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noodle , to mildlyinfuriating in Musk is undeniably just trying to run twitter into the ground at this point.
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Almost certainly this isn’t anything to do with scraping. Like with Reddit, those with a stake in Twitter stand to benefit from AI and, as far as I know, there’s no mass reposting (retweeting?) effort to something like Mastodon.

That would be trivial to block anyway, since it would be easy to identity the service accounts and source IP’s of the requests. No need to impact average users.

What’s more likely is he hasn’t paid the bill for his cloud infrastructure and no longer has the capacity to serve so many users.

IMO, that’s what you get when you fire half of your staff.

Stallone ,

I’m not so sure, there are a lot of businesses and people training their AI models right now and sites like reddit or twitter are very attractive huge collections of user generated content. It’s not the most outrageous assumption that they’ll try to get that data for free by scraping instead of paying for API access.

sergih123 ,

I don’t think however, that it is that hard to differentiate an AI scraper between an actual user, since AI scrapers would be scraping huge amounts of data, which the average user doesn’t. Correct me if I’m wrong. wdyt

noodle ,
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No, you’re correct. Service accounts can consume data way faster than a human user ever could. A smart business always implements rate limits or you could bankrupt them with a simple curl command. They could bankrupt themselves in testing with a simple loop!

This can be fixed in many ways, not just by putting limitations on credentials but also on source addresses. If a certain address or range of addresses seems to be running multiple service accounts and pulling huge amounts of data, you can deny requests from those IP’s.

In short, this AI angle smells like BS to save face. Musk effectively fired the SRE team who looked after critical infrastructure. It was their job to ensure service reliability, so it should not be a surprise that Twitter now has issues with service reliability.

billiam0202 ,

They could bankrupt themselves in testing with a simple loop!

You mean exactly like what Twitter did this past weekend?

Veddit ,

But also, hasn’t that boat left already for several AI companies? They’ve already trained it up, no need to scrape again, they just use what they got last time for their core training, it’s only the last couple of years/months they’re missing.

oatscoop ,

IMO, that’s what you get when you fire half of your staff.

And pander to extremists, drive advertisers away, refuse to pay your bills, etc.

Bilbo ,

That would be trivial to block anyway

Is just ridiculously false. If you think it is true, make a service to do this trivial thing for people, and become a millionaire overnight.

noodle ,
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Funnily enough, I do. I’m an SRE myself.

Services like Akamai have tools that are literally designed to block requests from known bad locations and IP ranges.

Ath47 , to futurama in Which upcoming S11 episode are you most excited about?

I’m a bit confused. The new season is 8, but people keep referring to it as 11. Even news articles will put 11 in the title, but will refer to it as 8 in the body of the article. Is this some kind of in-joke I missed? There definitely aren’t seasons 9 or 10…

MeowdyPardner ,
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Season 6 and 7 both have 2 parts which IMDb calls seasons 6/7 and 8/9, causing season 8 to be season 10 on IMDb, while Wikipedia and TVdb have 2 parts season 6 and 7 leading to the new season being 8.

This is the bane of my Plex organizing existence. Though luckily in this case Plex metadata and torrents agree on having 2 part season 6 and 7.

DontTreadOnBigfoot , to futurama in Which upcoming S11 episode are you most excited about?
@DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world avatar

The Impossible Stream is definitely catching my attention, just because I’m a huge Don Quixote fan

When’s the premiere anyway?

TWeaK ,

24 July

Spitfire , to aww in Derek the Danger Noodle
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Too cute to be dangerous.

Villkat ,

The danger is in the cuteness. It’s dangerously cute.

Kovpak , to mildlyinfuriating in Musk is undeniably just trying to run twitter into the ground at this point.

Test comment, sorry

smegforbrains , to piracy in 'sup Netfux

That’s why sports channels are much more expensive than everything else. It’s harder to pirate live sports events. FKN corpos made it impossible for my parents to watch Wimbledon.

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Fantomas ,

Adblock is mandatory

whenigrowup356 , to mildlyinfuriating in Musk is undeniably just trying to run twitter into the ground at this point.

Assuming said data scraping is a real concern for both Twitter and Reddit, are Fediverse servers at similar risk from scrapers and various automated API hits? I don’t really know enough about networks to answer.

vinzen ,

I think the data scraping problem is more of an opportunity cost (they think AIs should pay them more to use their content) than a concern for the traffic they account for. If traffic, and not profit, was a problem, Wikipedia would start saying they can’t support AIs either.

bluueberry ,

You make a great point about Wikipedia - it’s laughable to me that scraping is actually why Twitter is doing this. They’re just trying to find a convenient reason for why they’re failing that doesn’t stem from their own incompetence.

fubo ,

The idea that “AI scraping” is any more expensive than search engine indexing is flatly nonsense, only credible to people who have never run any network service at scale.

Folks need to learn about Common Crawl. commoncrawl.org

xuxebiko , to aww in Who could say no to this eyes?

To that cutie? No one with a heart.

evilgiraffe666 , to aww in Meet Nutella!

The colour looks more like biscoff, or dulce di leche.

dill , to piracy in 'sup Netfux
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Finally got kicked off a Netflix account yesterday actually.

https://lemmy.one/pictrs/image/666627ac-6138-4404-9f94-4e35a6d38c63.jpeg

outrageousmatter ,
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Man, one thing I wonder is how the stock keep going up, when users are leaving because of password sharing no longer possible.

animist ,

Because most investors are MBAs and MBAs have fewer braincells than an amoeba

atlasraven31 ,

Stock prices and the financial sector as a whole does not reflect reality.

xuxebiko , to aww in Derek the Danger Noodle

ahem, that's "Derek, the cutest danger noodle".

henfredemars , to pics in Overlook near Pagosa Springs, CO

As someone who has lived in the plains all his life, the idea of hills being a real thing that actually exists outside of movies seems strange.

Absolutely magical!

kobra ,

Go see mountains, they’re breathtaking!

hydrashok ,

Agreed. Pictures are great, but being there and really understanding the scale is mind-blowing!

KD_14 , to mildlyinfuriating in Musk is undeniably just trying to run twitter into the ground at this point.

The limits are so low as well. Imagine paying for Twitter blue and getting rate limited still.

0Xero0 , to android in Boost for Lemmy is happening!
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first Sync, now Boost? Let’s funking go!!!

briongloid ,
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This is Lemmy now, you can swear if its not targeted

0Xero0 ,
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I know, but I find it more fun this way

MaxMouseOCX ,

Not targeted? Can’t I randomly just tell you to go F yourself and it’d be fine?

JadenSmith ,

I believe you have to supply lubricant.

To keep things friendly and all.

thesanewriter , to pics in Emerald lake, Rocky Mountian National Park
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That looks stellar, I hope that I’ll be able to visit someday.

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