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MehBlah , to lemmyshitpost in Those poor plants

Rogan would know. He has sucking down his own air biscuits so long he thinks they taste great.

snekerpimp , to lemmyshitpost in *He's beginning to believe*

I mean, it’s true…

someguy3 , (edited ) to science_memes in Wacke

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/Greywacke-f-and-l.jpg/990px-Greywacke-f-and-l.jpg

Photomicrographs of feldspathic (L) and lithic ® greywacke. The top images are in plane-polarized light; the bottom images are in cross-polarized light. Cements fill the pore spaces.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Menkaura_Bust_Closeup.jpg

Closeup of Pharaoh Menkaure’s greywacke statue, 25th century BCE, from the Egyptian Museum in Cairo

Yokozuna OP ,

For some reason the images aren’t showing up for me. I’m using Sync on my phone - are these images formatted correctly? If they are I’m gona send a bug report to the dev 🙃

someguy3 ,

Fixed. Had to be more picky on the link.

LarmyOfLone , to lemmyshitpost in America's Smartest Man Finds Something Interesting

Why some of the smartest people can be so very stupid | Psyche Ideas

Basically many people who have the raw processing power or “IQ” to understand and analyse things can still lack certain “mental infrastructure” or education to understand things. This is especially atrocious for narrow minded people who actively rejected new information that doesn’t fit into their mental comfort zone. Musk is definitely one of them.

This is the reason why we can’t have nice things.

UnderpantsWeevil OP ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Musk is definitely one of them.

I’ve yet to see any evidence that Musk is particularly smart. What I’ve mostly seen is his ability to throw big parties and charm investors with bullshit business speak, while riding a wave of lucky bets and state subsidies to billionaire-hood.

LarmyOfLone , (edited )

No he’s not. But he’s also far from dumb.

‘On Stupidity’ (1937). At its heart was the idea that stupidity was not mere ‘dumbness’, not a brute lack of processing power. Dumbness, for Musil, was ‘straightforward’, indeed almost ‘honourable’. Stupidity was something very different and much more dangerous: dangerous precisely because some of the smartest people, the least dumb, were often the most stupid.

Musk is far from genius level but above average intelligence. He does have knowledge about rockets on a non-engineering level which you can see e.g. in this video talking about his starfactory (EDIT: Yes watching him in his element is kinda painful, knowing he’s a fascist)

But he and others like him focus their thinking narrow mindedly on the pursuit of profit. Every decision is based on gaining wealth. THAT is by far the bigger problem.

Besides the focus of all education towards profit seeking, technical nerds also seem to “want to” see other fields like sociology or politics or history in a simple and easy to explain way. So they seek principles or the most simplistic social theories that don’t explain anything real. Musk certainly falls into that.

Except now where he seems to go completely off the rails. Possibly a symptom of narcissism ever since he became unpopular, he’s doubling down to find new validation for his fragile ego. So yeah in that sense he is not the best example.

My point was not just about Musk but about the idea of “finding the smartest people to rule”. Because to anybody who is above intelligence that sounds smart except - stupidity can be more dangerous in intelligent people.

UnderpantsWeevil OP , (edited )
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

but above average intelligence

Maybe once. But that much Ketamine, plus his advanced age and excessive social media exposure, has degraded his ability to process information substantively.

He does have knowledge about rockets on a non-engineering level

He has prepared statements to read to a friendly interviewer. That’s PR, not intelligence.

Besides the focus of all education towards profit seeking, technical nerds also seem to “want to” see other fields like sociology or politics or history in a simple and easy to explain way.

Musk isn’t technical, he’s a finance bro. And while I agree there’s a strong “Education should be about making money” propaganda wave, I’ve noticed a lot of backtracking on this any time some group of labor activists starts passing around the financial reports of the publicly traded company to their coworkers. Then, all of a sudden, the finance bros become obsessed with sociology, politics, and history, at least in so far as they keep shouting and pointing to Venezuela any time someone at the firm mentions the company health care policy.

My point was not just about Musk but about the idea of “finding the smartest people to rule”. Because to anybody who is above intelligence that sounds smart except - stupidity can be more dangerous in intelligent people.

