical trend of resisting modernization)
I wouldnāt really use the pound as a comparison for anything - we decided that committing economic suicide and abandoning free trade with our closest trading block was a small price to pay for being able to be mean to poor brown people. The reviews are coming in; would you believe that that was a stupid decision, and weāve a stupid currency thatās not worth as much any more?
The āfunnyā thing is that we could be mean to poor brown people before as most of them arenāt from the EU. Although, now thereās talk about leaving the European human rights agreement so we can be really mean to them.
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