The fixation on “intelligence” as a discrete and quantifiable measure is what bothers me more than anything. I like to look at track records more than hypothetical quantifiers. Even if Elon were a “genius”, I won’t particularly appreciate the pro-eugenics track that brain power has sent him.

But I find it particularly galling when people conflate intelligence and success. So much of the modern economic system is about who you know rather than what you know. Elon Musk had access to enormous amounts of cheap credit, which he used to take a series of highly profitable gambles. He then leveraged his winnings to pull on more cheap credit.

Even setting aside whether that’s “smart” or “stupid”, I would say its a reflection of statistical probability. There are thousands of guys like Elon. Some make it, others don’t. But what defines Elon in the end is simply luck. Recognizing him as exceptionally fortunate, rather than exceptionally smart or savvy, means pealing off the layers of PR and revealing the human underneath.

firadin ,

Musk is definitely one of them.

Musk is a rich trust fund baby whose fortune started off the back of Apartheid. It’s not a shocker that he’s a mask-off racist. He’s done nothing to prove himself a genius, just a skilled grifter and financier.

senkora ,

Great article, thank you for sharing.

intensely_human ,

It’s also important to recognize that smart people can and do fool themselves into believing whatever’s most comfortable to themselves, unless they actively develop the emotional fortitude to face reality.

LarmyOfLone ,

Yeah true. But like @jj4211 write it’s also that confident behavior is rewarded. And narrow minded focus on profit is more efficient than being focused on other things. And they need to compete with others on this “game” who pursue the calculus of power. So humility is a really hard sell to them. And media is not looking at politics or politicians in that way at all.

I sometimes feel this lack of emotional fortitude when thinking about reading a book, because books often break up your worldview and require you to adjust. There is a kind of intellectual pain of disillusionment.

intensely_human ,

And they need to compete with others on this “game” who pursue the calculus of power.

Such compulsions are a function of lacking the kind of emotional fortitude I’m referring to.

Spineless people of poor character “need” to pursue upward movement along the gradient of power.

The philosopher Diogenes was eating bread and lentils for supper. He was seen by the philosopher Aristippus, who lived comfortably by flattering the king. Said Aristippus, “If you learned to be subservient to the king you would not have to live on lentils.”

Said Diogenes, “If you learned to live on lentils, you would not have to be subservient to the king.”

TokenBoomer ,

Once again, it comes down to material conditions.

LarmyOfLone ,

The trouble is that they do need to compete with people who do pursue power (or wealth) relentlessly. So there are hard calculations. Those who don’t play don’t get power and won’t change anything. Those who do want to chance things and want other things than just power are at a (big) disadvantage. Even with the best of intention, the game plays you.

I believe the solution would be something like more rules or systems in place to focus on this kind of pursuit and call it out and dissuade it. Like develop social tools to change the rules of the game. No clue how though. Maybe AGI.

jj4211 ,

I’d say it’s more people who are repeatedly told they are smart can be very stupid.

Many of then might even be “smart”, but the important part is having unwarranted confidence.

Complicating things is that society rewards confidence way more than it rewards competence. If I’m honest about a lack of competence in a certain area but someone else lies during the interview, good chance they are going to get the job over me.

The reality is that everyone can be very very stupid, and so long as each and every one of us is willing to accept and recognize our weakness we aren’t as likely to be assholes.

sxt , to cat in There's a package for you!
ieatmeat OP ,

Love the warning label on the box

Swedneck , to science_memes in Wacke
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man that’s crazy

aaaaace , to lemmyshitpost in *He's beginning to believe*

Whatever you do, don’t go south on I-85!

draneceusrex ,

Meh, you can stop in Durham at least…keepin’ it dirty.

CaliforniaSober , to cat in There's a package for you!

Bjorks “Hunter” keeps playing louder…

TheBat , to insanepeoplefacebook in A sovcit FAFO.
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

Idk why but ‘not for commerce use’ sounds like broken English. Why it isn’t ‘not for commercial use’?

surewhynotlem ,

If you don’t use exactly the right words, the spell is broken. You have to cast it properly for it to work.

Sharkwellington ,

They messed up by not signing it in red pen at a 45 degree angle, that’s how they got em.

thr0w4w4y2 ,

probably didn’t write their name in all caps

thesporkeffect ,
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There’s probably still more …

wjrii ,

As always, I welcome any corrections from those who think they can keep this shit straighter than I can, but the gist as I understand it is this:

Many of them actually believe the entire legal regime of the united states is actually a function of private commercial law and that the “real” government is a sort of suppressed by a corporation that was created under its rules, so if they can successfully opt out of their involuntary commercial relationship with the “Corporation” that they are not bound by its rules, including taxes. Because they’re so very smart, they understand you have to be careful, so making sure that you explain that you’re not engaging in “Commerce” as the corporation’s founding document states is important so they don’t rope you back in. The US Constitution gives the federal government the right to govern “Interstate Commerce” so in the spirit of the law being a series of magical incantations, they want to keep consistent. The various US states are either in league with, or under the thumb of, the “corporation.”

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

the entire legal regime of the united states is actually a function of private commercial law

I mean, they aren’t entirely wrong…

wjrii ,

LOL. I suppose if anything, there’s a hint of unwarranted optimism in their belief that all their frustrations with the modern world are just one confusing layer deep, and all they need to do is scrape the dirt in just the right places and a logically sound and egalitarian utopia will be there for them.

I can retain just a bit of sympathy for people who sort of intuitively, even sub-consciously, realize that it’s bonkers for the richest country in the world to have an utterly inadequate social safety net and for life to be so expensive. The response, though, is not useful or reasonable, and I reckon most of the ones who bother to vote will likely vote in a way that forces the Overton window to the right.

Then there’s the assholes who just want to skip out on child support or debts that they can good god damn well pay due to the benefits they’ve already accrued under the current system.

boonhet ,

Oh you just unlocked a memory for me.

Sovereign Citizens are mostly a US thing, but not entirely. When COVID hit, there was a video floating around of what was essentially an Estonian sovcit. Among other things she claimed that Estonia was actually a corporation registered in the US, etc. And no corporation can tell HER to wear a mask in the grocery store

TheObviousSolution , to insanepeoplefacebook in A sovcit FAFO.
@TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee avatar

See that’s what happens when you go to a country that does not have normalized relations with your sovereign citizen embassy to work out the sovereign citizen agreements and legislation to handle these sort of interactions.

Leate_Wonceslace , to meanwhileongrad in Average tankie calling for the genocide of the working class for being the wrong ethnicity
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Daily reminder that tankies aren’t leftists.

BilboBargains , to askuk in Would it be possible to purchase a puffin crossing panel?

I lived next to the most dangerous puffin crossing in the UK (Whitley, Coventry). This statistic seemed unbelievable at first because the crossing doesn’t look dangerous but over the years I came to believe it. I personally witnessed the aftermath of four accidents and was curious about their origin. The way local people used the crossing was to walk up, press the button and walk across, often without looking at the road. There was a time delay of about a minute and as such the crossing was usually empty by the time the light was red and the cars were waiting for nobody.

Flax_vert ,

Puffin crossings cancel if the pedestrian walks off. You sure it wasn’t a pelican crossing?

Aviandelight , to lemmyshitpost in *He's beginning to believe*
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What a weird point of view in the pic. I can tell this is in the bottom but I can’t figure out which roof this was taken from. Maybe a drone shot?

Shotgun_Alice ,

This was taken from the top of a hill. I would sometimes run by this place on my jog because I liked the view. If you want I can find it on google maps street view.

Edit: Found it, it’s a bit over grown in this image: street view

Aviandelight ,
@Aviandelight@mander.xyz avatar

That’s pretty cool! I’ll have to check this place out.

gedaliyah , to insanepeoplefacebook in Sovcit says the coroner arrests the judge.
@gedaliyah@lemmy.world avatar

No, that would be insane. A coroner can’t arrest a judge. A coroner can only arrest sherrif who refuses to arrest a judge.

It’s called checks and balances.

IphtashuFitz ,

Unless the judge arrests the coroner first.

Olhonestjim , to insanepeoplefacebook in Here's a little something sovcit picked up but hasn't actually tried.

“Evidently” does not mean what they think it means.

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